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GroErr
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Sounds like a good oneI've got some really nice Harlequin x Maui stud juice
I'm liking these Harlequin's I'm running, good idea. Want to pop a good male from those DIY seeds and cross them with a fem DIY before I cross them again. Just have to wait for some room to start popping more seeds, have a lot of clones on the go and in the cloner right now. It's pretty well a full house right now, just took this snapshot below, all rooms are running pretty well full tilt, I'm likin' it 
Top-left, Veg Cabinet. Bottom is a JTR that spreads across the width of the cabinet now, when I do some clean-up/culling in there it'll go to a 7Gal to flower about 5 weeks out. Above it are the 2x DIY strains that look like fems, will flower them with the 2x Harlequin clones on the other side of the cabinet in about 3 - 3 1/2 weeks.
GroErr
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You doing this artwork on the man's clock again? lol
GroErr
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A closer look at the 3x6, colas are filing in with bud. The smaller 3x3 is Day 28, the larger one's are Day 17 and pretty well done stretching now, filling in with buds very nicely. Spread them out a bit last night as the second 3x3 was needing some elbow room after the stretch. Between them they're taking a full 3x6' now.
The 5Gal plants (Blue Pyramid, Blue Dream, and Jack The Ripper) are looking impressive, all headed for 3-4 zip plants if they continue the way they're going right now.
Not impressed with a couple of the smaller plants in the 3Gal, the Super Skunk and Blue Dream clone in the 3Gal's are spindly/weak, no biggie as I won't be carrying on the SS, nothing special about it. The BD clone was just a bad clone I think as the one coming up in the 5Gal is looking like a 4 zip plant. Other than those, the 2x THC Bomb look good, both almost identical phenos, nothing (smell, bud size/look) standing out about them though so far. Both JTR's in 3Gal will likely outperform all the other's in 3Gal. The regular clone is looking good for a 3Gal pot. The monster crop (flowering) JTR clone is looking awesome and has the most buds and biggest colas in the 3gal 3x3.
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The 5Gal plants (Blue Pyramid, Blue Dream, and Jack The Ripper) are looking impressive, all headed for 3-4 zip plants if they continue the way they're going right now.
Not impressed with a couple of the smaller plants in the 3Gal, the Super Skunk and Blue Dream clone in the 3Gal's are spindly/weak, no biggie as I won't be carrying on the SS, nothing special about it. The BD clone was just a bad clone I think as the one coming up in the 5Gal is looking like a 4 zip plant. Other than those, the 2x THC Bomb look good, both almost identical phenos, nothing (smell, bud size/look) standing out about them though so far. Both JTR's in 3Gal will likely outperform all the other's in 3Gal. The regular clone is looking good for a 3Gal pot. The monster crop (flowering) JTR clone is looking awesome and has the most buds and biggest colas in the 3gal 3x3.
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GroErr
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Some observation on pot size, veg length and output. Unless I'm doing a pheno/strain hunt like the current smaller 3x3 in 3Gal pots, will be going less plants in 5 or 7Gal I think going forward if I can manage the veg space. The 5Gal plants are significantly bigger and stronger with less than 2 weeks difference in veg. I saw a similar increase in output with the Blue Dream in a 7Gal pot last round.
I did a calculation called ounce per week (opw) to apply to this run and calculate the optimal veg times/container size. Taking into consideration the total numbers of weeks in a run, extending veg times and doing larger pots looks better. The 5Gal Blue Dream should give me a baseline against the first one I ran in a 7Gal. Idea is that by simply extending veg times (flowering time remains constant for each strain) and using a larger container should provide better opw. e.g.
Using a baseline/assumption of a Blue Dream getting ~4 zips in a 5Gal pot, vegged 8 weeks
I pulled 7 zips from a 7gal pot, vegged for 11 weeks
Flowering time would be 8 weeks for both, only difference in time is the extended veg time
5Gal = 4 oz. % 16 weeks = .25 oz. per week
7Gal = 7 oz. % 19 weeks = .37 oz. per week
We'll see once this 3Gal/5Gal run is finished but if going for yield, the longer veg + container size is looking like a better option.
I did a calculation called ounce per week (opw) to apply to this run and calculate the optimal veg times/container size. Taking into consideration the total numbers of weeks in a run, extending veg times and doing larger pots looks better. The 5Gal Blue Dream should give me a baseline against the first one I ran in a 7Gal. Idea is that by simply extending veg times (flowering time remains constant for each strain) and using a larger container should provide better opw. e.g.
Using a baseline/assumption of a Blue Dream getting ~4 zips in a 5Gal pot, vegged 8 weeks
I pulled 7 zips from a 7gal pot, vegged for 11 weeks
Flowering time would be 8 weeks for both, only difference in time is the extended veg time
5Gal = 4 oz. % 16 weeks = .25 oz. per week
7Gal = 7 oz. % 19 weeks = .37 oz. per week
We'll see once this 3Gal/5Gal run is finished but if going for yield, the longer veg + container size is looking like a better option.
ayr0n
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Looking damn good in there - how's the smell? Do you filter all 4 of your rooms?A closer look at the 3x6, colas are filing in with bud. The smaller 3x3 is Day 28, the larger one's are Day 17 and pretty well done stretching now, filling in with buds very nicely. Spread them out a bit last night as the second 3x3 was needing some elbow room after the stretch. Between them they're taking a full 3x6' now.
The 5Gal plants (Blue Pyramid, Blue Dream, and Jack The Ripper) are looking impressive, all headed for 3-4 zip plants if they continue the way they're going right now.
Not impressed with a couple of the smaller plants in the 3Gal, the Super Skunk and Blue Dream clone in the 3Gal's are spindly/weak, no biggie as I won't be carrying on the SS, nothing special about it. The BD clone was just a bad clone I think as the one coming up in the 5Gal is looking like a 4 zip plant. Other than those, the 2x THC Bomb look good, both almost identical phenos, nothing (smell, bud size/look) standing out about them though so far. Both JTR's in 3Gal will likely outperform all the other's in 3Gal. The regular clone is looking good for a 3Gal pot. The monster crop (flowering) JTR clone is looking awesome and has the most buds and biggest colas in the 3gal 3x3.
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GroErr
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Thanks Ayr0n, so far so good should be interesting to see what these yield. Flower room is stinking up, I have 2 doors to get into it, have to close the first door before going into the room or it stinks up the basement quick.
Only filter the larger flower room. The veg cabinet doesn't smell and is in front of the main flower room behind a door to the basement. The small seedling cabinet I don't worry about as there's no smell at all.
The tent is an interesting one in that it's under my stairs, well away from the flower room. I just keep a HEPA filter outside the tent, near the exhaust vent for the tent. It has a fan and doubles as a circulation fan for the cloner, to keep air blowing on the clones. Then I have an ONA gel bucket sitting on the floor under the stairs. Between the 2, it keeps any smell from the tent in check.
GroErr
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Update on clones, veg & flower room. Will post a separate update for the Harlequins to get around the 10 pic limit per post.
Clones are coming along well. Will be selecting the best of each strain/pheno to carry on in veg. I have the tent coming available in about 2 weeks, so won't cull any remaining clones. Will just up-pot any extras to 1Gal pots and run them in the tent, along with a couple of DIY seedlings about 4 weeks in that I was going to cull, since I have some time into them and space I'll just flower them in the tent as well, they were up-potted from 1Gal to 2Gal yesterday. Will build a little booster platform for the 1Gal extra clones to keep things somewhat even in height. Based on what I'm seeing in the flower room, cut a couple of more clones from each of the Blue Dream and Blue Pyramid at around the 18 day mark of flowering. If the clone from a flowering JTR is any indication of production these should do well, that JTR flowering clone in the first 3x3 is going to produce very nicely, huge colas with buds filling in about 16" of the 24" colas. The 4x clones at left are straight to soil Blue Dream clones, culled the smallest but 3 of them remain and look like they'll do well now that they're rooted.
Veg Cabinet is filling up quick. There's 2x extra DIY seedlings in there in 2Gal pots now that will run in the tent, they'll be out within 2 weeks the way the Harlequin's are maturing. Balance of 2x DIY in 3Gal and 2x Harlequin clones in 3Gal will go into the flower room when the first 3x3 finishes, about 3 - 3 1/2 weeks or so, they'll have plenty of time to bush out and fill in. The JTR (far-right) in the 3Gal will be up-potted in 2 weeks once I get the first 2 DIY's into the tent, it will veg another 2 weeks after that in a 7Gal and should be a good size by the time it goes into the flower room. Will run it on its own under one of the lights, maybe even the 210w bulb since it'll have plenty of room/light by itself.
Flower Room is looking awesome. Between the 2x 3x3' runs, it's filled in the full 3x6 area under the two LEC units. Day 31 of 12/12 for the first (shorter/3Gal) run, Day 20 for the second. 1st 3x3 is filling in, fattening up and in good shape, no issues there and the plants seem to be responding well at 20-22" below the light. The larger plants in the second run are also filling in nicely at almost 3 weeks, the Blue Dream and Blue Pyramid are looking awesome and will be nice producers based on bud/cola development so far. The JTR in that run is also looking nice, not quite as large but still a 3+ zip plant developing. Some shots of the full room and canopy, couple of sample bud shots, longer one is a nice JTR cola filling in, second is a sample JTR bud from the flowering clone, interesting thing with these flowering clones, the colour of the leaves/pant is much lighter and the bud structure is even different, they smell the same, that's about it.
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Clones are coming along well. Will be selecting the best of each strain/pheno to carry on in veg. I have the tent coming available in about 2 weeks, so won't cull any remaining clones. Will just up-pot any extras to 1Gal pots and run them in the tent, along with a couple of DIY seedlings about 4 weeks in that I was going to cull, since I have some time into them and space I'll just flower them in the tent as well, they were up-potted from 1Gal to 2Gal yesterday. Will build a little booster platform for the 1Gal extra clones to keep things somewhat even in height. Based on what I'm seeing in the flower room, cut a couple of more clones from each of the Blue Dream and Blue Pyramid at around the 18 day mark of flowering. If the clone from a flowering JTR is any indication of production these should do well, that JTR flowering clone in the first 3x3 is going to produce very nicely, huge colas with buds filling in about 16" of the 24" colas. The 4x clones at left are straight to soil Blue Dream clones, culled the smallest but 3 of them remain and look like they'll do well now that they're rooted.
Veg Cabinet is filling up quick. There's 2x extra DIY seedlings in there in 2Gal pots now that will run in the tent, they'll be out within 2 weeks the way the Harlequin's are maturing. Balance of 2x DIY in 3Gal and 2x Harlequin clones in 3Gal will go into the flower room when the first 3x3 finishes, about 3 - 3 1/2 weeks or so, they'll have plenty of time to bush out and fill in. The JTR (far-right) in the 3Gal will be up-potted in 2 weeks once I get the first 2 DIY's into the tent, it will veg another 2 weeks after that in a 7Gal and should be a good size by the time it goes into the flower room. Will run it on its own under one of the lights, maybe even the 210w bulb since it'll have plenty of room/light by itself.
Flower Room is looking awesome. Between the 2x 3x3' runs, it's filled in the full 3x6 area under the two LEC units. Day 31 of 12/12 for the first (shorter/3Gal) run, Day 20 for the second. 1st 3x3 is filling in, fattening up and in good shape, no issues there and the plants seem to be responding well at 20-22" below the light. The larger plants in the second run are also filling in nicely at almost 3 weeks, the Blue Dream and Blue Pyramid are looking awesome and will be nice producers based on bud/cola development so far. The JTR in that run is also looking nice, not quite as large but still a 3+ zip plant developing. Some shots of the full room and canopy, couple of sample bud shots, longer one is a nice JTR cola filling in, second is a sample JTR bud from the flowering clone, interesting thing with these flowering clones, the colour of the leaves/pant is much lighter and the bud structure is even different, they smell the same, that's about it.
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GroErr
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Update on the Harlequin's @day 42/6 weeks of 12/12. Pleasantly surprised here. For 2Gal pots these things are pushing out a lot of bud 
Mentioned the incredible smell coming off a couple of the pheno's (1 & 2), kind of like ripe tropical fruit punch, pheno #2 adds a fuel smell but that has weakened a bit and smelling quite good. If this stuff tastes anything like it smells this is a good find, particularly if it lives up to its 1:1 THC/CBD billing. Very nice and easy to grow strain so far, I'm impressed, should do really well with some training. These just went straight in other than being FIM'd once.
Buds are feeling solid/dense. Looks like this mixed white spectrum between 3000k/4000k LED and some 2700 CFL will replicate the yield/density I saw last round in the tent. Nice yield for a bunch of cheap/DIY LED's, I'm pretty positive now it's the mix of spectrum that's doing it, huge improvement from when I ran just the 3000k LED spot light. It's prompting me to re-think the COB panels I was going to build. Think I'll stick with the 3000k 3070's for 2x 50w, then do 2x 50w of 2700k and 2x 50w of 4000k and see what that can do.
About 2 weeks to go, likely pull on Dec. 18-20th to be dry by Boxing Day, Merry Xmas to me
Cheers
Mentioned the incredible smell coming off a couple of the pheno's (1 & 2), kind of like ripe tropical fruit punch, pheno #2 adds a fuel smell but that has weakened a bit and smelling quite good. If this stuff tastes anything like it smells this is a good find, particularly if it lives up to its 1:1 THC/CBD billing. Very nice and easy to grow strain so far, I'm impressed, should do really well with some training. These just went straight in other than being FIM'd once.
Buds are feeling solid/dense. Looks like this mixed white spectrum between 3000k/4000k LED and some 2700 CFL will replicate the yield/density I saw last round in the tent. Nice yield for a bunch of cheap/DIY LED's, I'm pretty positive now it's the mix of spectrum that's doing it, huge improvement from when I ran just the 3000k LED spot light. It's prompting me to re-think the COB panels I was going to build. Think I'll stick with the 3000k 3070's for 2x 50w, then do 2x 50w of 2700k and 2x 50w of 4000k and see what that can do.
About 2 weeks to go, likely pull on Dec. 18-20th to be dry by Boxing Day, Merry Xmas to me
Cheers
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GroErr
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Forgot to mention this in the veg update. Not that it means anything but I like mutations.
The JTR x Blueberry DIY in the 3Gal pot that will flower out in a few weeks has a strange leaf mutation. The leaves around the main/original cola are all 9-finger. The rest around any other colas are either 7 or 5 finger. Noticed it this past week as I was training them, pretty cool. This JTR x Blueberry cross, although it looks more sativa'sh than the other (PPP x Blueberry), has a strong Blueberry smell to it and an underlying JTR lemon smell, likin' it so far
The JTR x Blueberry DIY in the 3Gal pot that will flower out in a few weeks has a strange leaf mutation. The leaves around the main/original cola are all 9-finger. The rest around any other colas are either 7 or 5 finger. Noticed it this past week as I was training them, pretty cool. This JTR x Blueberry cross, although it looks more sativa'sh than the other (PPP x Blueberry), has a strong Blueberry smell to it and an underlying JTR lemon smell, likin' it so far
GroErr
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Early, I'd say around 3 weeks is when it was noticeable on the one pheno. Haven't had a close look at trichs yet, still about 10-12 days but they're frosting up nicely. Can't wait to try this stuff, hope it tastes like it smells...
GroErr
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I'm liking these too, noticed yours are quite different in colouring, mine were never that dark, they've been lighter green all through the cycles. Think you mentioned yours is crossed though so that would make a big difference.Yea I'm excited for this one
Should be some good meds
giggles26
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Yep these were crossed with a maui. Both phenos are really green but one of them is like a Forrest green.
GroErr
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I've been tracking and trying a few different scenarios with pot sizes, length of veg etc. Trying to come up with a measurement to maximize space/yield from the space/equipment I have. I think this one is simple and captures Grams Per Day (GPD). It takes the total number of days in a cycle (Veg + Flower) and divides it by the yield in grams to give you the GPD number.
Attaching the spreadsheet below (zipped so I could upload it) if anyone wants to use it. You fill in the veg time in weeks, number of plants and estimated yield based on your grow style and results, it spits out the estimated GPD number (higher = better). I could have added a variable field for flowering times but I tend to stick with 8 weeks or less so I just used a fixed 8 week flowering cycle. Adjust it as needed. Cheers.
Attaching the spreadsheet below (zipped so I could upload it) if anyone wants to use it. You fill in the veg time in weeks, number of plants and estimated yield based on your grow style and results, it spits out the estimated GPD number (higher = better). I could have added a variable field for flowering times but I tend to stick with 8 weeks or less so I just used a fixed 8 week flowering cycle. Adjust it as needed. Cheers.
