Greenpoint seeds!!

Werp

Werp

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Ultimately I would like to pop a ten pack of seeds and not be able to tell the difference between plants and have people ask me if they're clones. Maybe not realistic but that would be the true gold standard that the pinnacle of stability has been attained
 
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mistermagoo

mistermagoo

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You’re really talking uniformity opposed to stable.

Stable to me refers to characteristics like hermie probabilities.

I’m not so literate in breeding terminology but your looking for uniformity in plants , that’s just different fillial generations I believe, as you work up to f2 3 and 4 , you get more uniformity in that strain

I think you are just looking for more uniform beans and i don’t believe f1 are made for that, and I also thought that was the plus for people who wanted to do a wide pheno search.

Am I wrong or on the right path there? Someone more knowledgeable will chime in. My terminology with filial generations may be wrong

But I still say you are looking for more uniformity as opposed to stability
 
mistermagoo

mistermagoo

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I also see great uniformity in fem breeders who know what they are doing

Mass medical star pupil all 5 very similar structure color and potency , small variances very subtle, but that’s an S1 from a really worked line

Everything fem I popped earlier 2000s from the well known Dutch breeders were always pretty uniform
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Uniformity and stability are 2 different things.what dude is talking about is IBL shit.
I'm not even looking for IBL.F1s are great because u get some variety to pick a winner from.25 percent mom 25 dad and the other 50 can go towards grandparents and such.
The issue is when plants are nothing like the mothers whatsoever.i have popped plenty of rare D and others and truthfully there are variation but you would always get that 1 that just jumped out at u.i have never really experienced that with anything GP.
Good breeders will test 2 strains and see the outcome.some shit just will not go good together.and some are like magic.pop 12 seeds and be hard to pick 1.
It's obvious people are looking for specific traits when they buy a pack of seeds with names on the pack.im not gonna buy a pack of dream catcher looking for gg4 leaners but when tomahawk looks more like all blue dream than that's an issue.
Most breeders that are actually using legit clones and a decent pollen donor are putting out nice gear.the bottom line is testing a good run of these crosses and seeing if they stack up.
If a breeder runs 12 to 24 seeds from a cross and dont find anything worth having those should be discontinued immediately.
Popping 100 seeds to find a keeper is bullshit
Popping a pack to find a couple females is also bullshit.
 
SSGrower

SSGrower

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quiescent said:
If anyone's interested I have 2 packs of hickok haze and 1 pack of tomahawk for free, gratis, gratuit or nada. They have been opened (I check out every pack I get upon receipt) but are full packs. I don't see myself growing these out so if you or someone you know would like them shoot me a message.

Gone but more coming.
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@blowincherrypie ?
 
mistermagoo

mistermagoo

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Heisengrow said:
Uniformity and stability are 2 different things.what dude is talking about is IBL shit.
I'm not even looking for IBL.F1s are great because u get some variety to pick a winner from.25 percent mom 25 dad and the other 50 can go towards grandparents and such.
The issue is when plants are nothing like the mothers whatsoever.i have popped plenty of rare D and others and truthfully there are variation but you would always get that 1 that just jumped out at u.i have never really experienced that with anything GP.
Good breeders will test 2 strains and see the outcome.some shit just will not go good together.and some are like magic.pop 12 seeds and be hard to pick 1.
It's obvious people are looking for specific traits when they buy a pack of seeds with names on the pack.im not gonna buy a pack of dream catcher looking for gg4 leaners but when tomahawk looks more like all blue dream than that's an issue.
Most breeders that are actually using legit clones and a decent pollen donor are putting out nice gear.the bottom line is testing a good run of these crosses and seeing if they stack up.
If a breeder runs 12 to 24 seeds from a cross and dont find anything worth having those should be discontinued immediately.
Popping 100 seeds to find a keeper is bullshit
Popping a pack to find a couple females is also bullshit.
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No doubt I agree with you on every point

Only qualm I have is with popping a ten pack, should produce a keeper pheno. Not talking elite amazing one in a million, but In a ten pack of advertised good parents, you should be able to find a keeper per ten pack
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Heisengrow said:
Uniformity and stability are 2 different things.what dude is talking about is IBL shit.
I'm not even looking for IBL.F1s are great because u get some variety to pick a winner from.25 percent mom 25 dad and the other 50 can go towards grandparents and such.
The issue is when plants are nothing like the mothers whatsoever.i have popped plenty of rare D and others and truthfully there are variation but you would always get that 1 that just jumped out at u.i have never really experienced that with anything GP.
Good breeders will test 2 strains and see the outcome.some shit just will not go good together.and some are like magic.pop 12 seeds and be hard to pick 1.
It's obvious people are looking for specific traits when they buy a pack of seeds with names on the pack.im not gonna buy a pack of dream catcher looking for gg4 leaners but when tomahawk looks more like all blue dream than that's an issue.
Most breeders that are actually using legit clones and a decent pollen donor are putting out nice gear.the bottom line is testing a good run of these crosses and seeing if they stack up.
If a breeder runs 12 to 24 seeds from a cross and dont find anything worth having those should be discontinued immediately.
Popping 100 seeds to find a keeper is bullshit
Popping a pack to find a couple females is also bullshit.
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I agree with a lot of this, if you run 2 packs you should find something decent, if you don't imo it should be cut from the seed making rotation.

I also believe stability means no true hermies, nanners late in flower is different in my opinion than a true herm.

Honestly none of that really bothers me about GPS, what bothers me is how crooked of a business model this company has, picture stealing, and the lack of transparency for everything is what makes me never want to use GPS for anything.
 
mistermagoo

mistermagoo

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Yodaweed said:
I agree with a lot of this, if you run 2 packs you should find something decent, if you don't imo it should be cut from the seed making rotation.

I also believe stability means no true hermies, nanners late in flower is different in my opinion than a true herm.

Honestly none of that really bothers me about GPS, what bothers me is how crooked of a business model this company has, picture stealing, and the lack of transparency for everything is what makes me never want to use GPS for anything.
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That’s pretty much where I stand
 
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rollinfunk

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hmm. Looks like Gu deleted his account. Does this mean his posts are gone? He must be sick of the last few pages. Sucks if we want info about what we've bought. I guess we can just email him?
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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hillbill said:
High on the list would be lack of male flowers on female plants at any stage. I would think each plant should be more similar to all than not. Flower time?
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That’s a very common feature of the Cannabis genus, as far as I know. Good line breeding practices that would minimize that sort of expression are not fashionable right now because everyone is so busy chasing money and potency. We have a lot to learn from the euro scene, still.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Michael Huntherz said:
Sorry for giving you shit about making money I’ve got no problem with that. I honestly can’t tell when you’re being sarcastic or not
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No worries.every plant in my space counts.those fucked up green points have cost me 10 grand.like no bullshit.i had alot of faith in those sundaes and when I do a 4x10 all that larfy ass stringy mutant garbage i cannot get rid of it.no one and i mean no one will take it.so i lose a month and than it takes me another month to get a new run in the flower room.after me and Jay finally got him to admit where his shit came from I had to RIP em up.i have been that route to many times and end up with a scrog of garbage.so yeah I'm a cropper but I'm also picky as shit cause I know what sells.every strain I ever kept was over the top.
The only seeds I'll run in the big buckets for now on are the ones I make.at least I know exactly who the parents are and have enough cuts to keep me busy for quite a while.
Personally I prefer fems anyway.not everyone has the space to sex a bunch of plants.alot easier to just run what comes up and both parents are.proven heavyweights.
 
MATTYMATT726

MATTYMATT726

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-_- great. I had thought i seen a good rep pn multiple occasions on GPS and just bought a friend the Hickok Haze and Full Moon Fever and looks like i might not have made the best choice for a birthday gift. Anyone grow these 2 have input on them good or bad? I guess all his strains are s1 than? Which how is that different than F1-F6 which is what im familiar with when taliking about seed generations. Thanks.
 
Amos Otis

Amos Otis

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Tangerine_ said:
I agree with @coppershot . This thread has turned into a dumpster fire.

I'm getting out while I still have a few brain cells left unscathed.
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Ha ha ha. Seriously...aha ha ha etc.

There are several who have given their farewell posts on this thread. Name one that has actually left. See above "aha ha ha etc".

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Allow me to post a famous Frank Zappa line from 200 Motels:
"You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave" [ cue guitar screech]
 
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