GroErr Grows...

ttystikk said:

If it's an unfamiliar strain then you have nothing to benchmark. IME, COB LED grows plants like crazy in veg and through stretch.

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Exaclty. No bench mark. So thought i would ask just in general....

This strain didnt seem all that different than any other hybred in veg under HPS. But in the first week of flower under HPS...she started to stretch faster than most hybreds ive done... seemed even faster in week 2 under COB, but, not knowing the strain.....

Anyway, kind of excited running blind here. Cant wait to see how/what these girls produce...

Gquebed said:

@GroErr

Say... got another COB question for ya.... do the COBs have a lesser or greater effect on stretch?

Like i have mentioned, i am growing a new strain which has not turned out to be what i thought. I have no idea except that they are most definately sativa dom. The girls are stretching like crazy... and i dont know if it is due to genes or cobs or a combo of both. They went from 28" to 41" in 7 days under the COBs.

And lucky i got those cobs when i did because they bought me 2' of headspace that i totally needed. Evidently. Lol

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Compared to my CMH they're stretching a bit less but for some reason switching from blurples in veg to CMH stretched a lot compared to any other lights I've run. I actually prefer a good stretch because the plants vegged under blurples come in with very tight nodes so it helps to open them up.

Last round I had them go from about 26-28" to 4ft under CMH. That extra head room would have come in handy under the COBs, probably a 8-10" gain in height vs. the CMH fixture.

I dont mind a good stretch either, if im prepared for it....lol

I should say... my 2' gain in headspace includes that 12" or so that you gain from not having to keep such a great distance from the 1000w hps. Going from 22-26" down to 12" made all the difference in this case.

But if the stretch continues much more ima gonna have to tie the mains down a bit...

GroErr said:

Compared to my CMH they're stretching a bit less but for some reason switching from blurples in veg to CMH stretched a lot compared to any other lights I've run. I actually prefer a good stretch because the plants vegged under blurples come in with very tight nodes so it helps to open them up.

Last round I had them go from about 26-28" to 4ft under CMH. That extra head room would have come in handy under the COBs, probably a 8-10" gain in height vs. the CMH fixture.

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Gquebed said:

I dont mind a good stretch either, if im prepared for it....lol

I should say... my 2' gain in headspace includes that 12" or so that you gain from not having to keep such a great distance from the 1000w hps. Going from 22-26" down to 12" made all the difference in this case.

But if the stretch continues much more ima gonna have to tie the mains down a bit...

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True, accounting for running the CMH 20-22" above canopy gains another 6-8" there with the COBs plus the fixture so it's quite a gain in head space. Sounds like you're going to have some nice monsters, a little bending if needed won't hurt.

I ran that Blue Pyramid recently and P1 is a keeper, tangerine hash smell and taste comes through even after some cure. Pulled early to reset the room so she was probably a week early but still has a decent kick. I think I posted a pic during that grow of a mutant leaf colouring. Here's her clone, mutation came through, just like the Blue Dream does.



These seeds are Blue Ripper x Harlequin Tri-leaf Male x Blue Ripper x Harlequin Female that I pulled from that same run. Not sure if they're light coloured because they were early or just the way they turned out. They seem mature enough, good size and passed a thumb roll test. Only reason I chucked these was to see if the male passes on the tri-leaf mutation. Will let them cure for another 3 weeks or so and pop a bunch in 2 oz. cups just to see if the mutation comes through. I now have a tri-leaf female so will hit that as soon as the clone is large enough to flower and test that, chances are likely better with male + female tri-leaf mutants I'd think.



Cheers

I have that pattern on my NYCD. Seemed to grow fine.

(reminds me of variegated)

The beans do look very green, but that will turn as they age, I am sure.

Javadog said:

I have that pattern on my NYCD. Seemed to grow fine.

(reminds me of variegated)

The beans do look very green, but that will turn as they age, I am sure.

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Oh yeah the plant had no issues, quite vigorous for this strain compared to the previous pheno I had. It seems like a pretty common mutation but no effects on the plant imo.

Cheers JD, those seeds look a little light but normal otherwise, not a biggie. I was a bit surprised I got any that looked somewhat viable since I pulled them early. The one's I really want to test will be the tri-male x tri-female. If other mutations like that leaf discolouration get passed on there's no reason imo that the tri-leaf seedling mutation can be passed through, specially with both parents having it.

This Blue Ripper x Blue Dream pheno is looking and smelling very dank, Day 33 and will likely go 60'sh days



Cheers

Busy week but the flower room is full again after a bit of a slow down through summer. I'm away for at least a week after Xmas to visit my brother and sister in FL so I'm flowering out the last run to finish just before I leave. That way all I'll have going for the week away will be some veg plants and clones which should be more manageable.

I added the 2x Tasty T2-1400 (red version with 3x 3590's each @150w each) to the room yesterday. Running a total of 5 Tasty 3590 bars @1.4A pulling 600w total, over approx. 3x7' once these new one's fill in.

New run is just a mix of stuff, in 2gal's a nice pheno from seed of the Blue Ripper x Harlequin F1's, 1x Blue Ripper F3/P3 keeper, 1x Blue Ripper F2/P5 keeper (both of these will get crossed back to the F1 male in a couple of days). Then 4x 1gal BPP F2s that were transferred from party cups to 1gal yesterday (look a little rough as they were in party cups for quite a while). This is a cross I tried of Blueberry x PPP, the PPP was a great producer but lacked smell/taste. This is probably the last hunt through these and the smallest pheno is smelling pretty good, if it doesn't cut it then will drop this line as I've run probably 30 of them and haven't found anything worthy of carrying on.

Temps are 79-80 and 54-56 RH so it looks quite manageable, sample of last nights temps/RH during lights-on. I can drop that RH a bit easily as the incoming air controller is at it's lowest setting right now:
Timestamp Ambient Temp (F) Humidity %
10/29/2016 6:06 79.9 54
10/29/2016 5:51 79.9 54
10/29/2016 5:36 79.7 55
10/29/2016 5:21 79.6 55
10/29/2016 5:06 79.6 55
10/29/2016 4:51 79.4 55
10/29/2016 4:35 79.3 56
10/29/2016 4:20 79.3 56
10/29/2016 4:05 79.2 56
10/29/2016 3:50 79.2 56
10/29/2016 3:35 79.2 56
10/29/2016 3:20 79.2 56
10/29/2016 3:05 79.1 56
10/29/2016 2:50 79.1 56
10/29/2016 2:35 79.1 56
10/29/2016 2:20 79.1 56
10/29/2016 2:05 79.2 56
10/29/2016 1:50 79.2 56
10/29/2016 1:35 79.2 56
10/29/2016 1:20 79.2 56
10/29/2016 1:05 79.2 56
10/29/2016 0:50 79.2 55
10/29/2016 0:35 79.3 55
10/29/2016 0:20 79.3 55

Group shots and shot showing the COBs, Day 0, Day 18, and Day 33, couple of strains/phenos in there
That frosty bud above is from the BR x BD P1 in the last pic where I tagged them all.





Cheers

Wow, talk about dialled in and rock solid.

That could be my list if the range was 78-80F. Exact same RH...

Love the Tasty COBS so far. In fact, now I want more...lol

Gquebed said:

Wow, talk about dialled in and rock solid.

That could be my list if the range was 78-80F. Exact same RH...

Love the Tasty COBS so far. In fact, now I want more...lol

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Ha, hooked on COBs already Liking the initial numbers for sure, have the incoming air at lowest and exhaust at 1/2 so lots of room to make adjustments as the weather changes.

Mega dialed!
Can't wait to see what your Plemon does.
I had that same leaf coloring on the mystery screen room plant.

Last year for Xmas we had Goose stuffed with oranges. It was like a giant orange duck! Way better than a Turkey.

Cheers,
Mo

Mohican said:

Mega dialed!
Can't wait to see what your Plemon does.
I had that same leaf coloring on the mystery screen room plant.

Last year for Xmas we had Goose stuffed with oranges. It was like a giant orange duck! Way better than a Turkey.

Cheers,
Mo

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Hey Mo, hope all's well down your way. Lol, that was easy with the 600w of COBs, hit the mark first night. Perfect amount of light for the space and I can flower pretty well every available inch if I can feed it I couldn't wait to run that Plemon from clone with a little training, got the dirt/hash pheno and rationing out what I have until this one finishes. Beautiful plant to grow, love the bud structure and density once it hit about 5 weeks. I want that purple pheno though

Sounds tasty, but we're going to have to start outfitting our geese with Kevlar vests before they head down south

Did you see the Plemon @doublejj and his crew grew outdoors?

Mohican said:

Did you see the Plemon @doublejj and his crew grew outdoors?

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Just saw it, wow, he grows some awesome trees!

Looking good in there G! Looks pretty dialed in huh like auto pilot. I am VERY pleased so far with how my 5K COB's are doing in veg. Can't wait to see my first flower run under the 3K's and my first auto's under the 5K's........

Hope all is well, how's the boy's grow?

Hey thanks Evil, the room was built for those COBs Want to see you get a run under those as well,, auto's under the 5k's will be interesting, they should do well. Son's on auto pilot too, he's consistently pulling 1.5 gpw+ with the LEC's and my Blue Ripper sat-dom pheno. He's liking the COB results though, saw some drooling going on when I pulled my last COB run

GroErr said:

Hey thanks Evil, the room was built for those COBs Want to see you get a run under those as well,, auto's under the 5k's will be interesting, they should do well. Son's on auto pilot too, he's consistently pulling 1.5 gpw+ with the LEC's and my Blue Ripper sat-dom pheno. He's liking the COB results though, saw some drooling going on when I pulled my last COB run

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It's a matter of time before he follows daddy's foot steps. I am still interested in your results with the COB's AND the LEC's together. I might grab another 315 CMH later we will see. It was a very nice and easy light to work with. I think one in the middle of the 5x9 flanked by two (4) COB bars on each side would be a good setup............

Evil-Mobo said:

It's a matter of time before he follows daddy's foot steps. I am still interested in your results with the COB's AND the LEC's together. I might grab another 315 CMH later we will see. It was a very nice and easy light to work with. I think one in the middle of the 5x9 flanked by two (4) COB bars on each side would be a good setup............

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Yeah will get back to trying that mid winter so there's no issues with high temps, should be a good combo.

Hadn't noticed the one pheno of Blue Ripper x Blue Dream until last night when I was watering. It has 11 finger leaves which I haven't seen for a while. The 2 starters at the stem are overlapped/crossed and tiny. Leaf serrations are almost identical to the HSO BD.



Cheers