Grow Room Floorplans. Here to help.

kamie said:
the room is 13ft long, 10 ft wide, 9 ft high. the ceiling is actually higher. i have a center beam
the window is on the long wall and its about 6.5 x 4 ft
i plan on using 6 lights
SOG
ill be using sunshine 4
8 in. hoods using a 10 in vortex to air it out. I was thinking of using the 8 in magnum xxxl's. i wanted to know what you thought about the 8in luxors?
no a/c so i will be doing air in from the window and air out through the wall. what size fans do you recommend? i was told to use 10 in air in and 12 in air out. what do you think?
i will be having the ballasts inside the room as well.

thanks phillip
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Working on it now Kamie. I'll have something for you later or tomorrow.
 
I honestly don't know how long I'll grow here and the carpet is in pretty good shape. If I don't have to seccure it to the floor I won't.

I understand the risks with mold, pollen, dust etc. I'll have enough panda film left over to cover the floor 3 times.

I own and live in this house, at least the bank owns it. However, I'm considering a move in the future and this house would become a rental. I need the option to disassemble because it's prime living space.

As far as grow style? I'm only a 3 year grower so I'm just now getting through all the styles. I've tried almost everything. I have not grown SOG or vertical yet. I will probably always grow some form of DWC or Aero in half the room and Coco or soil in the other half.

Current equipment list to follow....
 
Sencha said:
I honestly don't know how long I'll grow here and the carpet is in pretty good shape. If I don't have to seccure it to the floor I won't.

I understand the risks with mold, pollen, dust etc. I'll have enough panda film left over to cover the floor 3 times.

I own and live in this house, at least the bank owns it. However, I'm considering a move in the future and this house would become a rental. I need the option to disassemble because it's prime living space.

As far as grow style? I'm only a 3 year grower so I'm just now getting through all the styles. I've tried almost everything. I have not grown SOG or vertical yet. I will probably always grow some form of DWC or Aero in half the room and Coco or soil in the other half.

Current equipment list to follow....
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I would try and secure it to the floor. I understand that you don't want to devalue your home by ripping up carpet in a corner of your room. If you can, then at least build a floating floor. If you lay down panda film over that carpet for a few years it's gonna be discolored anyway. If it's in your budget you frame out a floor with 2x2's. Lay it down and fasten it to your exterior walls. Then you could just lay plywood across the top of it and panda or linoleum on top of that. Would help keep your room cool too because you would have airflow underneath.
 
Carpet is easy to pull up and roll it up and store it! Then when your done just lay it back down kick stretch it and tac it.
Cheaper to store than distroy!
 
Carpet is easy to pull up and roll it up and store it! Then when your done just lay it back down kick stretch it and tac it.
Cheaper to store than distroy!
 
phillipchristian said:
I would try and secure it to the floor. I understand that you don't want to devalue your home by ripping up carpet in a corner of your room. If you can, then at least build a floating floor. If you lay down panda film over that carpet for a few years it's gonna be discolored anyway. If it's in your budget you frame out a floor with 2x2's. Lay it down and fasten it to your exterior walls. Then you could just lay plywood across the top of it and panda or linoleum on top of that. Would help keep your room cool too because you would have airflow underneath.
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I like the raised idea. I'll have to consider it. 4- 4.5' x 4.5' squares that latch in the center would be portable enough as well. Cost is the only issue I guess.
 
Sencha said:
I like the raised idea. I'll have to consider it. 4- 4.5' x 4.5' squares that latch in the center would be portable enough as well. Cost is the only issue I guess.
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You wouldn't lose too much vertical space if you did the framing of the floor in 2x2's and used 1/2" plywood.
 
kamie said:
phillipchristian said:
I need to know:

the room is 13ft long, 10 ft wide, 9 ft high. the ceiling is actually higher. i have a center beam
the window is on the long wall and its about 6.5 x 4 ft
i plan on using 6 lights
SOG
ill be using sunshine 4
8 in. hoods using a 10 in vortex to air it out. I was thinking of using the 8 in magnum xxxl's. i wanted to know what you thought about the 8in luxors?
no a/c so i will be doing air in from the window and air out through the wall. what size fans do you recommend? i was told to use 10 in air in and 12 in air out. what do you think?
i will be having the ballasts inside the room as well.

thanks phillip
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Just some quick questions Kamie.

What size are your ballasts?
How are you going to have 6 ballast, bulbs, etc.. in a room with no a/c?
Are you adding anything to your Sunshine? I add 20% worm castings and a tablespoon of dolmite lime per gallon. More stable and pH balanced.
How tall will your plants be at harvest? Need to know approximate dimensions to place the plants.
What wall are you doing air out of?
Where are you venting the hoods? Are you pulling air from the room or from outside through the hoods?
Where is the door?
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phillipchristian said:
kamie said:
Just some quick questions Kamie.

What size are your ballasts?
How are you going to have 6 ballast, bulbs, etc.. in a room with no a/c?
Are you adding anything to your Sunshine? I add 20% worm castings and a tablespoon of dolmite lime per gallon. More stable and pH balanced.
How tall will your plants be at harvest? Need to know approximate dimensions to place the plants.
What wall are you doing air out of?
Where are you venting the hoods? Are you pulling air from the room or from outside through the hoods?
Where is the door?
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i'll be using 6 1k ballasts 3 are lumateks and 3 are quantums from my last grow.
i thought with good ventilation i'd get by, but youre right im going to need a/c. any recommendations? im in ca bay area and right now its been very cold still..
i wasn't planning on adding anything, but how does the 20% worm casting and dolmite lime work? can i get that at the local hydro store?
i was thinking in 5 gal pots no taller than 2ft. what do you think about 3 gallon pots? would that be better?
the air out wall would be width wall which is also where the closet is located.
i will be venting the hoods out to the width wall as well and ill be pulling air in for the hoods from the window.
the door is on the length wall right across from the window at the corner which is also right next to the width wall opposite of the closet.

i hope that makes sense. let me know if you need more info. thanks phillip
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kamie said:
i'll be using 6 1k ballasts 3 are lumateks and 3 are quantums from my last grow.
i thought with good ventilation i'd get by, but youre right im going to need a/c. any recommendations? im in ca bay area and right now its been very cold still..
i wasn't planning on adding anything, but how does the 20% worm casting and dolmite lime work? can i get that at the local hydro store?
i was thinking in 5 gal pots no taller than 2ft. what do you think about 3 gallon pots? would that be better?
the air out wall would be width wall which is also where the closet is located.
i will be venting the hoods out to the width wall as well and ill be pulling air in for the hoods from the window.
the door is on the length wall right across from the window at the corner which is also right next to the width wall opposite of the closet.

i hope that makes sense. let me know if you need more info. thanks phillip
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Hey Kamie,

That is an awful lot of light for that room and for 2' plants. Couple things I have noticed: First, even though the room is 13x10 I am assuming you won't have the ENTIRE space covered with plants? I mean, you are going to need room for other equipment and to walk around. I would say 4 lights max is all you will need. You could probably run those lights dimmed to 600w (use 600w bulbs if you do this) and save a lot on heating and electricity. Second; if you are only growing 2' plants you don't need all that penetration of a 1000w light. You are just adding heat and electrical draw that you don't need. Are you growing SOG on trays? If so, how big are your trays and how many do you have?

If you end up going with 6,000w in there then I would look into a minisplit. 18,000-24,000btu. That is a ton of heat you will be producing. If you don't want to do the minisplit then I think you are going to need 2 12,000btu portable a/c units. You can try it with 1 but I'm pretty sure you are going to need another. I really can't recommend any particular brand cause I have never used them before. I do know you want a dual hose unit as they are more efficient. You will need a place to draw air from and to exhaust it. That means more vents.

You can get both worm castings and lime online. Most hydro stores carry worm castings but a lot of them do not carry lime. I would say 3-4 15lb. bags of worm castings and a 5lb bag of dolmite lime would be plenty to hold you over for a while. Worm Castings provide great beneficial bacteria additives to the soil which Sunshine lacks a little on. They also make it easier for you plant to uptake Nitrogem and Potassium. I've heard the new Sunshin #4 Pro has added beneficials and bacteria but I 'm not sure cause I haven't really looked into it. Dolmite lime is stricly for pH stability in your soil as Sunshine is a soiless mix and tends to fluctuate pH a lot. You can get the lime on Amazon for $20 (http://www.amazon.com/Dolomitic-Lim...sr_1_sc_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1334476141&sr=8-6-spell) and the worm castings as well (http://www.amazon.com/Pure-Organic-...1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1334476256&sr=1-1). Remember, 20-25% worm casting mixed in with your soil and 1 tablespoon of dolmite lime per gallon of soil and casting mix. Helps to just get a wheel barrow or tub. Grab a 3 gallon pot and for every 4 scoops of Sunshine you add a scoop of worm castings. That will be 15 gallons of soil mix. Then just add 15 tablespoons (1 cup) of lime.

If you aren't going any taller than 2-3 feet then 3 gallon pots will be plenty and will allow you to fit more plants under your lights. 5 gallon pots are for bigger plants; 4-5'.

Totally confused about your room layout. Anyway to just sketch it out on paper real quick so I can see what you mean? Just give me the layout and the dimensions for the walls, doors, windows, etc... Take a picture of your drawing and post that.
 
I'm going to post this equipment list, maybe you can help me decide on a 1k light/hood and a new meter. I currently have...

1-LumenAire 8" Reflector w/600 watt Quantum/Hortilux
1-EasyCool 6" Reflector w/600 watt HTG/HTG
(adding a 1k light this week)
1- CAP Valuline 8" fan 745 cfm with an 8" Phresh filter
1-HTG 6" fan 450 cfm for cooling the hoods.
1-CAP intermitent timer for my Aero unit
I have a custom built Aero cloner and an Aero/NFT (6 unit site) for flower.
Plenty of air pumps
Shitty meters pH and PPM
4-4' T-8s and a 150 watt HPS for veg
2-10'x20' sheets of Panda
4'x8' Ebay Tent
1-6" Inline fan
1-4" Centrifugal fan ~180 cfm

As far as the floor goes, I don't think I have the time or skill for it. These panda film walls need to go, SOON. May be removing carpet today :(
 
Sencha said:
I'm going to post this equipment list, maybe you can help me decide on a 1k light/hood and a new meter. I currently have...

1-LumenAire 8" Reflector w/600 watt Quantum/Hortilux
1-EasyCool 6" Reflector w/600 watt HTG/HTG
(adding a 1k light this week)
1- CAP Valuline 8" fan 745 cfm with an 8" Phresh filter
1-HTG 6" fan 450 cfm for cooling the hoods.
1-CAP intermitent timer for my Aero unit
I have a custom built Aero cloner and an Aero/NFT (6 unit site) for flower.
Plenty of air pumps
Shitty meters pH and PPM
T-8s and a 150 watt HPS for veg

As far as the floor goes, I don't think I have the time or skill for it. These panda film walls need to go, SOON. May be removing carpet today :(
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If you can build the walls then building the floor is just as easy. Frame out the exterior size of your rooms. Then just lay it on the floor and add plywood. I would make the spacing 2' on the studs since it's a floor. For your walls just put up plywood as well. Then get duct insulation wrap. It's cheap, insulating, and very reflective. They sell it an Home Depot or Lowes.

For a pH/ppm meter I would go with a Hanna. I like them a lot. I've had one for 2 years with no problems. Buy the 2 bottles of calibration solution. 4.01 and 7.0. Also, wash it off before you store it with the cleanest water you have.
 
I'm a stoner. I'd spend too much time figuring out how to make the floor, 4 pieces and interlocking. HR made a good point. If I take out the whole 20x9 section, I can put it back as needed. I'll save some much needed time.

Can you recommend a good, concrete, drill bit? ...and size.

Lets talk about a bit of sound proofing before we talk plywood. I have some extra sheets of drywall for the outside. Some new, fireproof, drywall might be doable instead. 4xsheets whould do it. FP 4x8s are ~$7

Why do you recommend plywood on the inside? I will have plenty of panda film left over. I was thinking, inside out: panda film/cheap insulation(mostly for sound) foamboard or what? not sure/drywall. Plywood is also too expensive.

I need extra thought for sound deadening because the Valuline is pretty loud, it shakes the room upstairs as well. I know I need a speed controller but that is NOT in budget atm.

Thanks for your help. I really needed someone elses input on this. I wasted alot of energy on the panda film walls. I want to do it right this time.

Next up...atmosphere, to seal or not to seal
 
5/8" thick drywall is the goal. Use the heavy stuff on the inside of the walls, where the noise is being produced. If the walls were 2x4, and spaced every 24" rather than 16", your sound isolation will improve a lot. Consider using a first layer of OSB, then drywall. That way you can drive a screw and hang a light anywhere. Use standard R13 fiberglass in the wall. Paper faced so you can staple to studs.
 
Sencha said:
I'm a stoner. I'd spend too much time figuring out how to make the floor, 4 pieces and interlocking. HR made a good point. If I take out the whole 20x9 section, I can put it back as needed. I'll save some much needed time.

Can you recommend a good, concrete, drill bit? ...and size.

Lets talk about a bit of sound proofing before we talk plywood. I have some extra sheets of drywall for the outside. Some new, fireproof, drywall might be doable instead. 4xsheets whould do it. FP 4x8s are ~$7

Why do you recommend plywood on the inside? I will have plenty of panda film left over. I was thinking, inside out: panda film/cheap insulation(mostly for sound) foamboard or what? not sure/drywall. Plywood is also too expensive.

I need extra thought for sound deadening because the Valuline is pretty loud. I know I need a speed controller but that is NOT in budget atm.

Thanks for your help. I really needed someone elses input on this. I wasted alot of energy on the panda film walls. I want to do it right this time.

Next up...atmosphere, to seal or not to seal
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Drillbit? They are all the same for what you are trying to do. Just get one from the hardware store. Dewalt, Bosch, Milwaukee, whatever.

I recommended plywood cause it is cheap and durable. I don't know what materials you have to work with. Any sturdy board material will work. It's up to you. Use whatever you want; I'm just giving suggestions. Use drywall, plywood, foam board, particle board, whatever.
 
I asked about the bit because everytime I buy a concrete bit, it only lasts about 20 holes. The foam board was more a question of insulation/sound proofing. I've updated my equipment list. I also have 6 sheets of drywall and 2 sheets of green board.

I don't want to drywall both sides and the plywood is twice the cost. Panda film for the inside wall or bad idea? Not enough sound proofing?

@Rrog, thanks for the input. I like the idea of 24" stud space. That insulation might be out of budget though. Is there a cheaper option?
 
Foam won't soundproof. It has no mass.

Some thicknesses of OSB are pretty darned cheap, though it weighs less than drywall.

Insulation helps, but people believe it does more than it really does. It's an intuitive conclusion. If cash was fixed, I would pay for extra drywall and skip the insulation
 
Opting for a happy medium between easy of tear down and sound proofing.....I'll use the drywall that I have on the outside. I'll buy the R-13 insulation, and I'll panda film over it on the inside. If I don't get the sound proof I need, I can always add drywall to the inside later, and it will be easy to do.

If I stumble on some extra cash, I'll OSB the inside. I know I'll be getting some for the ceiling regardless.
 
There is no question whatsoever that not installing the drywall on the inside will result in a big waste. Personally, I would pass on the insulation, use the heavy drywall inside and out, seal the drywall with caulk, and paint the inside surface with gloss white paint.
 
Rrog said:
There is no question whatsoever that not installing the drywall on the inside will result in a big waste. Personally, I would pass on the insulation, use the heavy drywall inside and out, seal the drywall with caulk, and paint the inside surface with gloss white paint.
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Agreed! I don't know your budget Sencha. That's why I suggested plywood. 1/2" CDX is pretty cheap man.
 
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