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growslut

growslut

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I think you guys are both right. Once pm infects a plant its systematic

But even if the plant is affected, if you control the environment like Chunky says, the pm will not manifest

When harvesting any plants that have been exposed to WPM, I pick and toss any affected leaves. And if the pm has got to the sugar leaves, then I will throw away that entire bud.

Reddit has a thread with some info about WPM right now. (https://old.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/9khriu/golovinomyces_cichoracearum_the_life_cycle_of_a/) Says the spores can travel 120 miles
 
Thegermling

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Chunky Stool said:
Fix the root cause and the problem goes away for good.
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What is the root cause? Humidity? Ive only had PM on about two plants. From what ive read its poor air circulation, water getting trapped in between leaves (stagnating water is a good cause of PM), bringing in infected clones. I think im forgetting some.
 
SSGrower

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PM omnipresent, but viable propigation is environmentally dependant and based on an individual plants succeptibility. Different genus plant respond differently, one reason for grafting succeptibile plant species to resistant root stock.
 
SSGrower

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Thegermling said:
What is the root cause? Humidity? Ive only had PM on about two plants. From what ive read its poor air circulation, water getting trapped in between leaves (stagnating water is a good cause of PM), bringing in infected clones. I think im forgetting some.
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Cool temps or more accurately a rapid shift from cool to warm to cool...can have a negativery impact. This shifts RH drastically, why it is present in "dry" areas like CO.
 
Chunky Stool

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Plants definitely respond differently to PM and bud rot (botrytis?)
I figure both are always around outdoors, but some plants deal with it better than others.
Some plants never show signs of infection. They seem totally immune.
Other plants have infections but manage to reject the infected tissue before it spreads, thus keeping it localized and controlled.

Then there are plants where the shit runs rampant and fucks everything up -- fast!
Not sure why it happens, but those plants are usually a total loss.
 
growslut

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Thegermling said:
What is the root cause? Humidity? Ive only had PM on about two plants. From what ive read its poor air circulation, water getting trapped in between leaves (stagnating water is a good cause of PM), bringing in infected clones. I think im forgetting some.
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I think the root cause is the actual spores. But, again like Chunky says, the spores are probably everywhere.

So if a spore lands, and the environment is not hospitable, then the spore will never grow. But if the conditions are right, the spores will grow into wpm.

I recall reading that WPM enjoys big fluctuations in humidity and temperature. And poor air circulation. I had some in my tent earlier this year, and after fixing the airflow--in part thanks to Chunky's advice at the time--the wpm has not shown up again since.
 
Thegermling

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growslut said:
I think the root cause is the actual spores. But, again like Chunky says, the spores are probably everywhere.

So if a spore lands, and the environment is not hospitable, then the spore will never grow. But if the conditions are right, the spores will grow into wpm.

I recall reading that WPM enjoys big fluctuations in humidity and temperature. And poor air circulation. I had some in my tent earlier this year, and after fixing the airflow--in part thanks to Chunky's advice at the time--the wpm has not shown up again since.
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I tried finding the episode where I heard about the pm being systemic but I cant find it know. While looking for info I found that its also not systemic. Im getting confused because I think I might have gotten the pm part wrong. I need to look into this more but tomorrow, bout to watch a movie and chill.
@Chunky Stool Theirs a guy on IC mag by the name of DJM (Don Juan Matus) he grows in tropical like weather and he believes that PM isnt a result of high humidity its a result of lack of air circulation. He grows in 86f and 60-75 humidity all throughout the grow (he claims). His pics are very convincing.
 
Philip-O

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Thegermling said:
I tried finding the episode where I heard about the pm being systemic but I cant find it know. While looking for info I found that its also not systemic. Im getting confused because I think I might have gotten the pm part wrong. I need to look into this more but tomorrow, bout to watch a movie and chill.
@Chunky Stool Theirs a guy on IC mag by the name of DJM (Don Juan Matus) he grows in tropical like weather and he believes that PM isnt a result of high humidity its a result of lack of air circulation. He grows in 86f and 60-75 humidity all throughout the grow (he claims). His pics are very convincing.
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I'm running about 12-15 girls in flower, on a tropical setting, with humidity between 45-75% most of the time, has been up to 90% after some rainy days, but there is breeze now and then and good airflow, not one plant with PM or bud rot issues. A Peyote Purple, however, is not feeling so hot, and the lower branches have begun to dry and die.
 
thenotsoesoteric

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These two girls are my longer flower times so far, both are at 65 days 12/12 and trichs are just starting to cloud up and will need another few days at least. These 2 girls also smell quite nice with the tang pow #1 being queen in the strong terps dept. TP#1 is a crisper more zest smelling orange tropical punch smell like when grown in the tupur but nicer and the citrus twist #1 is the closest strawberry smelling plant I've had. She smells like those generic strawberry hard candies.
TP #1
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CT #1
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EDIT: I'm stoned, go figure, but this was meant for Chucker's paradise thread...
 
Greenthumbs256

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DAY ZERO!!!! COOKIES AND CHEM!!!!
so I've seen some amazing grows with this strain so I couldn't help popping a pack myself!

I've decided to try a different method that I heard someone talking about! Instead of starting in solo cups(bc I'm rols and organic i seem to lack nutrients very soon in the veg) I have started them in much bigger pots! I plan to see if it makes any difference! Really excited for this grow!!!CM181006-021359001.jpg
 
quiescent

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Greenthumbs256 said:
DAY ZERO!!!! COOKIES AND CHEM!!!!
so I've seen some amazing grows with this strain so I couldn't help popping a pack myself!

I've decided to try a different method that I heard someone talking about! Instead of starting in solo cups(bc I'm rols and organic i seem to lack nutrients very soon in the veg) I have started them in much bigger pots! I plan to see if it makes any difference! Really excited for this grow!!!View attachment 4211184
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The key with organics (every method benefits but it's a bigger deal in organics) is up potting at the correct time in veg. The speed of growth you can get with organics can be just about as good as hydro if you're doing it right. Especially if you're running blumats or a sip set up in their final pots.

Once you can ease the rootmass out when dry from say your beer cup put it in a 1 gallon. In ~2 weeks put it in a 3-5 gallon. In another 1-3 weeks put it in flower or if you're still gonna be vegging at 2-3 up it to a 7-10+ gallon. Basically once the roots are established and the growth up top is sucking the medium dry in a couple days it's time to up pot.
 
hillbill

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mistermagoo said:
Jelly pies 48 days of flower

Ran this one pretty much from clone, gave it a week from bubble clone to hempy bucket then flipped it, doing great , only under 200w COBS this 3x3 is very efficient and let’s me test other strains before throwing them in the 4x4 with 500w cobs

Has a different look in this tent with slightly cooler temps than the last pies I’ve posted, used more cal mag this time around, under 3500k COB spectrum only

The other pies I posted were in a mixed spectrum but primarily under the 1700k, the red seems to bring out a bit more color... or the temps, 5 degree difference higher (in the 4x4)

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So what is your overall impressionf 1700k?
 
Tangerine_

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Greenthumbs256 said:
DAY ZERO!!!! COOKIES AND CHEM!!!!
so I've seen some amazing grows with this strain so I couldn't help popping a pack myself!

I've decided to try a different method that I heard someone talking about! Instead of starting in solo cups(bc I'm rols and organic i seem to lack nutrients very soon in the veg) I have started them in much bigger pots! I plan to see if it makes any difference! Really excited for this grow!!!View attachment 4211184
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I'm right there with ya. My CnCs popped above soil about a wk ago. First half the pack gave me all males so the odds are in my favor for girls...hopefully.
 
Greenthumbs256

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quiescent said:
The key with organics (every method benefits but it's a bigger deal in organics) is up potting at the correct time in veg. The speed of growth you can get with organics can be just about as good as hydro if you're doing it right. Especially if you're running blumats or a sip set up in their final pots.

Once you can ease the rootmass out when dry from say your beer cup put it in a 1 gallon. In ~2 weeks put it in a 3-5 gallon. In another 1-3 weeks put it in flower or if you're still gonna be vegging at 2-3 up it to a 7-10+ gallon. Basically once the roots are established and the growth up top is sucking the medium dry in a couple days it's time to up pot.
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I have always started in solo cups! But before it's time to transplant the plants seem to starve towards the end so I started in what I think is half g pots! Their still really small but I'd say holds about twice the amount as a solo cup maybe a tad more! It's more of an experiment than anything! But honestly I don't think I'll notice to much of a difference!
 
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