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GroErr

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Oh, and BEAUTIFUL stacking on those plants! Nice pheno's, and obviously a great set up. I have a run that's at about day 28 and neither of my plants (two different strains) have a tight bud formation like that. Looks like you're doing everything right. :)
Thanks, that's a great pheno, there's 2 in there and both stacking up nicely. It's the one I call the blueberry perfume pheno, very strong fruit/hash smell and taste, great body stone but not a couch lock. Gotta run an extra clone and S1 it.

Good to know, I'm just at the beginning of actually investigating these lights, so I appreciate the heads up.
Yeah, they're definitely better in increments of 3x3, don't think they'd fit well into a 2x4.
 

GroErr

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Shot of the finished 3gal JTR and Blue Ripper 2 pheno. JTR turned out the largest and heaviest. Both have a seeded branch each with what looks to be lots of nice ripe seeds. JTR x Blue Ripper Male (BX) and Blue Ripper x Fireballs male. That JTR pheno is awesome, a couple of years old and still kicking ass, frostiest buds in the garden :D

JTR:

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Blue Ripper 2:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Got those Breeder's Boutique DOG and Fireballs into the veg tent. They were getting very crowded in the veg cabinet, they'll have some elbow room to spread out in there now. Haven't 100% sexed yet but right now they're all looking like fems, awesome as 1 of each are smelling very dankish in veg, good sign for potential breeding stock ;) Will let them sex in the 1gal pots and up-pot once they're confirmed.

Built one test SIP to see if the fabric pots will wick with this design. It's a 3.5gal bucket and holding about 3gal's. The 10" netpot lid plus a 3" attached at the bottom go within 1" or so of the bottom of the bucket so lots of water available. Filled both netpots with rockwool as the wick. Waiting for some proper trays for the plants to sit in but temporarily used a 5gal pot catch tray and drilled a bunch of holes in it. The bottom of the tray sits on top of the rockwool an the weight of the pot itself lets the bottom of the tray touch/sit on the rockwool. We'll see how it works, won't water that one for a week and keep an eye on it. I may need to drill bigger holes in the tray to allow the roots to go through.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Sip looks good brother.

Have you smoked the Dog or Fireballs before?

I am going to pop some Bob's seeds for run #3 and deciding between those two strains as that's what I ordered?
Thanks Evil, haven't smoked either but should find a decent pheno of each from the veg tent run. There's some nice smells coming off one of each when I rub the stems.

I have one Fireballs fem in the flower room but it's not looking great as a keeper. Was never intended as a keeper as the structure or smell isn't great but I had the space so ran it anyhow. It's showing some signs of PM so I sprayed it to see if that helps keep it in check. I wouldn't keep it just for that reason. The good news is that the DOGs and Fireballs in the tent now were packed tight in my veg cabinet with RH hitting as high as 70% and no signs of PM on any of them.
 

Pig4buzz

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You'll get Ok coverage in the 2x4', kind of an odd space for these though as they cover 3x3' really well, the Sun Systems can cover up to 3.5'x3.5' if you're around 24" above the canopy. Since you mentioned you're already having to deal with heat, and the space is 2x4', I'd favour COBs over CMH in that space. In a 3x3' (up to 1 metre sq.) space I'd favour 1x 315w hooded unit.
So 2x4 or 3x3 tent height should be min 6'?
 

Mineralz

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So 2x4 or 3x3 tent height should be min 6'?
I would say yes. I rock 6' ceilings and I still have to LST/Supercrop. Depends on how experienced you are with your strains and training methods. You have to take the stretch/veg time into consideration as well so some sort of training is recommended, especially if you have lumens-per-square-foot-plus. You could expect faster growth I would think so you'd have to be on point with plant count vs. size of those plants. Just meh 2-cents
 

GroErr

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So 2x4 or 3x3 tent height should be min 6'?
Yeah I'd agree on 6ft. minimum, 7' if you can get one. They throw off a bit more heat so the higher the tent, the better you can dissipate heat. Plus some allowance for overhead as already mentioned would allow larger plants.
 

GroErr

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2x 3gal Blue Ripper's finally going outdoor this weekend. Too busy last weekend and this week to do anything with them and they've overstayed their welcome in that 2x2 tent. The top canopy was touching the lights and the undergrowth is spindly since no light was getting down there. Will take a week or two to get them back in shape now but a good head start going into the 15gal fabrics.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Next flowering (Breeders's Boutique) round looking like 5 fems! 2x Fireballs left and 3x DOG right. Comfortable enough that they're fems to up-pot to 3gal's now and give them a little training. They'll flower out in ~3 weeks. A couple of very smelly phenos in there so looking forward to this round :)

SIP far-right seems to be keeping that DOG going alright, looks like I may get a week out of those 3.5gal bucket SIPs. It's sitting on top of the rock-wool and sucking up what it needs which is all I want out of these SIPs. Next will have to figure out a way to test the 5gal's in flower to see how long they can last. Biggest challenge without running all SIP's will be trying to keep a somewhat even canopy. They take so much overhead in height I can't see running them full time. But if they keep the plants going for a week I'd just have a bunch sitting around and bring them out if I'm going to be away for a few days.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

Pig4buzz

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Yeah I'd agree on 6ft. minimum, 7' if you can get one. They throw off a bit more heat so the higher the tent, the better you can dissipate heat. Plus some allowance for overhead as already mentioned would allow larger plants.
Well the 2x4 gorilla extends to 5.5'. Think that would work. I want a good tent, with quality equipment in it. Less noise smell the better.
 

GroErr

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Well the 2x4 gorilla extends to 5.5'. Think that would work. I want a good tent, with quality equipment in it. Less noise smell the better.
You're on the right track, quality equipment is good all around, less hassles to focus on the grow. You should be Ok but you'll need to keep the light as high as possible and even then you'll be limited to 2ft plants or so. That's the other catch with height, you can't really take full advantage of the lights (yield) if the plants are less than 3ft. from the soil. If you're not concerned about maximum yield 2ft. plants are fine and can yield a decent amount of bud trained or scrogged. If you already have it give it a go and you can always go bigger later.

Edit: I'll be trying to fit my spare LEC into my 2x4x5' tent. For veg only so height shouldn't be a problem, just not sure how the heat will be.
 

Pig4buzz

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