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Yoghi

Member
Hey, was going to run 16 600w cooltubes, in two rows of eight. would it be best to have a carbon filter at the start of each row, 4 cooltubes with duct inbetween, fan, then another 4 cooltubes with duct inbetween then fan? Using this method I would then have another two carbon filters and extractors removing the air from the room into a void underneath the house, with passive intake from the outside through air bricks.
The room is 9m(L) x 4.5m(W) x2m(H) and is for flowering only as I would have a seperate veg room. Just wondered if this was a reasonable setup?
Thanks in advance!
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

Well-Known Member
i've never used cooltubes before but aren't they designed to be closed loop? i think the best idea would be to pull air from outside of the room through the cooltubes and exhaust it back outside of the room. then just buy 1 carbon filter and recirculate the air in the room through that. for the cooltubes you probably could use 1 fan per row. just use a high output oversized fan. if they are 8" cooltubes then use a 12" high output fan and connect it with duct reducers. then on the exhaust side of the fan just use 12" ducting.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
i've never used cooltubes before but aren't they designed to be closed loop? i think the best idea would be to pull air from outside of the room through the cooltubes and exhaust it back outside of the room. then just buy 1 carbon filter and recirculate the air in the room through that. for the cooltubes you probably could use 1 fan per row. just use a high output oversized fan. if they are 8" cooltubes then use a 12" high output fan and connect it with duct reducers. then on the exhaust side of the fan just use 12" ducting.
Cooltubes work just as you said, although you can use it in other ways. If your thinking cooltubes get the 8in ones
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

Well-Known Member
Cooltubes work just as you said, although you can use it in other ways. If your thinking cooltubes get the 8in ones
hey hellraizer. how's it going?

what's the "advantage" to cooltubes? i mean, a sealed hood will give you a better light distribution won't it? i've never even looked into cooltubes before. can you keep them cooler than regular hoods?
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Yah in all the hoods i have use cool tubes have been the beast for cooling lights. Although they dont spread light out
aswell as some of the higher priced hoods. A hood i realy want to try is a melon head, its basic structure is a cool tube
with a hood over it. Look into them befor geting a cooltube.

Things have been good, lots of fishing so much so i still feel like im on the water, and the waves are hiting my bed lol
 

Yoghi

Member
Thanks guys,
I am not sure about the diameter of the cooltubes yet, was thinking if I use 8" ones then I might have height issues, but I have read you can get them closer to the plants, so might not be an issue after all.
Thanks again
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

Well-Known Member
Thanks guys,
I am not sure about the diameter of the cooltubes yet, was thinking if I use 8" ones then I might have height issues, but I have read you can get them closer to the plants, so might not be an issue after all.
Thanks again
if you are gonna have rows of 8 lights then you will need to use 8" if not bigger. you need to move a lot of air through them. i don't think 1-2" is gonna make a difference in plant height.
 

Kush2180

Active Member
I am currently using a cool tube but will be buying an adjust a wing very shortly

I would advise against getting a cool tube unless heat is a massive issue that you can't solve other ways. Because of the shape of the glass it decreases the amount of light that reaches the plant, the reflector is very poorly shaped so light dispersion is very bad, it doesn't cover a very big area either.

I have found that if you have a normal reflector, put the ducting from your fan inline with the bulb facing it. That way it draws the hot air directly from the bulb and also exhausts the room at the same time.

Or you could use an air cooled hood with a proper reflector, the big square ones.

In summary cool tubes really aren't that great, i regret ever buying one.

Just my 2 cents :D
 

Yoghi

Member
Thanks for the info people!, We cant seem to buy Melon Heads in the UK yet, but I will keep researching!
 

KidneyStoner420

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I run a batwing reflector with a 250. My closet was getting over 90* on a hot day. I built my own cooltube and fit it to my batwing last weekend. The hottest I have seen thus far is 82*.

Well worth a $25 investment in my opinion.
 

NINO313

Member
Whats up bro need help with a set up i already have 5 1000w lights 400w t5 and a 150 site cloning doing dwc 5 gal buckets trying to get the most out of my space can you help?untitled.JPG
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

Well-Known Member
Whats up bro need help with a set up i already have 5 1000w lights 400w t5 and a 150 site cloning doing dwc 5 gal buckets trying to get the most out of my space can you help?
what are trying to do with that space? do you want to use it all for flowering? or do you want to split it up into a veg space and flowering space. need more info bro. like windows and doors. style of grow. size of flowering plants, etc...
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

Well-Known Member
little confusing to see what's going on there but it looks like it would work. it looks like you are doing a lot of plants. is it a SOG grow? you might need more room for mothers then. you are gonna need quite a few.
 

Noalias1

Member
little confusing to see what's going on there but it looks like it would work. it looks like you are doing a lot of plants. is it a SOG grow? you might need more room for mothers then. you are gonna need quite a few.
i dont think sog is for me, i want 4 to 5 foot plants the first pic was an old room lay out, the second pic has the dimensions

i want use this http://wholesale.cch2o.com//index.php?main_page=index&cPath=31 for my hydro system

i need to keep up with a 6 pound a month demand
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

Well-Known Member
i dont think sog is for me, i want 4 to 5 foot plants the first pic was an old room lay out, the second pic has the dimensions

i want use this http://wholesale.cch2o.com//index.php?main_page=index&cPath=31 for my hydro system

i need to keep up with a 6 pound a month demand
i amtesting out one of their systems right now. it's fucking awesome. you had better have some high ceilings and a chiller. what size sytem are you looking at? my guess is you are gonna need 2 16 site systems if you wanna pull that kind of weight every month. probably be better off with an 18 or 20 site system. pulling 6 ounces off 4'-5' plants might be stretching it in the beginning. takes a minute to get used to those systems. you run half the nutes as most other hydro setups. plus they are tricky to get dialed in.

looks like you have the room against the 30' wall to place 2 of those systems. gonna need a big ass chiller though. maybe 2 or 3hp commercial.
 

Noalias1

Member
i amtesting out one of their systems right now. it's fucking awesome. you had better have some high ceilings and a chiller. what size sytem are you looking at? my guess is you are gonna need 2 16 site systems if you wanna pull that kind of weight every month. probably be better off with an 18 or 20 site system. pulling 6 ounces off 4'-5' plants might be stretching it in the beginning. takes a minute to get used to those systems. you run half the nutes as most other hydro setups. plus they are tricky to get dialed in.

looks like you have the room against the 30' wall to place 2 of those systems. gonna need a big ass chiller though. maybe 2 or 3hp commercial.
thanks for the input i posted a thread yesterday with my room requirements, ive grown organ veggies before for a local produce shop, growing weeds has to be easier! if stoners can do it, i mean cmon... lol jking check out my thread any input would be best.

Are you familiar with automated systems that will release the nutes top off water and adjust ph automatically, i want this to be a standalone system.

as for pulling 6 oz off each plant is stretching it i dontt hinks so, with 2 16 sites i only need to pull 3ozs off each plant to achieve 6 lb's a month i think i can do it if i can make the room.

The systems sold by these people show 18 inch centers to the plants. i think if i cut down the 2 inch pipe i can squeeze in some more room.

As for the chiller part my house is run on a 5 ton geothermal heat exchanger i dont use the desuperheater so i have an extra tonage of heat that the furnace is over built for my size of house, in the summer months i can run basically a worm like how moonshiners chill down the moonshine( i used to make 190 proof in one run with my reflux fractionating still, still have it if anyone is interested in how to make them) so chilling wont be a problem, in the winter months same thing switch the lines to the what comes out after passing through my furnace and that water is below 50 degrees and will chill my shit out!

Im also investing in solar power to keep my hydro bills down, 6 pounds at 1200 each is 7200, after taxes and costs ill be lucky to have half of that, living off 3k a month sucks id like to aim for 4-5 oz's a plant

anyways check my thread out
 

jakeman12

Active Member
Well, this really sucks. Lost all of that great info that was posted on this thread and have to start it over again. Complete waste. Anyway, to all of those who had questions or floorplans up on here just let me know and I will repost them. Be specific as to which was yours as I have them all saved. Here you go Phishtank. This is the one we hae been working on.


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Thanks for the helpful post and pic. That is almost the exact dimensions and amount of plants that I plan to grow. I have a few questions. Are the lights you show air cooled and the arrows with the fan at the end , is that pulling air through the light hoods? If so, where do they vent? If they are vented out of the room, could you have both of them meet and vent out a single vent. About your A/C, I was planning on getting a 24,000 btu mini split. Would this be enough to keep the room cool enough with the 8x600w lights? Also what is the total amount of watts this room is using, not counting the veg room. I was planning on using just one room and switching from mh in veg to hps to flower. I have a 40 plant limit on my grow licence (want to do a SCROG) and a 70 amp limit on my power. I will be using as much 240v as possible to maximize my power. Might be possible to get 100 amps, but not sure so I can only count on 70. I am going to be growing in dirt for my first few grows.This is my first grow and any help on ths type of set up would be much appreciated. Pot size? dirt type?, nutrients? feeding method?? Thank you
 

calibear916

Active Member
hey @phillipchristian i had a question. i am venting my 6000 watt lights in a sealed and insulated 15 x 20 garage through the addict and out of the house. i have my mother plants in a tent inside the house so that is not an issue but plan on having a veg room along side the flower room in the garage. i wanted to create a box on the roof between each of the rooms that runs all the heat from all of the lights through the ducting into the box which will be pulled into the addict using a 10 inch fan and is then dispersed out of the house. what do you think about this plan and how many btu's will i need when choosing an AC unit?
 
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