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GroErr

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BobCajun said:
I quick dried a small 8 week Blue Pyramid bud, in a microwave, to try it again and it wasn't strong at all. I hope it potents up a lot in the next 2 weeks. Maybe that one pheno was weak, I don't know. You said in one post that everybody likes the Blue Pyramid. So nobody complained of low potency? It also seemed pretty harsh. Did anybody say it was harsh?
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Yeah you can't judge the taste or potency at this point if that's a 10 week pheno, quick dry buds are typically harsh too. I had an initial keeper pheno I ended up losing which had great flavours but not as potent. I ran 3 more and the one I kept has an almost identical flavour, very hashy but also some tangerine smell, more punch than the original one I ran. This keeper knocks me out so I smoke it at night only, that effect can be different for each person. The flavour/smell though is consistent with anyone I've shared it with, they all want it, I don't sell so they smoke it when I smoke it. Trick is getting the pheno you like, but from running about 6 they've all been pretty consistent, the keepers just stand out more in either flavour, potency or both. I have no problem recommending a 5 pack (they only sell fems in 5 packs I think) with a high chance of getting something you like. I haven't seen anything as consistent other than maybe the HSO Blue Dream fems.
 
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Thanks. I've had a lot of disappointing strains so far so I'm hoping this one is good enough. Was just getting a little worried that it may have happened again. Blueberry usually tests high but I think they bred something else with it for this. I found a couple test results in analytical360 for Blue Pyramid itself and one was 7 something and the other 10 something, so that wasn't encouraging. Could have been grown outdoors or something.
 
GroErr

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Continuing on the pheno hunts. Mix of seedlings in the veg cabinet. Most were still in 6 oz. cups and were transferred to 16 oz. I've been using the 6 oz. cups for the initial sprouting, less medium as I usually cull some at this stage, except every one of them made it through! I'm sure I'll cull some again before they get into 1gal's to sex them but nothing too bad looking in there yet.

The line up is mainly for breeding on so will be looking for either a female or male that stands out for each strain. I originally dropped 8 of each, these are the one's that popped through the soil.

Check out bottom-right, 2nd from right. Popped a twin from the Blue Ripper x Blue Dream F1's, the main one is normal size, its twin is a tiny little runt. Will let them go and see what happens.

6x Columbian Gold (World of Seeds Pure Origin Collection, Regs)
6x Afghan Kush (White Label Seeds, Regs)
7x Blue Ripper F2's (looking for an F2 male, Regs)
6x Blue Ripper x Blue Dream BX Testers, just wanting to see what pops from this batch

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
Underground Scientist

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GroErr said:
Continuing on the pheno hunts. Mix of seedlings in the veg cabinet. Most were still in 6 oz. cups and were transferred to 16 oz. I've been using the 6 oz. cups for the initial sprouting, less medium as I usually cull some at this stage, except every one of them made it through! I'm sure I'll cull some again before they get into 1gal's to sex them but nothing too bad looking in there yet.

The line up is mainly for breeding on so will be looking for either a female or male that stands out for each strain. I originally dropped 8 of each, these are the one's that popped through the soil.

Check out bottom-right, 2nd from right. Popped a twin from the Blue Ripper x Blue Dream F1's, the main one is normal size, its twin is a tiny little runt. Will let them go and see what happens.

6x Columbian Gold (World of Seeds Pure Origin Collection, Regs)
6x Afghan Kush (White Label Seeds, Regs)
7x Blue Ripper F2's (looking for an F2 male, Regs)
6x Blue Ripper x Blue Dream BX Testers, just wanting to see what pops from this batch

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Cheers :bigjoint:
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I want to do a small breed to get an interesting batch of seeds. I grow PeakSeedsBC. I wanted to cross the KushBerry x SweetSkunk. Even if I set up a dedicated small tent, little wary of letting a male let it's pollen fly in my grow room. Not sure how to approach. Maybe select a male, clone it and put it into 12/12 with a female clone so it's a small operation. IDK
 
GroErr

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Evil-Mobo said:
You sir, are having way more fun over there than one person should take in daily :bigjoint:

Looking good G bongsmilie
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Cheers Evil, this is a year for pheno hunts and breeding, stash is built up to the point I don't need to grow anything to smoke/eat for the year so it's time for some fun stuff :)

Got another mutant in the batch. This is the second or third twin I've popped, have had a couple of tri-leaf phenos. Now I'm looking for a tri-leaf twin pheno - lol
 
Evil-Mobo

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GroErr said:
Cheers Evil, this is a year for pheno hunts and breeding, stash is built up to the point I don't need to grow anything to smoke/eat for the year so it's time for some fun stuff :)

Got another mutant in the batch. This is the second or third twin I've popped, have had a couple of tri-leaf phenos. Now I'm looking for a tri-leaf twin pheno - lol
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I would be in heaven, trying to do the same but on a smaller scale. That's why I popped all the auto's first to build the stash so I can breed late summer into fall and grow the first of my own beans this fall/winter. That's why I have that Satori male hanging out, waiting on a couple of fems and going to use an SBA clone with him too, and maybe a special strain I recently got a hold of too......
 
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Underground Scientist said:
I want to do a small breed to get an interesting batch of seeds. I grow PeakSeedsBC. I wanted to cross the KushBerry x SweetSkunk. Even if I set up a dedicated small tent, little wary of letting a male let it's pollen fly in my grow room. Not sure how to approach. Maybe select a male, clone it and put it into 12/12 with a female clone so it's a small operation. IDK
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Yeah definitely need a separate space for the males. I use a tiny 2x2x4' tent stuck under my stairs going into the basement. Fits nicely in there and use it to flower out males well away from my flower room. The odd time like a couple of runs back I'll do what you're thinking, put a clone of a male or if timing works the original male from seed into the tent, drop the female I want to seed and let them do their thing. One small clone in 1 or 2gal can produce hundreds of seeds and if you haven't "painted" specific branches on a plant this is the easiest way to guarantee pollination and grab a ton of seeds.

I like seeing what comes out of the endless combinations and trying to mix/find the traits I like best in the resulting offspring. Tons of fun :)
 
Underground Scientist

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Yeah definitely need a separate space for the males. I use a tiny 2x2x4' tent stuck under my stairs going into the basement. Fits nicely in there and use it to flower out males well away from my flower room. The odd time like a couple of runs back I'll do what you're thinking, put a clone of a male or if timing works the original male from seed into the tent, drop the female I want to seed and let them do their thing. One small clone in 1 or 2gal can produce hundreds of seeds and if you haven't "painted" specific branches on a plant this is the easiest way to guarantee pollination and grab a ton of seeds.

I like seeing what comes out of the endless combinations and trying to mix/find the traits I like best in the resulting offspring. Tons of fun :)
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Right, I get ya, I could grow out a secluded male and collect pollen in a film canister and brush it on a flower. I have a tiny bit of NorthernSkunk pollen.
 
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Evil-Mobo said:
I would be in heaven, trying to do the same but on a smaller scale. That's why I popped all the auto's first to build the stash so I can breed late summer into fall and grow the first of my own beans this fall/winter. That's why I have that Satori male hanging out, waiting on a couple of fems and going to use an SBA clone with him too, and maybe a special strain I recently got a hold of too......
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You can do a lot of crosses in the space you have by painting selective branches which is how I get most of my seeds. Just pollinate a branch, let it sit for a few hours or overnight to take the pollen, spray it down well to kill any remaining stray pollen, then back into the flower room to grow the seeds.

The only dedicated space you need is to flower out sand collect the male pollen, or to do an open pollination if you want to grab hundreds of one cross. That last open pollination I grabbed somewhere around 600-700 seeds from two open pollinated females, small clones going into flowering. I'll do that only if I'm going to share out a bunch otherwise it's overkill, i'd never be able to pop that many seeds, nor want to with a single strain.

You do need some height for males as they tend to stretch like mofos compared to females but with LED's and little overhead a 4ft. tent is good enough, it's all I've used. Sometimes if I let the males get too big before flipping they grow into the lights and I'll super-crop them to manage them. One of the two Skunk #1 males is now hitting the lights, but males flower fast, typically under 25 days so it's easy enough to manage the height.
 
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Underground Scientist said:
Right, I get ya, I could grow out a secluded male and collect pollen in a film canister and brush it on a flower. I have a tiny bit of NorthernSkunk pollen.
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Yeah that's how I grow most of my seeds, otherwise you end up with too many seeds that will be wasted. I only open pollinate for large batches I want to share out.
 
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Underground Scientist said:
What stage of growth do u paint it on?
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Typically at the 3 week mark, a couple of days earlier if it's an early finishing pheno and the buds are developed enough. You need them to develop enough hairs to paint the buds, and you want around 4.5+ weeks to develop the seeds into nice fatties after pollination, 5-6 weeks to mature is better. My 8 week Blue Ripper's always make nice dark fatties and I usually hit them at 3 weeks.
 
Evil-Mobo

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GroErr said:
You can do a lot of crosses in the space you have by painting selective branches which is how I get most of my seeds. Just pollinate a branch, let it sit for a few hours or overnight to take the pollen, spray it down well to kill any remaining stray pollen, then back into the flower room to grow the seeds.

The only dedicated space you need is to flower out sand collect the male pollen, or to do an open pollination if you want to grab hundreds of one cross. That last open pollination I grabbed somewhere around 600-700 seeds from two open pollinated females, small clones going into flowering. I'll do that only if I'm going to share out a bunch otherwise it's overkill, i'd never be able to pop that many seeds, nor want to with a single strain.

You do need some height for males as they tend to stretch like mofos compared to females but with LED's and little overhead a 4ft. tent is good enough, it's all I've used. Sometimes if I let the males get too big before flipping they grow into the lights and I'll super-crop them to manage them. One of the two Skunk #1 males is now hitting the lights, but males flower fast, typically under 25 days so it's easy enough to manage the height.
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This male I have stays short and squat but builds up like a little pitbull he's so damn stinky too I am anxious to cross him. So I could flower out three different girls and just paint pollen on a branch of each and then in one run get flowers and seeds? Is this what you're saying? Vs open pollination? I was planning to just let him do his thing with 2-3 girls in the tent............then I have for me and to share............
 
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I have about 20 seeds I wish I could pop. They are like 7 years old, which I got from an open pollenation of a mixed seed pack from Peak. Hard telling what might be in there. It was a baggie I found that I had randomly named T3...haha. I bought some gibberellic acid, came with no instructions or measuring spoon, and the sellers warehouse burned and making contact has been fruitless. I tried an H202 soak, and lightly sanded shells on 4 with no luck.
 
Underground Scientist

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GroErr said:
Typically at the 3 week mark, a couple of days earlier if it's an early finishing pheno and the buds are developed enough. You need them to develop enough hairs to paint the buds, and you want around 4.5+ weeks to develop the seeds into nice fatties after pollination, 5-6 weeks to mature is better. My 8 week Blue Ripper's always make nice dark fatties and I usually hit them at 3 weeks.
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Thanks, I've been wondering this
 
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Evil-Mobo said:
This male I have stays short and squat but builds up like a little pitbull he's so damn stinky too I am anxious to cross him. So I could flower out three different girls and just paint pollen on a branch of each and then in one run get flowers and seeds? Is this what you're saying? Vs open pollination? I was planning to just let him do his thing with 2-3 girls in the tent............then I have for me and to share............
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Yeah exactly, that's typically what I do, some runs I hit more than others but almost always have at least one or two plants in the flower room with a branch pollinated. Right now the 3x Panama phenos I have in there have a branch seeded. The one tall lanky one had no training and was open pollinated in my breeding tent just because it was available and I wanted to make sure I had some backup seeds in case I didn't pull a decent pheno from the first pack. The only one's I'll likely run again later are from the keeper pheno, I just pollinated all 3 to make sure I had seeds from whichever one ended up the best. You never know 100% going into flowering which one will stand out so I covered all my bases.
 
Evil-Mobo

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GroErr said:
Yeah exactly, that's typically what I do, some runs I hit more than others but almost always have at least one or two plants in the flower room with a branch pollinated. Right now the 3x Panama phenos I have in there have a branch seeded. The one tall lanky one had no training and was open pollinated in my breeding tent just because it was available and I wanted to make sure I had some backup seeds in case I didn't pull a decent pheno from the first pack. The only one's I'll likely run again later are from the keeper pheno, I just pollinated all 3 to make sure I had seeds from whichever one ended up the best. You never know 100% going into flowering which one will stand out so I covered all my bases.
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Sweet if it's ok as this run gets closer for me I will bug you for some info, never done it before and don't want to screw it up...........
 
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