GrowRijt
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Same. They seem to get woody and sorta stubborn. They go eventually.
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HydroRed
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I still clone, just when it comes to the ones that are more "stubborn" like the Glue I'll do a few extra of that strain and give myself some extra time before they are scheduled to go into the flood trays knowing they will root....eventually.
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I get roots, just not as fast as I'd like. I have hit my pinnacle at 14 days with the glue and she just wont give em up any quicker. I've done cuts from the bottom, the top, large cuts, single node cuts, rockwool, root riot plugs, bubble cloner, high climate,low climate, clone gel, water only........14 days.
whytewidow
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Man that makes me so bummed about the one I threw in flower. I'm rooting a clone I pulled from it. Before I tossed it. I think as soon as it revegges and throw a shoot long enough that's regular looking I'll clip it root it. And flip it. Be a little more prepared for the ungodly stretch. I've run 16 week sativas that didnt stretch like that thing. I def wasnt prepared for it. But that's the awesome thing about the plant. Jus chop dip n stick and do it again. Nvr lose the strain. Even if you fuck up like I did. Lol but that looks beautiful amigo
40AmpstoFreedom
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Good fucking move cloning it man. I can't wait to get my next round started will have 20 of these to make a choice from. I am tempted to pop all the ones I have but I think given the quality it will be too hard to make good choices running so many at once as it really doesn't throw a lot of phenos.
whytewidow
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The pheno I have I let it go to like 30 days. It was beautiful had a great nose on her. Sticky as hell. I jus didnt do my research on it. I nvr dreamed it would stretch more than 5 feet. I should've topped but I jus like to give first runs natural bc If they aren't good I don't like wasting the extra veg time with topping n training. Its def gonna be worth running again. But i keep her short and bent over.
thenotsoesoteric
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I'll be running the clone of lvtk again for sure. Even this early in flower I can tell she'll be some good smoke.
I feel bad for the cats that grew the lvtk and got fluffy buds because I'm fairly sure my pheno will not have that issue. She's lanky but hitting all the right spots in my opinion.
I feel bad for the cats that grew the lvtk and got fluffy buds because I'm fairly sure my pheno will not have that issue. She's lanky but hitting all the right spots in my opinion.
thenotsoesoteric
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The lvtk pheno you had reminds me of my pheno of pineapple chunk. I'm over here thinking the pineapple chunk was supposed to be indica and a 60 day flower, my pheno ended up being a 6 ft tall Christmas tree sativa, lol. She went like 90 days before I chopped her and she still needed weeks more.
She out grew the tent as well so I had to move her in the basement just under a spare 400w hps. If not for the basement space I would have had to chop her like you did, probably should have though cuz the bud was mediocre.
Tangerine_
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I missed your pic in the sea of LED/HPS posts but that is coming along nicely.
You're really makin that LVTK shine!
whytewidow
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And as far as trich production goes with leds. There is no question on my end trich production with DIY leds over HPS has went up 10-15% more. Including denser lowers as you said. Which also as you said increases yield. I dont normally take pics of this tent. As they are my own strains. That I've made. I normally dont share with the world. But jus to show trichs with dialed in leds.
First pic is 23 days in. The trichs have trichs. It's original 1995 OG Kush. Yes the beans were 23 years old. But I reversed her the 2nd pic of the two colas leaning beside each other. And crossed her to a mimosa male that was jus smelling super sticky and beautiful.
I call her Mimosa OG lol. Real original right, but leds increase trich production no doubt about it.
First pic is 23 days in. The trichs have trichs. It's original 1995 OG Kush. Yes the beans were 23 years old. But I reversed her the 2nd pic of the two colas leaning beside each other. And crossed her to a mimosa male that was jus smelling super sticky and beautiful.
I call her Mimosa OG lol. Real original right, but leds increase trich production no doubt about it.
Jp.the.pope
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I set my driver's seasonally to keep the room around 83-85 during lights on. I like the auto dim idea based on temp. Maybe a raspberry pi or something....
Yodaweed
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Have you ever tried CMH lighting tho? You could get up to an additional 30% THC, with additional UV supplementation, your plants look great no doubt but there's always room for improvement.
Yodaweed
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It's already been done, in colorado big pharma owns the dispensaries, the little guy is pretty much a criminal once again due to legalization and how the laws have crippled home growers / care givers. They don't even allow extended plant counts where i live, the local legislature doesn't recognize your plant count here 12 plant max per residence no matter what. Legalization is just a way to kill the competition for these mega dispensaries , their owners/growers usually don't even smoke weed or ever have they are only in it for the money, they take cash cropping to a whole nother level, they spray all kinds of nasty shit on their product because they get powdery mildew super bad so they are spraying citric acid, acedic acid and green cure like mad. Some places get caught using nasties like eagle20 and other gross shit there's barely any inspections so they get away with it usually.
40AmpstoFreedom
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Not trying to be a dick but man you are captain obvious on a lot of shit. I know, they do this with every fuckin product...My point was when a home grower can plug 3 lights in that cover a 4' x 12' foot print into 1 20 amp outlet they can fuck over their whole game. LED gives the power back to the mom and pop and personal grower regardless of legality.
Are you fuckin serious right here? CMH gives 30% more THC? Do you work for high times or some other bullshit?
Top ten most retarded things I have ever heard.
Yodaweed
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problem is they are limiting the amount you can grow and trying to make you go to the dispensary, i learned to grow big huge monster plants due to the legal plant limit, but some of my friends that aren't quite as experienced growers as me have kinda gotten screwed over by these plant count limits. It should be a square foot requirement not a plant count, plant count is stupid as hell, my bro grows plants that yield 1-2 oz max when i\m getting 6-12 oz per plant sometimes more. There's even some people that have been busted for being just slightly over their plant count, law comes down on them hard too, gotta stay in check.
Basically legalization is a big sham, they set up the laws to completely favor the dispensaries, honestly i think their next step is just to make home growing illegal, they are already outlawing hid lighting in some counties here seems like they don't want us yielding jack shit.
40AmpstoFreedom
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Yodaweed
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UV light will up THC production by up to 30%
https://www.blackdogled.com/blogwhich-is-better-uva-or-uvb/
https://hightimes.com/grow/grow-hack-does-uv-light-increase-cannabis-potency/
http://www.solacure.com/exuvandca.html
Using proper UV can cost you $5 to $10 per plant when you average out the cost of lights and fixtures. It is very cheap. Most people are able to get increases of 20% THC the first time they use it. Most experienced growers are getting over 30% more THC than with clones that aren't getting UV. These aren't guesses, our dispensory and grower customers report back to us with actual lab results, using actual control growing methods. Anyone who tells you they didn't get more THC is probably using a reptile light or some similar underpowered UV source. Just as you can't use regular screw in light bulbs to grow robust plants, you can't expect high THC returns with weak UV sources. Ironically, the bad UV lights cost about the same as the good ones, it is just a matter of using the right lamps, the right way. And it is pretty easy IF you know how. With our standard 4 foot bulbs (Universal UV and the SG-1-40) you will use four bulbs for every 1000w (or equivalent) hood you have. Newer lamps such as those in the Flower Power series cut that in half, so you only need two lamps per hood. This means lower operating costs, even if the lamps are a little more expensive.
This is the main reason CMH lighting crushes LEDs , the UV they produce and the quality of spectrum honestly makes for some of the frostyest indoor plants
40AmpstoFreedom
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So whats 20% of 20% lol? That is being generous...
Yodaweed
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4%, 20% of 30% is 6%, and 30% of 30% is 9%, so there's huge gains possible if you supplement LEDs,
40AmpstoFreedom
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Okay so tell me the last time you smoked shit blind tested that you could tell the difference between that. It is fuckin marketing. Is there a possible gain, yes, but get real now man.
Yodaweed
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It has been studied by numerous different scientific studies it is proven. It's not a marketing gimmick or all the LED manufacturers would use it and most don't even disclose that UV light produces more frost because LEDs don't have UV.