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hillbill

hillbill

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Most trouble free strains at my house; Tomahawk (not real tight but very potent and smelly), Dynamite Diesel, California Cannon (1 bunch of nanners in several runs), Night Rider( like Copper Chem but thinner buds and active high, potent.), Copper Chem (easy, trouble free, nice yield, solid tight buds powerful wide range high), Pioneer Kush (strong high slightly weak early). Blizzard Bush (more active than I would have thought and slightly smaller than average, Dream Catcher (potent and decent yield, lots of males), Cowboy Kush (don’t know as first attempt was 5(5 boys). Black Gold (don,t get much better but not available).

Purple Mountain Majesty (as strong and powerful as any I’ve had but germed 5 and had 2 boys, 2 full blown 50/50 herms and one girl. Was gonna run again but decided it was much too risky in my perpetual system.
 
Cptn

Cptn

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Bakersfield said:
Is Greenpoint aware that they have innacurate lineages listed for their Stardawg stud?
Pretty comical really, that is unless it was a typo by an hourly web guy.
You know an honest mistake?
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I started seeing the pedigree errors right after Gu got married last summer.
Without anything to support this theory, I got it in my head that maybe he had his wife start doing the writeups and she was pulling info from strainly or other notoriously unreliable internet sources.
Sad, because the stuff Gu used to write for his listings was really damn good.
It's really strange that they even edited their formerly correct pedigree of Stardawg with the incorrect Chem '91 info on the page about their male:
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Stardawg - Chemdog 4 x Tres Dawg

Stardawg - Chemdog 4 x Tres Dawg -The story of Chem Dog begins at a Grateful Dead concert parking lot in Indiana where the famed Dog Bud...
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JJ from TopDawg has said over and over that Stardawg is Chem 4 x tres Dawg and that tres Dawg was Chem D BX3 (with an Afghani #1 outcross male).
He said it in the Topdawg strain index thread on IC mag and in interviews.
Here is a quote on Tres Dawg from his interview with high Times:
HT: Where did Tre Dawg come from?​
TDS: That was me. I had originally got the Chem D, then I got the Afghan #1 from Sensi Seeds. I also had Hindu Kush. I was going to cross one of those two strains into the Chem. After growing out the Hindu Kush and the Afghan #1 side-by-side, I decided to go with the Afghan because it was not as leafy and it had a thicker stem. I just thought it was a better overall plant than the Kush to throw into the Chem. I then backcrossed it twice it to make the Tres Dawg.​

He also gives a great description of the pedigree of Stardawg in the interview:
HT: How do you feel about other companies using a Star Dawg male to breed with?​
TDS: I don’t mind if they outcross to different strains. I think that is a good thing. It makes the strain more popular, but when people try to copy me and try and profit off of it, that’s what I don’t like; anything to do with the Chem stuff really because Star Dawg is a Chem Dog. It’s a Chem 4 x Tres Dawg cross. And Tres Dawg is Afghan X Chem D. Its basically two different Chems crossed to Chem 4. It’s a staple strain, very easy for anyone to throw it into a Chem Dog strain, and for them to claim it as theirs. I don’t mind people crossing it to Lemon G, Girl Scout Cookies or anything like that. When you try to copy the strain, and cross it back into the family that it came from, it is basically copying and ripping me off, and trying to undercut me on pricing too.​

Things like this really bug me.
If you care about genetics at all, you understand the importance of accuracy in pedigrees.
Luckily, I know what I have without them telling me, but sad to think some newbies might read that mis-info and get very confused.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Cptn said:
I started seeing the pedigree errors right after Gu got married last summer.
Without anything to support this theory, I got it in my head that maybe he had his wife start doing the writeups and she was pulling info from strainly or other notoriously unreliable internet sources.
Sad, because the stuff Gu used to write for his listings was really damn good.
It's really strange that they even edited their formerly correct pedigree of Stardawg with the incorrect Chem '91 info on the page about their male:
greenpointseeds.com

Stardawg - Chemdog 4 x Tres Dawg

Stardawg - Chemdog 4 x Tres Dawg -The story of Chem Dog begins at a Grateful Dead concert parking lot in Indiana where the famed Dog Bud...
greenpointseeds.com greenpointseeds.com

JJ from TopDawg has said over and over that Stardawg is Chem 4 x tres Dawg and that tres Dawg was Chem D BX3 (with an Afghani #1 outcross male).
He said it in the Topdawg strain index thread on IC mag and in interviews.
Here is a quote on Tres Dawg from his interview with high Times:
HT: Where did Tre Dawg come from?​
TDS: That was me. I had originally got the Chem D, then I got the Afghan #1 from Sensi Seeds. I also had Hindu Kush. I was going to cross one of those two strains into the Chem. After growing out the Hindu Kush and the Afghan #1 side-by-side, I decided to go with the Afghan because it was not as leafy and it had a thicker stem. I just thought it was a better overall plant than the Kush to throw into the Chem. I then backcrossed it twice it to make the Tres Dawg.​

He also gives a great description of the pedigree of Stardawg in the interview:
HT: How do you feel about other companies using a Star Dawg male to breed with?​
TDS: I don’t mind if they outcross to different strains. I think that is a good thing. It makes the strain more popular, but when people try to copy me and try and profit off of it, that’s what I don’t like; anything to do with the Chem stuff really because Star Dawg is a Chem Dog. It’s a Chem 4 x Tres Dawg cross. And Tres Dawg is Afghan X Chem D. Its basically two different Chems crossed to Chem 4. It’s a staple strain, very easy for anyone to throw it into a Chem Dog strain, and for them to claim it as theirs. I don’t mind people crossing it to Lemon G, Girl Scout Cookies or anything like that. When you try to copy the strain, and cross it back into the family that it came from, it is basically copying and ripping me off, and trying to undercut me on pricing too.​

Things like this really bug me.
If you care about genetics at all, you understand the importance of accuracy in pedigrees.
Luckily, I know what I have without them telling me, but sad to think some newbies might read that mis-info and get very confused.
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Thank you. :clap:

Details matter.

The way I see it, if someone can't handle little things, why would I trust them with big things? :roll:
 
SmokeyMcChokey

SmokeyMcChokey

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Greenthumbskunk said:
Hes grown he can do what he wants to do. Im in hydro and i have some plugs on the ground in some spots and also some air pumps as well.


Oh the humanity!!!!
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I dunno man. It's such an easy thing to lift. Why would you intentionally ignore it? Just lift it a few inches with a chunk of 4*4. It's legitimately electricians 101 not to put connections where it's wet or could reasonably be wet.

Edit just to clarify hypocrisy: I currently have an air pump on the concrete floor and a strip hanging right above it.
 
F

Fiete

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Chunky Stool said:
Love the high brix!
Nice job.

Why did you plant them so high in those pots?
Just curious.

When it comes to repotting, I treat my cannabis just like tomatoes -- the deeper the better.
Helps avoid perched water table.
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That is just for the drain water underneath ;) that's my own drain table lol.. And they don't sit in the drain water.
 
FluffsTravels

FluffsTravels

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Rest of the results from my pheno hunt

74th Day Harvest
Cake n Chem –
E6 – 87g
E9 – 118g

Copper Chem
F6 – 173g Purple
C5 – 155g
B1 – 150g
H6 – 142g
G9 – 127g
A11 – 121g
D7 – 112g
C2 – 116g
E1 – 110g
B2 – 80g


78th Day Harvest
Copper Chem-
F4 – 242g Biggest yielder of all, purple and dragon colors, vigorous healthy growth, tons of tops, still smells like grape bubblegum, highly resinous, clear winner across all metrics
A10 – 190g
B6 – 180g
A2 – 154g
G4 – 146g
H1 – 104g
Cake n Chem
F10 – 127g
H2 – 110g


81st Day Harvest
Copper Chem –
C10 – 232g Largest nugs, tall, strong, 2nd biggest yielder of all, smells like lemon funk,
Cake n Chem
C3 – 104g Purple runt, very resinous

32 plants, 4 x 1000w DE HPS, 11x10 room, total yield 4655g
 
FluffsTravels

FluffsTravels

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This plant is why I do bigger pheno hunts. Started with 40 Copper Chem's. Had 21 females. Culled down to 18 due to a few runts and get our plant count within our medical card limits. Of 18 females there are easily a half dozen keepers to test again, and many other beauties that don't meet the yield criteria. That being said, this beauty stood out and happened to be the biggest yielder as well. It may not be quite as aesthetically pleasing as a few of the Cake's, but it's real nice. And it smells like grape bubblegum even after drying.Copper_F4_2.JPEGCopper_F4.JPEG

I would highly recommend Copper Chem. Cake n Chem as well but I'll get to those later; as well as smoke and test results on some.
Very happy with GPS... again.
 
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smokeybeard

smokeybeard

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FluffsTravels said:
This plant is why I do bigger pheno hunts. Started with 40 Copper Chem's. Had 21 females. Culled down to 18 due to a few runts and get our plant count within our medical card limits. Of 18 females there are easily a half dozen keepers to test again, and many other beauties that don't meet the yield criteria. That being said, this beauty stood out and happened to be the biggest yielder as well. It may not be quite as aesthetically pleasing as a few of the Cake's, but it's real nice. And it smells like grape bubblegum even after drying.View attachment 4488526View attachment 4488527

I would highly recommend Copper Chem. Cake n Chem as well but I'll get to those later; as well as smoke and test results on some.
Very happy with GPS... again.
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Happy to hear the copper chem report. I’ve got 2 full packs on hand so I should find a good one.
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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Heavily edited version :spew:
Gu~ said:
Simple mistake. We are going through all the content now to fix the chem 91 error
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Life on Greenpoint moves very slow.
Every reference to Stardawg and Tres Dawg is still inaccurate.

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killakanna said:
Are you not going to explain? :P
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His packs even use to list the correct lineage, instead of the term Stardawg, back when he was recieving heat for using the Stardawg.
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Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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FluffsTravels said:
This plant is why I do bigger pheno hunts. Started with 40 Copper Chem's. Had 21 females. Culled down to 18 due to a few runts and get our plant count within our medical card limits. Of 18 females there are easily a half dozen keepers to test again, and many other beauties that don't meet the yield criteria. That being said, this beauty stood out and happened to be the biggest yielder as well. It may not be quite as aesthetically pleasing as a few of the Cake's, but it's real nice. And it smells like grape bubblegum even after drying.View attachment 4488526View attachment 4488527

I would highly recommend Copper Chem. Cake n Chem as well but I'll get to those later; as well as smoke and test results on some.
Very happy with GPS... again.
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Congrats on the beautiful flowers. :clap:
Chem 4 x Stardawg = Grape Bubblegum after drying, who would of thought? :-?
What did the other coppers smell like to you?
 
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FluffsTravels

FluffsTravels

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smokeybeard said:
Happy to hear the copper chem report. I’ve got 2 full packs on hand so I should find a good one.
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I would think so. It was the "flagship" strain of GPS for quite some time, and there are a ton of good reviews of the Copper Chem. There is always a bit of luck involved which is why I like to pheno hunt with as many beans as possible, but having two packs is great. And I have to say, there wasn't one female that didn't produce what looked to be quality nug; though I or patients haven't smoked it all yet.
 
FluffsTravels

FluffsTravels

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Bakersfield said:
Congrats on the beautiful flowers. :clap:
Chem 4 x Stardawg = Grape Bubblegum after drying, who would of thought? :-?
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Thank you. And 242g. Holy fuck!! Jackpot; if it's potent enough.
A bit more like grape soda today as it's curing, but two others posted about having a Copper Chem with a purple grape pheno in the past as well. One of them posted pics. It was the purple pheno of Stardawg. I don't have much confidence that the testers of the purple Stardawg sent out were stabilized. It's why you pheno hunt... even with stabilized strains.
 
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