Grow 1: Day 1, 4xGirl Scout Cookies, 2x240w blackstar LED, 1closet=WE WILL FIND OUT!!

looking good. Ran girl scout and got bless with seeds from 3 killer strains after my gsc let out nanner. Will be watching. There is a thread on gsc if you want to know about it. If you like gsc you have to get cherry pie.

natro.hydro said:

Im at work atm but will try to give a better reply when i get home. from looking at the pics on my phone. not the best way to view mind you so this diagnosis might be a lil off hence y i say i will try to help when i get home. R u using distilled water? If so you may have tto start supplementing calcium and magnesium although it does not look like mg. i would think a nute prob since leaf tips r not curled up so do some research on deficincies in the mean time till i can offer a lil more help
EDIT: K so I got off work (12 hours is a bitch) and looked at the photos on my tv. Side note, if you have a laptop and a flatscreen get an HDMI cord and hook that shit up you will not regret it. Any ways back to the pressing matter, threw it up on the big screen and looks like the late stages of P deficiency to me amigo. But that of course my opinion. But you did say the spots were dark before they died right? Try giving them some stand alone P bloom fert of some sorts. It is def not an overdose so if all you have is 1-3-2 or some shit it def won't hurt.

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No no Distilled water, just tap.Ty both of you for help. Yah i was doing research and figured it was either pho or cal def. but i dont get it, how am i getting a def if FFOF is 'FILLED' with nutes? no need for feeding for a month?

so wtf?????? why do i need to feed????

Bakatare666 said:

WOW!
Even though you're in FF, I think that's a P deficiency.
That's how one of my last ones looked when she got P lockout from being out in the 40 degree weather.
It may be time to start feeding.

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How do i feed it just P? and how much? basically today i am ready for a watering so if i could feed them today that would be wonderful!! And honestly how am i having a def , if FFOF is so "hot"???

THanks guys once again.

209 Cali closet grower said:

looking good. Ran girl scout and got bless with seeds from 3 killer strains after my gsc let out nanner. Will be watching. There is a thread on gsc if you want to know about it. If you like gsc you have to get cherry pie.

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Shit i hope my babies arent male!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yah ive been spying here and there on it , Cherry pie is what turned me to gsc loved it. most likely will try some later on

Ghettobird209 said:

No no Distilled water, just tap.Ty both of you for help. Yah i was doing research and figured it was either pho or cal def. but i dont get it, how am i getting a def if FFOF is 'FILLED' with nutes? no need for feeding for a month?

so wtf?????? why do i need to feed????


How do i feed it just P? and how much? basically today i am ready for a watering so if i could feed them today that would be wonderful!! And honestly how am i having a def , if FFOF is so "hot"???

THanks guys once again.

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Do you have some nutes?
If so, what is the NPK?
You should be able to give them a gentle shot of something with all 3 elements, since you're at 3 weeks........
I think they're strong enough to handle it.
The blackening probably won't stop for a couple days, but your new growth should look normal.

Bakatare666 said:

Do you have some nutes?
If so, what is the NPK?
You should be able to give them a gentle shot of something with all 3 elements, since you're at 3 weeks........
I think they're strong enough to handle it.
The blackening probably won't stop for a couple days, but your new growth should look normal.

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Have no nutes at all. Help bakatare!!! my hydro store closes at 3! What should i buy? Remember im in full FFOF, at first day of week three (15) and need to water later tonight.

What do i need? please help. What will be at my hydro store? thanks!

I couldn't tell ya man, I don't have a store near me.
I would get something with N in it to feed while you finish vegging, and a few weeks into flower.
Maybe something with a balanced NPK ratio, not too strong, but not too weak so that you have to use a lot later on.

Would fox farm big bloom be ok? And what kind of ratio do I look for?

Something like a 10-10-10 or something close, (doesn't have to be exact) for veg, but anything that says bloom will be better for flowering, usually something like 5-10-10, you know-less N, and more P and K.

Big bloom would probably work but not as quickly as a chem fert *I do not like saying that but imo it is true chem ferts are more accesible to the plant quicker since there is no food breakdown needed, none the less organics is said to taste better, I am getting ready to make the switch now* LOL baka that is the same chart I was looking at to help him because I am not the most skilled with deficiencies. A pure speculation on my part is that since those clones do not look the greatest (not your fault) that maybe the mother was underfed and that is why you are experiencing all of these deficincies? just a theory, and FFof has guano and some lime in it I think but can in no way take a plant to harvest. It really is strain dependent more than anyhing because some like it heavy and some will burn at the slight overdose. Since you do have a hydro store try looking for Humbolt Nutes Bloom 0-10-0 it is a pretty strong organic stand alone p nute. I have not tried it but have heard of people using it as a p supplement more in flower than in veg but you get the idea. The reason I say big bloom won't react quickly is it is .01 .3 .7 so atleast you know you won't be overdosing them on N.
Sorry if you read this after getting to the shop and I was of no help but had to catch some z's. Oh and after reading the above post I forgot you have no nutes as of now. I would recommend FF just since you are using the soil and I have never had a problem with them. But the Humboldt Nutes product will def take care of that P problem so it may be a good idea to keep some of that around.

Oh and what the hell kind of hydro shop closes at 3??? I could see 4-5 for a 4 20 break lol but 3 on a weekday? when the hell are people supposed to buy supplies, on their lunch hour? place close to me does not close till 7 on weekdays, earlier on weekends for some reason.

Checked there hours I was looking at Sunday times haha they close at 6

Still haven't made it to the store, but so you guys are saying just look for a ratio with less N and higher p and k correct? Damn so there is no ff for veg?

Ghettobird209 said:

Checked there hours I was looking at Sunday times haha they close at 6

Still haven't made it to the store, but so you guys are saying just look for a ratio with less N and higher p and k correct? Damn so there is no ff for veg?

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For bloom, yes.

just use Fox farm tiger bllom and grow big, I never used big bloom that much with my feedings

Ghettobird209 said:

Shit i hope my babies arent male!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yah ive been spying here and there on it , Cherry pie is what turned me to gsc loved it. most likely will try some later on

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No it was a girl, but I got some seeds because of it. But I'm glad as the other strains where, Bany L.S.D, I.f-pink buds<--- So I was happy to find some seeds in my buds. Now I';m growing out the Gsc x lsd. The I.f, I'll wait, as I got a lot of strains going right now

Shit well didnt make it to the Hydro store Im really pissed off cuz i need nutes and i needa water, well gotta wait another 12hrs till the morning. I just want my babies to survive!!!! So im thinking i guess im going to buy some tiger bloom?? the npk ratio is 2-8-4? idk... Shit i thought now for a second bakatare was saying a even ratio like 5-5-5 or 10-10-10? now im confused again hahaa

Wait just looked back. I need a even ratio of the N with p&k in veg huh????? then in flower less Nitrogen correct?

Fox farm Grow big looks to be what i need with a N-P-K of 6-4-4

Ghettobird209 said:

Wait just looked back. I need a even ratio of the N with p&k in veg huh????? then in flower less Nitrogen correct?

Fox farm Grow big looks to be what i need with a N-P-K of 6-4-4

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That would be for veg and into flower, then the higher P and K for flower to finish.

Ghettobird209 said:

Shit well didnt make it to the Hydro store Im really pissed off cuz i need nutes and i needa water, well gotta wait another 12hrs till the morning. I just want my babies to survive!!!! So im thinking i guess im going to buy some tiger bloom?? the npk ratio is 2-8-4? idk... Shit i thought now for a second bakatare was saying a even ratio like 5-5-5 or 10-10-10? now im confused again hahaa

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Just find something that will work for you. Plants don't go by numbers, just use more veg nuts in veg and use more bloom in flower, just make sue to keep the plants green till te very last week. I still use a high n in floower too

So went ahead and grabbed both Fox farms Grow big & Tiger bloom(tiger bloom for in a couple weeks with flowering). So reading how much to give it the grow big it says for a light feeding 3 teaspoons for a heavy 4. which one should i do? i was thinking heavy cuz how bad they are? or is it the opposite cuz of how weak they need to be lightly adjusted with nutes?? let me know pls bout to water them and need a little help Also i water about a little under a half a gallon each plant , so im guessing ill give it about 2 teaspoons if i do heavy? and do 1-1/2 teaspoons if i do light? (because im only watering with half the amount of water they use i'll use half the dosage as well)

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