i'm not trying to cut gu down, i'm really not- i'm just saying there are two sides, and there is a reason why there is so much controversy with gu/gps. i know one could argue that jj did the same thing with chemdog, but chemdog wasn't putting out seeds- jj worked hard to get it where it is, and in the process created something of his own- gu has shown little effort in building his empire- he took a stardawg male, copied other established strains, and hits clones. he hasn't earned the same respect. i get the medicine thing, and i agree that no-one owns a plant- gu has opened it up to everybody, and i appreciate that... i'm fine with using clones from dispensaries, and i'm fine with the "Walmart" type vibe others have mentioned... i think he produces quality seeds, and i am actually a diamond member on gps, and recommend it to others- but i don't think he is a serious breeder... i don't think he would be where he is now without the dedication of others, and i completely understand why people think he's sort of a cheat. again, i'm not trying to cut him or his business down at all, even though i'm sure it sounds that way... and from the limited conversations I've had with him, i truly believe he wants to be the best, and give the best- and i think he genuinely want to make everybody happy, including jj- i just think he could try a little harder to make it his- others do, he should too... if you want to be the best, then you have to be the best... not a bootleg