Greenpoint seeds!!

jbgrower said:

Came in a day early, good way to start the weekend...
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Only problem is I have zero room for new plants, so off with the rest of the stash they go

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WheresMIweed? said:

Also had to add that I’m disappointed that GPS isn’t gonna offer the potential to select a male from their genes.......seems wrong. Why eliminate the regs?

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Cptn said:

I understand the disappointment at the new direction.
Greenpoint has taken things about as far as they could in crosses from their excellent Stardawg male.
To keep selling seeds, they need something new.

Selecting a killer male is hard. It requires several cycles of progeny testing before you could come to market with something that Gu could stand behind with real confidence. Once you have this SuperMan, convincing people it is something special is not easy. Not many male flowering plants getting a bazillion likes on IG today. Coming to market with a line of seeds based on a new male stud in the same model that Greenpoint did with the purple stardawg would begin a fresh cycle of skepticism, distrust and complaints from bad growers who's environment would make the most stable plant in the world throw balls.
None of that is necessary when you just reverse a proven stable and elite famous female cutting.
Also, keeping a male plant around a stable of elite females is always a risk of making unwanted seeds. It requires special handling. Quarantine basically. Male plants like to fuck, and nature finds a way. Who needs that shit?

Finally, @Gu~ is simply replying to market demand and obvious trends from an expanding legal marketplace.
Growth in his customer base is people growing for personal use in legal states. They have little experience, and separating out male plants is just one more way they can screw up. They have plant limits which can sometimes put them at risk having to grow out 10 plants to get 5 females.
Then there are the Instagram hype customers, people who are only interested in Hype cut S1s or Hype cut 1 x Hype cut 2 hybrids so they can take pictures of them and impress their followers online.

Things change and a businessman needs to change with them to remain successful.
For people who are passionate growers and breeders that like the challenge of selecting a superior male, and working their own lines of offspring, there are many people offering regular seeds today to choose from. I guess Gu just figures its better for HIS business to leave that opportunity to others.
Gu is gonna do Gu.

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blueberryrose said:

The way I see it is this: demand for reg seeds is quite low, because true growers that have the patience with reg photos are few and far between in the changing landscape of weed growers. The brunt of new growers want fem seeds, especially if they are fast-finishing plants *cough*AUTOS*cough*
A lot of the members on this forum don't really fit that niche - here many people are into chucking, alternative grow methods, etc.
I bet if you did a marketing survey of 1000 1st time growers, 900 of them want fem seeds. Probably at least half of those are going to see the allure of autos because they don't have to wait - just throw them straight under 12/12 light and off you go. 100 left over are genuinely interested in genetics and possibly making their own beans, and only a small slice of that would even want to bother with long-flowering sativas. I may be pulling numbers out of my arse, ok, but you get the general picture. Growing weed is going mainstream, all the kids are doing it. And they're doing it with fems and autos, and the big players in the business are listening.

Just my 2 cents,

BR

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blueberryrose said:

The way I see it is this: demand for reg seeds is quite low, because true growers that have the patience with reg photos are few and far between in the changing landscape of weed growers. The brunt of new growers want fem seeds, especially if they are fast-finishing plants *cough*AUTOS*cough*
A lot of the members on this forum don't really fit that niche - here many people are into chucking, alternative grow methods, etc.
I bet if you did a marketing survey of 1000 1st time growers, 900 of them want fem seeds. Probably at least half of those are going to see the allure of autos because they don't have to wait - just throw them straight under 12/12 light and off you go. 100 left over are genuinely interested in genetics and possibly making their own beans, and only a small slice of that would even want to bother with long-flowering sativas. I may be pulling numbers out of my arse, ok, but you get the general picture. Growing weed is going mainstream, all the kids are doing it. And they're doing it with fems and autos, and the big players in the business are listening.

Just my 2 cents,

BR

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freewanderer04 said:

So I've got 2 Sundance Kid girls going into week 2 of flower. Glad they're still in 1 gals because they are some stretchy bitches. One is a few inches taller than the other. The tall one has a dank chem smell on the stem rub and the slightly shorter one gives off no smell on the stem rub. The leaves have a slightly sweet smell though. Looking forward to these as Copper Chem was fire and I love some Sherb.

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Cptn said:

I understand the disappointment at the new direction.
Greenpoint has taken things about as far as they could in crosses from their excellent Stardawg male.
To keep selling seeds, they need something new.

Selecting a killer male is hard. It requires several cycles of progeny testing before you could come to market with something that Gu could stand behind with real confidence. Once you have this SuperMan, convincing people it is something special is not easy. Not many male flowering plants getting a bazillion likes on IG today. Coming to market with a line of seeds based on a new male stud in the same model that Greenpoint did with the purple stardawg would begin a fresh cycle of skepticism, distrust and complaints from bad growers who's environment would make the most stable plant in the world throw balls.
None of that is necessary when you just reverse a proven stable and elite famous female cutting.
Also, keeping a male plant around a stable of elite females is always a risk of making unwanted seeds. It requires special handling. Quarantine basically. Male plants like to fuck, and nature finds a way. Who needs that shit?

Finally, @Gu~ is simply replying to market demand and obvious trends from an expanding legal marketplace.
Growth in his customer base is people growing for personal use in legal states. They have little experience, and separating out male plants is just one more way they can screw up. They have plant limits which can sometimes put them at risk having to grow out 10 plants to get 5 females.
Then there are the Instagram hype customers, people who are only interested in Hype cut S1s or Hype cut 1 x Hype cut 2 hybrids so they can take pictures of them and impress their followers online.

Things change and a businessman needs to change with them to remain successful.
For people who are passionate growers and breeders that like the challenge of selecting a superior male, and working their own lines of offspring, there are many people offering regular seeds today to choose from. I guess Gu just figures its better for HIS business to leave that opportunity to others.
Gu is gonna do Gu.

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freewanderer04 said:

So I've got 2 Sundance Kid girls going into week 2 of flower. Glad they're still in 1 gals because they are some stretchy bitches. One is a few inches taller than the other. The tall one has a dank chem smell on the stem rub and the slightly shorter one gives off no smell on the stem rub. The leaves have a slightly sweet smell though. Looking forward to these as Copper Chem was fire and I love some Sherb.

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dakilla187 said:

I also have a Sundance Kid that will enter flower soon, its nicely structured and I look forward to seeing her, hoping she does not pull stardawg...I had a hard time finding females between this and bison breath which I also have in flower right now

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F_Dupp said:

I am 6 weeks into flower with City Slicker and Royal Chem, and I just gotta say, these are some fine plants. The RC is frosty af and has some serious fruit punch smells, and the CS are huge with rock hard, frosty, spiraling colas. Im probably shooting myself in the foot by writing this, as someone will grab all of the remaining RC packs. But I still have one pack, and just bought 3 more during the sale. I have about 30 packs of various Stardawg crosses, if anyone wants to trade for some City Slicker. I was hoping some of the old stuff would be restocked for 4/20, but that didnt happen.

Retiring the Stardawg male is criminal, if you ask me. Fuck all them female and auto seeds.

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