Grow Room Floorplans. Here to help.

Bwpz said:

I wouldn't want to put my house's security in my hands, I'll just pay an electrician to do it It would be cool if you could list everything I need so I can tell the electrician

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I don't know what breaker panel you have or how much space you have on it or anything so I really can't give you a list of materials.

Tell the electrician you need a 50amp subpanel put into that room. Then tell him you want 4 four 20amp outlets at 120v and show him where you want them. If you get that dual ballast from Lumatek then you'll need a 240v outlet 15amps for it. That way you'll have 2 dual outlets in your flower room to run all your ballasts on 1 or 2 and another 1-2 for the rest of the equipment. Then 1 outlet should be fine for you veg room. I don't know your setup or anything so I can't really tell you what you'll need. Are you in tents or did you build a room. Too many unknowns for me to get specific.

phillipchristian said:

I don't know what breaker panel you have or how much space you have on it or anything so I really can't give you a list of materials.

Tell the electrician you need a 50amp subpanel put into that room. Then tell him you want 4 four 20amp outlets at 120v and show him where you want them. If you get that dual ballast from Lumatek then you'll need a 240v outlet 15amps for it. That way you'll have 2 dual outlets in your flower room to run all your ballasts on 1 or 2 and another 1-2 for the rest of the equipment. Then 1 outlet should be fine for you veg room. I don't know your setup or anything so I can't really tell you what you'll need. Are you in tents or did you build a room. Too many unknowns for me to get specific.

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I'm building a room and using panda film as the walls. The equipment I'll need to run is:

3 600w Ballasts
16 40-watt fluorescent tubes
4 250gph water pumps
2 35w air pumps
2 inline fans (1 amp and 1.7 amp)
Separate timers (Flowering, Vegging,Water pump timer)
16" Oscillating fan, couple other smaller fans

Later I'll be adding a CO2 tank with a regulator.

Thanks for that information, any idea on about how much that'd cost?

Hey Phil you probably forgot about me, I would be grateful if you could help me out. Here's my original post https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/513173-grow-room-floorplans-here-help-8.html#post7178589 Even though I've done a ton of research, it's kinda hard for me to design a growroom when I've never even been inside of one. I think I want a flowering area with four 600w lights and a vegetative+mother area with a 600w mh and 8bulb t5. Does this sound about right? I'm thinking 16 plants in flowering, room for 16 clones vegging and 4 mothers. That gives me 36, and using the other 12 plants I'm legal to possess for breeding or pheno selecting or whatever.
I definitely don't plan on starting with this many plants, but I have the ability to save money and work my way up to that much equipment. I just want to do this right the first time. The electrician is finally coming this week to upgrade my service to 200amps and the wiring in my basement, could you also point out where I need him to put outlets? Or possibly a subpanel? Feel free to tell me that I'm asking too much from you. Thanks for any help you can provide

You should be fine with 4 outlets. 3 for flower and 1 for veg. You can run most of that stuff on power strips. Just not the lights.

Probably run you $150 for the electrical boxes, wire, and breakers. Maybe another $200 to have the dude install it all.

phillipchristian said:

You should be fine with 4 outlets. 3 for flower and 1 for veg. You can run most of that stuff on power strips. Just not the lights.

Probably run you $150 for the electrical boxes, wire, and breakers. Maybe another $200 to have the dude install it all.

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Thanks man, you saved my house

I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress.

ThorWho said:

Hey Phil you probably forgot about me, I would be grateful if you could help me out. Here's my original post https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/513173-grow-room-floorplans-here-help-8.html#post7178589 Even though I've done a ton of research, it's kinda hard for me to design a growroom when I've never even been inside of one. I think I want a flowering area with four 600w lights and a vegetative+mother area with a 600w mh and 8bulb t5. Does this sound about right? I'm thinking 16 plants in flowering, room for 16 clones vegging and 4 mothers. That gives me 36, and using the other 12 plants I'm legal to possess for breeding or pheno selecting or whatever.
I definitely don't plan on starting with this many plants, but I have the ability to save money and work my way up to that much equipment. I just want to do this right the first time. The electrician is finally coming this week to upgrade my service to 200amps and the wiring in my basement, could you also point out where I need him to put outlets? Or possibly a subpanel? Feel free to tell me that I'm asking too much from you. Thanks for any help you can provide

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Damn dude, sounds like you're gonna have a nice setup You should look at my setup for a perpetual outline, unless you didn't want to do a perpetual grow.

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ThorWho said:

Hey Phil you probably forgot about me, I would be grateful if you could help me out. Here's my original post https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/513173-grow-room-floorplans-here-help-8.html#post7178589 Even though I've done a ton of research, it's kinda hard for me to design a growroom when I've never even been inside of one. I think I want a flowering area with four 600w lights and a vegetative+mother area with a 600w mh and 8bulb t5. Does this sound about right? I'm thinking 16 plants in flowering, room for 16 clones vegging and 4 mothers. That gives me 36, and using the other 12 plants I'm legal to possess for breeding or pheno selecting or whatever.
I definitely don't plan on starting with this many plants, but I have the ability to save money and work my way up to that much equipment. I just want to do this right the first time. The electrician is finally coming this week to upgrade my service to 200amps and the wiring in my basement, could you also point out where I need him to put outlets? Or possibly a subpanel? Feel free to tell me that I'm asking too much from you. Thanks for any help you can provide

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Hey bud, if you look below your original post I asked you some questions to help me lay the room out but you never got back to me. You just answered some of them but I still need to know answers to the other ones. I also need to know if you are going to be building seperate rooms for them.

ThorWho said:

Hey Phil you probably forgot about me, I would be grateful if you could help me out. Here's my original post https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/513173-grow-room-floorplans-here-help-8.html#post7178589 Even though I've done a ton of research, it's kinda hard for me to design a growroom when I've never even been inside of one. I think I want a flowering area with four 600w lights and a vegetative+mother area with a 600w mh and 8bulb t5. Does this sound about right? I'm thinking 16 plants in flowering, room for 16 clones vegging and 4 mothers. That gives me 36, and using the other 12 plants I'm legal to possess for breeding or pheno selecting or whatever.
I definitely don't plan on starting with this many plants, but I have the ability to save money and work my way up to that much equipment. I just want to do this right the first time. The electrician is finally coming this week to upgrade my service to 200amps and the wiring in my basement, could you also point out where I need him to put outlets? Or possibly a subpanel? Feel free to tell me that I'm asking too much from you. Thanks for any help you can provide

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I've actually gotten most of the info I need now. Just a few questions.

What are you going to do when winter comes and you have no a/c?
What window is the a/c in right now?
Can you duct your lights out the windows or to a crawl space? Can you duct them into the basement if you build a dividing wall?

My window ac isn't in anything right now, when it gets hot we have a smaller one for the bedroom. When winter comes I was considering buying a portable ac or 2. There was a small wood stove attached to the chimney down there so I assume I can duct everything into it.

Ducting into a chimney is a great idea I've heard of ducting through dryer vents, but a chimney sounds simpler

Bwpz said:

Ducting into a chimney is a great idea I've heard of ducting through dryer vents, but a chimney sounds simpler

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While we're on the subject, I could just duct some stuff into the other part of the basement to help heat my house in the winter right? My bedroom is right above the laundry room.

ThorWho said:

While we're on the subject, I could just duct some stuff into the other part of the basement to help heat my house in the winter right? My bedroom is right above the laundry room.

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The best way to use your ducting is to heat your house, so it spreads the heat out instead of concentrating it. If you don't want to spread it, at least vent it through something that normally produces heat (chimney, dryer ducting).

You should watch Barry Cooper's Never Get Busted Vol. 1 & 2, there's tons of information about this kind of stuff

Wassup guys hey i jus finished reading everythang and noticed it was getting bigger so i guess u guys r up late with me. Ok so heres my situation my roommate tells me yesterday she wants to move back in with her mom. So i could have some one come rent it out but im thinking i can jus grow in it and pay the rent myself. So the room is about a 9.5ft wide by 11.5 feet long and about 8-10 ft ceilings. This is in an apartment and i already have a nice 3x3 tent going in my room wiht a 600 watt hps and a small cloner cabinent. so i was thinking i cud do a veg room in the 3x3 tent in my room and was planning on either doing a 8x8 tent or possibly a 5x10 tent. I want to have a lil room around the tent to put stuff n a chair to smoke in there n such. So what do u think is my best bet inbetween the two choices.

ThorWho said:

While we're on the subject, I could just duct some stuff into the other part of the basement to help heat my house in the winter right? My bedroom is right above the laundry room.

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I sent you a private message. Let me know.

thousanaire said:

Wassup guys hey i jus finished reading everythang and noticed it was getting bigger so i guess u guys r up late with me. Ok so heres my situation my roommate tells me yesterday she wants to move back in with her mom. So i could have some one come rent it out but im thinking i can jus grow in it and pay the rent myself. So the room is about a 9.5ft wide by 11.5 feet long and about 8-10 ft ceilings. This is in an apartment and i already have a nice 3x3 tent going in my room wiht a 600 watt hps and a small cloner cabinent. so i was thinking i cud do a veg room in the 3x3 tent in my room and was planning on either doing a 8x8 tent or possibly a 5x10 tent. I want to have a lil room around the tent to put stuff n a chair to smoke in there n such. So what do u think is my best bet inbetween the two choices.

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What up? Thanks for stopping by. Glad to help.

If I were you I would put all 3 tents in that room. Since you are in an apartment and I'm guessing that electricity is somewhat of an issue I would get a 4x8 tent. That is perfect for 2 600w lights. Then you would still have room for the 3x3 tent for your vegging plants and the clone tent for your clippings. 600w lights are better in tents anyway. Most tents are only 7' tall and putting 1000 lights in them is a fucking heating and plant height nightmare. You could also do the 5x10 tent with 600's and that would leave you room in the tent for other things like dehumidifiers, a/c units, etc.. 600w lights have a 4x4 footprint of optimal PAR lighting. If you use 600w lights you could get those Lumatek Dual Ballasts for like $300 and run 2 lights off 1 ballast. You have to wire them 240v from the breaker panel but that shouldn't be a problem since you'll have to run new electrical anyway.

If you wanna get really ballsy you could do 2 4x8 tents on a FLIP in that room. Do them as a perpetual and you would be harvesting 1 tent every 4 weeks. Will cost more money up front cause you need a FLIP box, the extra hoods, extra bulbs, ducting, fans, etc... The ballasts would be the only thing you wouldn't need extra.

Just brainstorming.

This is what I have so far Thor. I need a lot more info to give you a more detailed plan and shopping list. This is assuming you put up a dividing wall in the basement at 15' and then seperate that room into 2 rooms.

phillipchristian said:

What up? Thanks for stopping by. Glad to help.

If I were you I would put all 3 tents in that room. Since you are in an apartment and I'm guessing that electricity is somewhat of an issue I would get a 4x8 tent. That is perfect for 2 600w lights. Then you would still have room for the 3x3 tent for your vegging plants and the clone tent for your clippings. 600w lights are better in tents anyway. Most tents are only 7' tall and putting 1000 lights in them is a fucking heating and plant height nightmare. You could also do the 5x10 tent with 600's and that would leave you room in the tent for other things like dehumidifiers, a/c units, etc.. 600w lights have a 4x4 footprint of optimal PAR lighting. If you use 600w lights you could get those Lumatek Dual Ballasts for like $300 and run 2 lights off 1 ballast. You have to wire them 240v from the breaker panel but that shouldn't be a problem since you'll have to run new electrical anyway.

If you wanna get really ballsy you could do 2 4x8 tents on a FLIP in that room. Do them as a perpetual and you would be harvesting 1 tent every 4 weeks. Will cost more money up front cause you need a FLIP box, the extra hoods, extra bulbs, ducting, fans, etc... The ballasts would be the only thing you wouldn't need extra.

Just brainstorming.

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I was thinking a 8x8 with four 600's and harvesting one 4x4 table every 2 weeks. Yea i am worried about the electricity getting wayy too high tho. Might go with the 4x8 and possibly add the flip tent later i like that idea. Save some money on the electricity and on the ballasts. So what amount of plants do u think is best i want to go a quick veg maybe go with a sog jus not with too too many plants.

thousanaire said:

I was thinking a 8x8 with four 600's and harvesting one 4x4 table every 2 weeks. Yea i am worried about the electricity getting wayy too high tho. Might go with the 4x8 and possibly add the flip tent later i like that idea. Save some money on the electricity and on the ballasts. So what amount of plants do u think is best i want to go a quick veg maybe go with a sog jus not with too too many plants.

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You said you wanted room in your tents for stuff that you may need to put in there like a/c, dehumidifier, etc... You go with an 8x8 or 4x8 with 4 or 2 trays in there and you have NO room to put anything else. You kinda gotta figure out which way you want to go from the beginning or it will cost you more in the end. You have a 4x8 tent packed with 2 4x4 trays and it's gonna be a butch getting to some of the plants in the back. You can run your a/c and dehumidifier in the bedroom and control the environment in the tents with active intakes. Maybe run 4x8 tents with 3x3 tables and 400w lights. If you are doing a SOG then you won't need anything more than 400w and it has a footprint of 3x3. Gives you a little room to play with in the tent and also allows you to reach the back corners. Plus it's less electricity and cooling to worry about.

Doing a flip doesn't lower your electricity bill. It just splits the load you are running in half. Instead of running 4 lights for 12 hours a day you are running 2 lights for 24 hours a day basically. 12 hours in the first tent then 12 hours in the second tent. The reason for doing this is that sometimes you can't put all of that electrical load on your breaker panel cause you don't have enough free amperage. Therefore you split it in two and run them on different cycles. You could also get 240v ballasts which would help reduce the load on your panel if you wanted to run them all at the same time. It's hard to say when I don't know your exact electrical situation.

I'd set itup like this. Not all right away but 1 tent then another in the future. 9 plants per tray. 9 plants in veg. 400w lights. All the lights and a/c on a 240v subpanel. I would need more info to figure out the ducting, etc...If you have a breaker panel in the apartment or somewhere that only you have access to then running this setup would not be hard to wire up at all and really wouldn't use that much power. 400w lights use 3.6amps max. That would be 7amps at one time in lighting. That's 30% less than running a single 1000w light for 12 hours. You could easily get away with that. Then just run one of those Clone Lab 2x4 tents in your room that has the shelves in it. 3 moms on the bottom under a T5 and clones on the top shelf with some CFL's.

Hi Phillip any luck with the design yet. From reading your comments to another forum user who has insufficient power to run his rooms i am going to opt for another subpanel upstairs, i am going to have a word with my electrician and hopefully the subpanel will be in place soon . I know you havent come up with a design for the rooms yet but wondering if you can give me a low down on what electrical equipment will be needed from lights to pumps/fans etc so i can start making a shopping list and pricing things up. If its easier to have my design up first and then go through the equipment then i will wait.

Thanks V