greenghost420
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nice n frosty! that lec light covers 3X3 OR MORE?
GroErr Grows...
giggles26
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I gotta hide them from myself to lol.Does look like that, sounds like your wife might get into those chocolates, better put them under lock & key
GroErr
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It covers 3x3 really well but I'm going to stretch it closer to 3.5x3.5 or 3x4 next round, about 3ft plants after the stretch. See what it can do in a larger footprint with a good producing strain, have 4x nice Blue Dream plants in 5gal fabrics going in this week. Based on what I've tried/seen under these so far, filling a 3.5 x 3.5 with 36" plants will likely produce the most. That JTR I just pulled has decent size buds until about 36" - 38" from the light, then it drops off to popcorn below that. I've done shorter 3 Gal plants and they produce Ok for 3 gal but you're leaving a lot of light not being used with shorter plants.
GroErr
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Here are the numbers for that 3 gal 3x3. Just finished trimming the PPP x BB Saturday.
Not huge numbers, but respectable for 3 gal. 2x Harlequin's were a 2nd clone run to make a final pheno cut. Pheno 1 won hands down. Best smell/taste, nice tight buds, and with some training not a bad producer in a 3gal, will run a 5gal down the road and see what it can do. The other two were both the runts from seed in a pheno run for JTR x BB and PPP x BB. The JTR x BB smells like the larger one about to finish and has a strong lemon smell when you break a bud, plus a hashy/sweet smell and taste. The PPP x BB pheno 2 is a total looser in this bunch, smells just like the original PPP which was bland, plus it's the fluffy pheno that I had in PPP even though I crossed it with the more dense pheno - lol.
That's the second 3 gal 3x3 in there. Mentioned above about maximizing these lights. These weren't terrible plants for 3 gal, averaged about 28-30" height but still had a tough time hitting even 1/2 lb. Even taking 4x of the JTR x BB which hit 2,3 oz. I would have pulled a little over 9 oz. max. Pretty sure I'll get that plus some from the 3x 5gal plants. Pushing it out a bit to 3.5 x 3.5, or more likely 3x4 with 4x 5 gal next round should show where the limits are for coverage and yield but the 5gal 3ft plants are the winners I think to maximize the footprint/yield.
JTR x BB, Pheno 2. very nice smoke even with minimal cure, strong punch, more than a couple of hits and you better pull up a couch
Popcorn/Sugar Trim: 15.4g
Buds: 49.4g
Total: 64.8g/2.31 oz.
PPP x BB, Pheno 2. Blah, nothing worth noting for this one, mostly popcorn and fluffy
Popcorn/Sugar Trim: 14.3g
Buds: 23.8g
Total: 38.1g/1.36 oz.
Harlequin Pheno 2. Not a bad pheno but fluffy buds and not quite the taste of the other
Popcorn/Sugar Trim: 9.7g
Buds: 27.3g
Total: 37g/1.32 oz.
Harlequin Pheno 1. This is the keeper with that fruit smoothie smell/taste and likes to grow straight up but took well to super-cropping and FIM’s to produce an acceptable amount for a 3 gal plant. Will run it again in 5gal a couple of rounds down the road.
Popcorn/Sugar Trim: 17.2g
Buds: 42.4g
Total: 59.6g/2.13 oz.
Total Popcorn: 56.6g
Total Bud: 142.9g
Total Weight: 199.5g/7.13 oz.
Cheers
Not huge numbers, but respectable for 3 gal. 2x Harlequin's were a 2nd clone run to make a final pheno cut. Pheno 1 won hands down. Best smell/taste, nice tight buds, and with some training not a bad producer in a 3gal, will run a 5gal down the road and see what it can do. The other two were both the runts from seed in a pheno run for JTR x BB and PPP x BB. The JTR x BB smells like the larger one about to finish and has a strong lemon smell when you break a bud, plus a hashy/sweet smell and taste. The PPP x BB pheno 2 is a total looser in this bunch, smells just like the original PPP which was bland, plus it's the fluffy pheno that I had in PPP even though I crossed it with the more dense pheno - lol.
That's the second 3 gal 3x3 in there. Mentioned above about maximizing these lights. These weren't terrible plants for 3 gal, averaged about 28-30" height but still had a tough time hitting even 1/2 lb. Even taking 4x of the JTR x BB which hit 2,3 oz. I would have pulled a little over 9 oz. max. Pretty sure I'll get that plus some from the 3x 5gal plants. Pushing it out a bit to 3.5 x 3.5, or more likely 3x4 with 4x 5 gal next round should show where the limits are for coverage and yield but the 5gal 3ft plants are the winners I think to maximize the footprint/yield.
JTR x BB, Pheno 2. very nice smoke even with minimal cure, strong punch, more than a couple of hits and you better pull up a couch
Popcorn/Sugar Trim: 15.4g
Buds: 49.4g
Total: 64.8g/2.31 oz.
PPP x BB, Pheno 2. Blah, nothing worth noting for this one, mostly popcorn and fluffy
Popcorn/Sugar Trim: 14.3g
Buds: 23.8g
Total: 38.1g/1.36 oz.
Harlequin Pheno 2. Not a bad pheno but fluffy buds and not quite the taste of the other
Popcorn/Sugar Trim: 9.7g
Buds: 27.3g
Total: 37g/1.32 oz.
Harlequin Pheno 1. This is the keeper with that fruit smoothie smell/taste and likes to grow straight up but took well to super-cropping and FIM’s to produce an acceptable amount for a 3 gal plant. Will run it again in 5gal a couple of rounds down the road.
Popcorn/Sugar Trim: 17.2g
Buds: 42.4g
Total: 59.6g/2.13 oz.
Total Popcorn: 56.6g
Total Bud: 142.9g
Total Weight: 199.5g/7.13 oz.
Cheers
GroErr
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Hey Mo, drying it tends to smell more towards the pinesol at the end and while its wet. When it's cured a couple of weeks it goes sweeter and more lemon when you break up the bud. Always produces sticky hands and biggest pile of finger hash. When giving it a haircut, I try and leave some of it on and take mainly the bigger leaves for drying, there's so much resin it's a shame to loose a bunch of it The JTR finger hash is more gummy/sticky than most strains and smells more towards pinesol. I have a little jar going which has a mix of JTR, Blue Pyramid (best smelling finger hash!), and Blue Dream as they're all sticky when trimming, smells like heaven when you open the jar, I look forward to burping it every day, and it's pretty well perpetual burping as I add to it regularly
Mohican
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Hahaha! I have the same jar! Grade-A sugar leaves only in a half-gallon Ball jar.
Jesus OG, Jilly Bean, Blue Dream, Scott's OG and Ace of Spades.
Smells like fruit loops when I open the jar. I can't wait to make hash with it!
The Jesus OG was so sticky I had to stop trimming the sugar leaves off of the dried buds. My scissors kept sticking shut!
Cheers,
Mo
Jesus OG, Jilly Bean, Blue Dream, Scott's OG and Ace of Spades.
Smells like fruit loops when I open the jar. I can't wait to make hash with it!
The Jesus OG was so sticky I had to stop trimming the sugar leaves off of the dried buds. My scissors kept sticking shut!
Cheers,
Mo
GroErr
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Checked the JTR x BB Pheno 1 and was still a bit wet, good to go. Wow, largest plant I've grown in a 5 gal indoor, only other one that was slightly heavier/bigger was a Blue Dream in a 7 gal a little while back. As big as JTR was, this one dwarfs it in size and weight. Really no popcorn, decent size buds all the way down. This one was about 34" and more like 4 small plants in one, 4 large corner colas with side branches. Won't hazard a guess at the weight but it'll definitely be a qp+ plant
Smells like sweet lemons and a nice layer of frost, a little finger hash reward while giving it a haircut
Smells like sweet lemons and a nice layer of frost, a little finger hash reward while giving it a haircut
GroErr
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That was one of 3 under 1x 315w Sun System, this one, the JTR I pulled a couple of days ago, and tonight the PPP x BB were all under that light in about a 3 x 3.5'. Should be a nice pull for 315w
GroErr
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Thanks and good luck with your grow. These were vegged about 9 weeks, worth the extra veg time if you can wait a bit and have the space. Cheers.
GroErr
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Here's the PPP x Blueberry pheno 1. Large plant, huge main cola, medium density bud pheno so not as much weight as the JTR x BB. What did surprise me was the smell, may be room for this one until I find a better pheno, once it was out of the room and not sitting beside JTR or JTR x BB (both stunk!), there's definitely a blueberry smell to this one, frost was also better than I anticipated. Not as frosty as either of the JTR's but more than the straight up PPP it came from.
It's clear that the weight from these 3x 5gal will go much higher than any 3gal runs I've done in there. Even if I have to wait a week or 2 for veg I'll be doing 5 gal or 7 gal plants under the CMH, well worth the extra effort and time
These will dry and get trimmed throughout the next week, I'll post final weights once they're all dry/trimmed... Quite a haul here, and the 6x 1gal plants in the LED Tent are pretty well ready so the harvest cycle continues later this week.
Cheers
It's clear that the weight from these 3x 5gal will go much higher than any 3gal runs I've done in there. Even if I have to wait a week or 2 for veg I'll be doing 5 gal or 7 gal plants under the CMH, well worth the extra effort and time
These will dry and get trimmed throughout the next week, I'll post final weights once they're all dry/trimmed... Quite a haul here, and the 6x 1gal plants in the LED Tent are pretty well ready so the harvest cycle continues later this week.
Cheers
GroErr
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And an update on the LED Tent @day 56. Almost there, gave them a good watering, will let them dry out for 3-4 days and pull them end of the week. Not looking bad for a bunch of extra clones. Both the Blue Dream and THC Bomb buds are tight/dense and surprisingly productive for a bunch of 1 gal plants. I love these fabric pots for that, I wouldn't expect close to this yield in there if I had used 1 gal plastic pots. Should be interesting to see what numbers come out of there. Have never done 1 gal plants other than a few clones straight into 12/12, these had a couple of weeks veg, a FIM and some super-cropping for the THC Bombs as they were getting too tall going into flowering. You can see the male PPP x BB in a party cup behind the largest BD cola, will post some pics separately for that one.
Group (3x Blue Dream/3x THC Bomb):
Blue Dream:
THC Bomb:
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Group (3x Blue Dream/3x THC Bomb):
Blue Dream:
THC Bomb:
Cheers
GroErr
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Here's that PPP x BB male that was my sole potential entry in the 12/12 from seed party cup comp. Bitter sweet as I had been looking for a male but it knocked me out of the comp
Will just grow this out in the LED tent, it's 12/12 from seed @day 23 so won't take long now to get into full-on flowering. Going to be a good size for a party cup, looks like those fabric liners and patented part cups work Ok
Cheers
Will just grow this out in the LED tent, it's 12/12 from seed @day 23 so won't take long now to get into full-on flowering. Going to be a good size for a party cup, looks like those fabric liners and patented part cups work Ok
Cheers
GroErr
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Thanks Javadog, very happy with that purchase, no problem recommending them. Will be posting the next set tomorrow, just added 4x Blue Dream's in 5gal to see what they can pull in a 3x4 or so. Should be awesome
GroErr
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Update on the flower room. Fresh batch re-loaded on Monday night, this run should be awesome.
The last few months I’ve been doing a lot of strain and pheno hunts and trying different configurations under the LEC’s in there.
This round is a combo of some dank triple-bag Blue Pyramid, and a last run of THC Bomb in one 3x3 @day 15, not expecting more than ½ lb for these, if I can get 2.5 zips each from the BP’s I’d be pleased. The second batch @Day1 below is a numbers run to see where the limits are for these LEC’s, not something I’d usually run - all one strain. I want to see what they can pull if I were growing for numbers. The BD footprint should end up somewhere around 3.5x3.5 or more likely 3x4’ the way they’re configured.
I'll be adding some 730nm LED's to come on for 10 min at the end of the cycle, they should arrive in less than 2 weeks, went with a 36" BML bar which should cover the room well. Will also have the 65w of 630/660 nm LED's on 10 minutes prior to the main lights coming on, these will run until the end of the cycle. The main lights will run 12.5 hours making the overall cycle close to 13 hours.
Looking for ~200-220g from the Blue Pyramid/THC Bomb run and targeting 1lb from the 4x BD’s which combined would break the 1 gpw between 2x 315w Elite Agro’s. Let’s see what they can do!
Some group shots, first pic shows the view going into the room, the BD’s are first @day 1, the stretched BP’s/THCB are behind them. The BD’s have had 4 days @14/10 so they’re beginning to stretch, they should all end up close to the same height at ~34-36” from the soil.
Top view of the Blue Dream’s:
Blue Pyramid:
THC Bomb:
Cheers
The last few months I’ve been doing a lot of strain and pheno hunts and trying different configurations under the LEC’s in there.
This round is a combo of some dank triple-bag Blue Pyramid, and a last run of THC Bomb in one 3x3 @day 15, not expecting more than ½ lb for these, if I can get 2.5 zips each from the BP’s I’d be pleased. The second batch @Day1 below is a numbers run to see where the limits are for these LEC’s, not something I’d usually run - all one strain. I want to see what they can pull if I were growing for numbers. The BD footprint should end up somewhere around 3.5x3.5 or more likely 3x4’ the way they’re configured.
I'll be adding some 730nm LED's to come on for 10 min at the end of the cycle, they should arrive in less than 2 weeks, went with a 36" BML bar which should cover the room well. Will also have the 65w of 630/660 nm LED's on 10 minutes prior to the main lights coming on, these will run until the end of the cycle. The main lights will run 12.5 hours making the overall cycle close to 13 hours.
Looking for ~200-220g from the Blue Pyramid/THC Bomb run and targeting 1lb from the 4x BD’s which combined would break the 1 gpw between 2x 315w Elite Agro’s. Let’s see what they can do!
Some group shots, first pic shows the view going into the room, the BD’s are first @day 1, the stretched BP’s/THCB are behind them. The BD’s have had 4 days @14/10 so they’re beginning to stretch, they should all end up close to the same height at ~34-36” from the soil.
Top view of the Blue Dream’s:
Blue Pyramid:
THC Bomb:
Cheers