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I use a ton of blumats and never have clogging issues with 60 gallon res's that I have had 89 degree temps for long periods. I don't chill anything, never clean rez until end of run, and nothing clogs. I bought the blumat filter listed on the website...You can even unscrew it and pour it out when needed. Just have shut off valve before the filter. Cheap 30$ but I never see people using them? Never clogs. I also use hypogrow which blumat recommends to keep lines clear. It is cheap and no matter how slimy my res is or how hot it gets my plants are fucking wow. Absolute perfection.

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Yeah I will say that when mine were clogging I was trying to run mega crop through them and was told that was the problem. So my most recent go with them I'm running only clean water through them and hand watering weekend feeds. About 3 weeks in with no clogs or slime build up on the walls of the rez. Booming growth but I did try to cut corners on the setup by turning the top cap 1.5 arrows instead of 2 since I usually have to tighten each cap after a week anyway but that caused some really heavy watering. Each day I'd be tightening caps with runoff everywhere. So I've been chasing my tail over that for the past few weeks and decided the other day, despite the awesome growth, to just re set them up correctly so I dont get root issues or fungus gnats ect.

I didnt know about that blumat filter though. I'm gonna look into that, thanks for sharing.

NugHeuser said:

Yeah I will say that when mine were clogging I was trying to run mega crop through them and was told that was the problem. So my most recent go with them I'm running only clean water through them and hand watering weekend feeds. About 3 weeks in with no clogs or slime build up on the walls of the rez. Booming growth but I did try to cut corners on the setup by turning the top cap 1.5 arrows instead of 2 since I usually have to tighten each cap after a week anyway but that caused some really heavy watering. Each day I'd be tightening caps with runoff everywhere. So I've been chasing my tail over that for the past few weeks and decided the other day, despite the awesome growth, to just re set them up correctly so I dont get root issues or fungus gnats ect.

I didnt know about that blumat filter though. I'm gonna look into that, thanks for sharing.

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It was your mega crop. I did tons of hands on research in all growth stages with both jacks and mega. Hypogrow and filter will most likely fix the clogging with it but it will still dirty the res. I use Jacks only now woth no chillers and while the reservoirs are nasty it isnt as bad as megacrop and stays way cleaner longer (with chillers clean as spring water). Megacrop goes bad in a 5 gal bucket in a day or two while jacks goes for 6+ days and still stays clean. Megacrop will also cause a pH swing. The swing is caused by bacteria eating the organics and sugars. Every competent aeroponics guy knows when ph swings up you gotta watch for slime and what not. Jacks stays real good around 84 and under but my 90's temps in flowering def make them get little slimy and ugly. It blew my mind the first time how good my plants looked and how my reservoirs looked at end of flowering. I am a big follow by the book but for some reason just decided to test what I was doing and whether I could save $$$$$ by swapping cost of water chillers, electric, and the crazy heat they put off and just run Hypogrow. Whether hypogrow is key or just filter or combination I can't tell you but damn trust me when I say my plants look beautiful from start to finish. Even huge from seed runs with Chem 91 and TK genes are perfect.

Jacks, Blumats+Filter, Coco, + Hypo grow = money in my flowering room and really saves me a shit load of time. I still like to add beneficial microbes and gnat killing bacteria every Sunday I feel like hand watering though.

Just got my black Friday order. Money sent Dec 3 got it in the mail Dec 21st. 18 days from sending in my Money order. Didn't have to pay on delivery this time

My last orders have taken 8 or 9 days from when they received my payment and sent notice that they're shipping. Its Christmas crazy. I got seeds from another few companies and nothing has been faster than a week.

@Gu~ @Dats my bike punk
I am trying to figure out which strains to pop for my area when summer comes back. I don't want to accidentally grow a strain inside that will do better than the others outside. I live in coastal new england and the late season is what always rots buds, cold weather in october. I live in Massachusetts.
I was hoping to see if yall recommend any of the strains I currently have to run outside next year, something resilient to outdoors and not susceptible to mold, perhaps an early finishing strain

anyone else please too make your recommendations, the information on the seeds don't have much info on stuff like this so It is really hard for me to choose!

The Line up.. Purple crunch, GG#4, catalina wine cooler, sour cookies, banana orange daiquiri, Pig whistle, Chinook Haze, stardawg F2, Cowboy Kush, Pioneer Kush, Texas Chem, Raindance, bison breath, snake oil, pebble pusher, bodega bubblegum, eagle scout, and california cannon

If there is something not here that will definately be a much better strain available I am interested in that too!

Nizza said:

@Gu~ @Dats my bike punk
I am trying to figure out which strains to pop for my area when summer comes back. I don't want to accidentally grow a strain inside that will do better than the others outside. I live in coastal new england and the late season is what always rots buds, cold weather in october. I live in Massachusetts.

The Line up.. Purple crunch, GG#4, catalina wine cooler, sour cookies, banana orange daiquiri, Pig whistle, Chinook Haze, stardawg F2, Cowboy Kush, Pioneer Kush, Texas Chem, Raindance, bison breath, snake oil, pebble pusher, bodega bubblegum, eagle scout, and california cannon

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pretty sure neither of these guys grows outside. If I were you I would pheno hunt a shorter flowering specimen from the beans you have or get a known shorter flowering time cut for your outdoor. In my experience many of the plants end up with the flowering time of the male stardawg. 68-75 days. Long for a northern season. Some of the indica leaning crosses GU made had some earlyish finishers. I have grown a few strains you have outdoor and they were both done around Oct 20. Both chinook haze and Eagle Scout did not get mold or PM. I am a northerner like you. I really need a 60 day strain to be comfortable. Or start the plants early inside / light dep to achieve the flowering date you want. My 2 cents.

In Maine, the stardawg crosses are mid to very late October finishers. I gave up on them out door and went with strains bred for outdoors to get something that would finish earlier.

Greenpoint is only indoor for me now.

Thank you for the input
Perhaps I’ll go with a different bank for seeds on the outdoor season or do the light dep, but I usually have an indoor crop going during early Dep season.

I figured they don’t grow outdoors but if they had a strain aimed towards it that would be cool! Or at least a recommendation

I’ll do some chinooks and eagles then unless anyone else has some experience in this

Nizza said:

Thank you for the input
Perhaps I’ll go with a different bank for seeds on the outdoor season or do the light dep, but I usually have an indoor crop going during early Dep season.

I figured they don’t grow outdoors but if they had a strain aimed towards it that would be cool! Or at least a recommendation

I’ll do some chinooks and eagles then unless anyone else has some experience in this

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There is no stardawg in the female crosses on greenpoint as of now besides the Corey cut cross.
The purple punch crosses are all early finishers.
The purple punch used in those crosses finishes at 8 weeks. The majority of the crosses finish between 8 and 9 weeks. The longest finishers will be the gmo, topanga, east coast S D , but the majority will finish up pretty quick. Mold has not been an issue on any of the parent plants. The majority of the plants used in the crosses have already been chosen for several reasons. Resistance to mold and quicker finishing times have been deal breakers for plants that could not meet that criteria.

Nizza said:

Thank you for the input
Perhaps I’ll go with a different bank for seeds on the outdoor season or do the light dep, but I usually have an indoor crop going during early Dep season.

I figured they don’t grow outdoors but if they had a strain aimed towards it that would be cool! Or at least a recommendation

I’ll do some chinooks and eagles then unless anyone else has some experience in this

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For outdoor up north look at Canadian breeders. Great white north seeds has solid outdoor gear.

Good shit. I will check them out esoteric, the only purple cross I have is the Purple crunch and I would like to save it for an indoor run.
Thanks so much for the replies yall, I know I've asked this same question somewhere here before but I had bought more seeds on black friday.

If greenpoint produced an outdoor type variety I would go for it but, I understand they're after the strongest stuff, and that is usually dense which doesnt mix with NE weather.

That makes sense, stuff that is less potent with more mold resistance wouldn't be what you're looking for indoor growing.
I appreciate it fellas thanks a ton, I want some forethought this season so I'm not so worried about the buds finishing up late season, its always a big scare when the bad weather comes through here in october

Nizza said:

Good shit. I will check them out esoteric, the only purple cross I have is the Purple crunch and I would like to save it for an indoor run.
Thanks so much for the replies yall, I know I've asked this same question somewhere here before but I had bought more seeds on black friday.

If greenpoint produced an outdoor type variety I would go for it but, I understand they're after the strongest stuff, and that is usually dense which doesnt mix with NE weather.

That makes sense, stuff that is less potent with more mold resistance wouldn't be what you're looking for indoor growing.
I appreciate it fellas thanks a ton, I want some forethought this season so I'm not so worried about the buds finishing up late season, its always a big scare when the bad weather comes through here in october

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Something that is available at JBCseeds is Vashon Early Bird, It transitions to flower very early (mid July) and is done by the end of September. How early they go into flower outdoor is more important than flowering time I find. For example a 8 week flowering strain that doesn't transition to flower until late August could be a problem with the short New England seasons. The VEB doesnt have the looks/Terps of the Stardawg gear, but its done before it rots.

Rivendell said:

Something that is available at JBCseeds is Vashon Early Bird, It transitions to flower very early (mid July) and is done by the end of September. How early they go into flower outdoor is more important than flowering time I find. For example a 8 week flowering strain that doesn't transition to flower until late August could be a problem with the short New England seasons. The VEB doesnt have the looks/Terps of the Stardawg gear, but its done before it rots.

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Truth!

My buddy back in illinois had a strain he got from his father. They called it oak because how resilient it was outdoor. The strain had been grown outdoor in Illinois for over 10+ year, supposedly over 20, and it had been acclimated to the short season. If you put a plant outdoor in may itd start flowering by the end of july and be done in Sept. When dude came over with fresh bud in late September it blew my mind.

I had a cut of it for a bit but it just wasn't potent enough for me. Had a great fruity pebbles taste and was a great commercial strain though.

If you got 10 yrs or so you can acclimate an indoor strain to outdoor conditions through selective breeding.

That would make alot of sense to want the plant mature as fast as possible so it starts budding earlier thanks for that. I always plant late because I want small managable plants that don't go over my fence lol!

maybe I will start early then clone and do a bunch of clones to keep them short. That way they're mature and small

Nizza said:

That would make alot of sense to want the plant mature as fast as possible so it starts budding earlier thanks for that. I always plant late because I want small managable plants that don't go over my fence lol!

maybe I will start early then clone and do a bunch of clones to keep them short. That way they're mature and small

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If you have access to any clones, be on the look out for Mother of Berries. I'm sure it's made its way through out Mass by now. Early flowering, great taste and smell and plenty potent. Pretty much the outdoor "Old Reliable" in many parts of Maine.

I don't have access to clones, and since this isn't really about green point strains I made a thread about the upcoming outdoor season and different strains people have tried
I saw a link for some of the beans at a bank I mentioned there, I and wondering if I would be better off trying to figure out how to access clones. I don't have access to clones but if beans aren't going to cut it, I could try and hunt
I am not looking for anything crazy just something that is a little more apt to the weather here, thanks yall

Nizza said:

@Gu~ @Dats my bike punk
I am trying to figure out which strains to pop for my area when summer comes back. I don't want to accidentally grow a strain inside that will do better than the others outside. I live in coastal new england and the late season is what always rots buds, cold weather in october. I live in Massachusetts.
I was hoping to see if yall recommend any of the strains I currently have to run outside next year, something resilient to outdoors and not susceptible to mold, perhaps an early finishing strain

anyone else please too make your recommendations, the information on the seeds don't have much info on stuff like this so It is really hard for me to choose!

The Line up.. Purple crunch, GG#4, catalina wine cooler, sour cookies, banana orange daiquiri, Pig whistle, Chinook Haze, stardawg F2, Cowboy Kush, Pioneer Kush, Texas Chem, Raindance, bison breath, snake oil, pebble pusher, bodega bubblegum, eagle scout, and california cannon

If there is something not here that will definately be a much better strain available I am interested in that too!

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Check out Maine clone company they see seeds, I ran their New England skunk it started flowering in July and was done 1st week sept, easy grow I kept them trained back to 8ft....

FluffsTravels said:

We started four packs of Cake n Chem and four packs of Cooper Chem. Interestingly, two of the cake n chem packs were from the first release and two of the packs were bought this summer. Not sure it will actually mean anything, but something for us to think about. That being said, nearly all the beans sprouted. We had a total of 84 beans due to some extras in certain packs. Three didn't sprout at all leaving us with 81. Two we're very slow. One seemed retarded but it's a female CnC (cake n chem) so we're going to let her play out. Of the 81 total, we have 18 female CnC and 21 female CC (copper chem). So far, the CC are taller and more lanky. Was just able to top get them all topped at the 6th node. Tallest CC is 23 inches from top of the container. They'll all be 1 gallons by the end of the day. Note: Indoor under CMH/LEC

I'm excited. More seeds starts can equal more tough decisions on what to keep and what to cull, but more also increases the chances of getting a true gem. Ideally, from the CnC we get one extremely close to a Wedding Cake (but then again how would I know, lol) and one for which the Chem shines through. From the Copper Chem... imagine it's going to come down to testing with many similar phone's.

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So, we decided to clone all the female seeds as the seed starts were too lanky. We also often find you don't get a true representation of the seed until at least a second run. Three weeks into flowering we've culled one Copper and four Cakes. The four cakes were just too small in height. We're pheno hunting so there is no point in keeping a slow grower or a runt. The singular Copper we culled was due to slow developing compared to the other 20 with some strange leaf growth. Just sickly.

Of the two strains, thus far, the Copper's appear to be the superior strain with far better internoding, larger bud sites, better branching, and more resin production on the leaves. Trying to pick a singular or even three winners of the Copper's is probably going to be tough. Many look very similar. We're stoked. There are a couple Cake's with better noding and branching. It's early though, and there could be a lot of good Cake's. The second pic is an attempt to show you the internoding of the Copper's at 21 days.

Some shots of Sundae Banana Cookies just as the lights were coming on.
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