Grow room suggestions

I hit a wall as to the design of this room. I figured it was best to just post photos and let you guys pick it apart.

Facts:
The room is 4'hx7'wx3'd - 84 sq ft
There are 4 32w t8 bulbs, running 24/0
There is one fan (max cfm 186), running 24/0
The venting present is for my dryer (I just put it behing the fan as a fresh air experiment)
Available pluggage, one receptacle (the other is for the washer), one occupied dryer plug
I also cover it with a faux wall for discretion

I am willing to part the dryer vent for the room

Economy is key (I'm vehicle broke)! This is a rental, so take down is also key. Discretion (needless to say)... is key.



Open to suggestions, and greatly appreciate any help.

That looks like a cluster FUCK!

Make venting runs as short as possible and with as few curves. Put the dryer ducting somewhere else if you can as it will cause temperature and humididty spikes. Take anything you don't need in the room out. Hang the lights a little farther apart and give the room a good cleaning. Space your plants out in a long row down the middle between the 2 lights (looks like you only have 4 plants. Just my opinion.

Definitely cluster fuck. First try at it, very limited space in apartment. No other option for the dryer... Also that room actually gets a bit chilly, which I would like to improve as well. I was thinking to install a Y with damper near the entrance of the 4" duct into the house, and add an inline carbon filter fan to remove air, but I need to improve renewing the air. What does it cost to make a barebones CO2 system?

Also, should I just go with a HPS fixture. And what really would that entail... I imagine that I wouldn't need too much wattage in an HPS due to room constraints. I have been told that you get shit quantity during flowering stage under small fluorescents, although they work for Veg growth. Thoughts?

wtf??? i cant read

well i guess it depends... but there's a lot of stuff that needs fixing... and a lot of information that needs to be told... how many plants are you gonna grow? are you going to veg and flower plants at the same time because that requires seperate rooms or are you going to veg/flower in the same spot and only do one crop at a time... fluoros are not good for flowering they produce more leaf in and around your buds rather than nugging up like you would want from regular conventional lighting... HPS is ideal for flowering... what's your budget like for the room... many many details...

if the room is inside then you dont want the air coming in you want it going out .the fan is good for air circulation think like the wind in nature but you will want that vent to push out air that has been cleaned so there is no smell. it looks like you are trying to get fresh air from outside.wich should not be needed.

Ok. So I guess Y the duct at the wall (because I will need to dry clothes), and a carbon filter on the new duct? Thoughts on the cold air getting in from outside?

Shulby, I am interested in spending what it takes to not be disappointed after the whole grow. Ie. I have a decent paying job, but will need to juggle some money to do what ever upgrades are in store.

As for the life cycle of these (4), I was planning on cloning them when the time comes, and maybe make a box for those? So one at a time basically. These were from seed.

a sun system 150 or 250 hps are pretty cheap and the ballast is enclosed so you don't have a separate ballast. the 150 watt hps works for flowering if thats all you can get ( amazon.com ) even just a sun system 150 gets pretty hot so you should a least hook up a fan to blow air out the duct (to where?) you could put a carbon filter on for smell. if you just blow air out with a good fan+duct tape, it will suck fresh air in from under the door that should give you fresh air (including Co2) when you turn it on.
One of those fluorescents might need to be changed and I wouldn't hang anything on a bulb , I had a light like that fall on my plants while it was on it kindof explodes and you get sharp little pieces of glass and mercury to try to clean up- off tore up plants.

yes y that duct eventually, i would only have lights, plants and fan (oscilating is better) in the room. you can get ona for the smell for now until flower then.

ok... you say you have no vehicle... this is no problem you can find all supplies that you need on the net now.

as for your schedule... starting from seed is tough.. especially if you've never done this before. do you know what you are growing or are they random seeds? do we need to upgrade your soil? miracle grow is no good for cannabis but if that's all u have access to it'll have to work but i really suggest getting your hands one some good product. you're going to have to sex your plants and eliminate any possible males... also they make those t8 fluoro lights that you have in 2' sections instead of 4'... you could then split your closet and have a veg side and a flower side so that you can increase your production. but some people veg/flower in the same closet and just swap lights and light cycle. i prefer to have seperate because like i said you'll be producing more often. and that means more bud! now i dont know where u got your seeds.. so you're going to have to take a clone of each plant you grow... then if they were successfully cloned, place them in to flower to find out their sex, destroy any males... and once you have a mother plant figured out take a new cut off her, clone, and get them vegging!!

so you say you're thinking about only flowering one plant at a time... i would recommend two. as you may already know, cannabis generally takes 8-9 weeks to flower (indica strains) which i would imagine is what you'd be growing. this makes it nice because you can put one plant in to flower... wait 4-5 weeks and put your second plant in the flowering room. by staggering your time like this you can take down one plant a month rather than waiting 2 months or more for each harvest. A 250 watt HPS system to me is ideal for small operation as well as bud production (cfls and fluoros will produce leafy buds)... you get twice the lumenage as the 150 watt lamp so i think the 250 is a better bang for your buck. it's also a good idea to upgrade the hood (fixture reflecting the light) to it... get something that you can connect some ducting to so you can pull the heat out of your room via duct fan. the cooler your lights are the closer they can be and the happier your buds will be! fortunately those 250watt do not put off bad heat spots so any duct fan rated for 150 cfm or more should pull your excess light heat through the ducting for the 250watt lamp

how we doin so far

Good Good.

I do have a vehicle, but it has made me poor, Vehicle poor. For the flowering of the plants, I was thinking of taking a clone off of each strain (got the seeds feminized online), then put all four of the full grown plants into their flowering cycle, while nursing the clones at the same time.

As for the heat, I was thinking it wouldn't be horrible to leave the light unducted, to increase the heat in the room (I have infloor, and that section of the unit was never installed with it).

The good part is, I know all four plants are feminized.

I got a price on the sun system 150w http://www.amazon.com/Sun-System-Watt-Reflector-Ballast/dp/B00269RWQI

It is about $150ish at the local shops here (Canada). I also would like to get some sort of inline carbon filter to add to the 4" ducting, to draw the used air out of the room, while drawing new air in through gaps and cracks.

This way I could still use the T8's for Veg growth for the clones, and the plants currently, while using the HPS during flowering etc.

Thoughts? Thoughts?

Ok I picked up and installed the Sun system 150w HPS fixture. I left the T8 fixtures installed for some additional lighting. Would it be best to switch to a MH bulb in this fixture for now (the reading I have done is that it is just a strait bulb change), then use the HPS for flowering?

Any suggestions on a cheap carbon filter system to hookup to a 4" duct?