grow room to HOT/vent question

cawolves

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Hello. First time posting. I have a 8 inch inline and live in a rather hot dry area... I like to call it hell. I'm growing in a shed and the coolest place in under the shed. What do you guys think of pulling air from the floor of the grow room? The shed is about a foot off the ground. Either passive or active like a computer fan in the floor? Also I'm worried about light and sand or bugs coming in through intake. Also the grow area is about 4 by 4 and its in the back of the shed. The walls don't go all the way up to the 7 foot tall ceiling. They go up about 6 ft. Using a drip hydro with 400 hps. Also have carbon filter. Thanks for any CHEAP info.
 

cawolves

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a little computer fan wont do much idont think it would be worth the time
You may be right but I won't have the money for another inline for a looonnnngggg time and I don't know if passive will work in the floor because of the gap towards the ceiling will get air pulled through the inline exhaust and a passive will end up just being a hole for dust...
 

Flo Grow

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Cawolves, you can do passive.
Just filter/screen it up real good.
Maybe also put some serious bug killing ingredients underneath the shed if you can AND a nice powder-defense wall around the outside foundation.
For a good Ventilation Calculator for holes sizes and quantity, check my sig below.
Good grow vibes sent your way !!
 

WeeGogs

Active Member
Cawolves, you can do passive.
Just filter/screen it up real good.
Maybe also put some serious bug killing ingredients underneath the shed if you can AND a nice powder-defense wall around the outside foundation.
For a good Ventilation Calculator for holes sizes and quantity, check my sig below.
Good grow vibes sent your way !!
thats crap advice,
seal the hut best you can inside and get yourself a long piece of ducting as long as you can 4" minimum, old pipes anything you can get your hands on and seal and tape them all together, dig a trench from bushes etc in the shade, under a building etc, some where hidden to under your shed, it doesnt have to be deep, and run the trail of duct from the bushes somewhere in the shade, to under the shed with a 90 degree bend bringing it up and in to the shed and then cover and bury the duct, at the bushes end another 90 bend pointing up as low as possible to the ground, you will need to put a fine sponge aquarium filter over it to keep bugs out, and you will have to make a sort of cover that stops rain water getting in, a sort of chinese hat, or bucket upside down with small holes in sides then camouflage it, you will need to put an exhaust fan air out take on the roof or high on the side some where to let air out and keep rain water out too,. if your inlet fan is running constantly the temp inside the hut shouldnt be much higher than the outside temp in the shade, venting from under the shed will be ok for five minutes until that cool air runs out, because the air has to come from the surrounding atmosphere around the hot shed, not a dirty great big cool hole under the shed, if you use an inline duct fan they are air cooled motors and will run forever,. you can turn a little hard work in to a great little shed garden. if you want to use your 8" inline fan with a four inch inlet duct get a speed controller and turn the power down, a bathroom fan speed switch will do, a bit like a light dimmer switch, one will do from any decent diy store.

p.s.
our local supermarket has a gas/petrol station on the car park grounds, it has a long 4" blue and grey tube underground between fuel station and shop, they use a compressor and push money capsules through it to take the takings to the main shop, some work men were digging the carpark and broke the tube, scratching their heads as to what it was, so they knocked off for dinner, when they returned a money capsule was lying in the bottom of their dug hole, they opened it not knowing what it was there was £1200 in gbp $1947 usd, and did a runner with the cash, needless to say they were found out later that day.
 

Flo Grow

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Long piece of ducting ?! lol View attachment 1535612
You don't even have the knowledge to at least suggest Rigid or Semi-Rigid ducting !
Then after all this long ducting, you suggest 2 - 90 degree bends that will take 30% OFF HIS FANS CFM'S FOR EACH BEND !!!! lmao
View attachment 1535613
Then you suggest an AQUARIUM SPONGE FILTER = more CFM reduction ! For real......OUTSIDE !! View attachment 1535618
Then you suggest some sort of cover to stop rain for MORE CFM REDUCTION !?!?
Then you suggest an 8 inch fan AND a weak ass inline fan all hooked up to a speed controller ?!?!
He'll need a 12 inch fan with all your McGyver'ing through bushes, shade, buildings, his shed and oh yeah a chinese hat plus a camouflaged bucket.
View attachment 1535617
Who the hell are you Troll WeeGogs........Jimmy Carter......building all this shit for a guy who STATED in his VERY LAST SENTENCE : View attachment 1535616
THANKS FOR ANY CHEAP INFO !!!

Now take your TROLL ASS back under your bridge before I tear that shit down like I just did you !!!!!!
View attachment 1535615

WHO'S NEXT !?
 

rayishungry

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The ground is hot too. And good at keeping temps. Thing was pretty crazy and hard to follow. Had to read it a few times. The thing is NO ONE would notice you digging a trench across your yard, or laying dryer ducts in the ground. That shit happens everyday. No one will say "WTF is he doing?" Do it!! Post pics. Sub'd (-Rep though.)
 

Flo Grow

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RayIsHungry is just one of many friends.................lmao

I was hearing 50 Cents "Rider Music", while typing that !! lol
 
Wow some real advice there from WeeGogs and his McGruberstyle setup. ditch that plan, stick with something simplelike Flo said. Also in my opinon cool temps from under a bush or cool temps from under the shed are the same thing. He says cool air will run out from under shed, well frankly so will the cool air from behind the bush(and all that ridiculous work). shade cools as best it can, but put some sort of air filter in the intake, to prevent loads of dust/bugs. Good Luck and happy growing
 

pwizzle

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sounds like a nice setup cawolves.
weegog musta been high when he wrote that LOL
It's a good idea but with flaws in design. If you really wanna put that much money into it, it may turn into somethin nice.
Like maybe I would use that idea if I had a blank check and wanted to build an underground weed lair.
but not just for a backyard shed grow.
Go with the passive system, or a mix and add a lil pc fan. Do what you can for now.
Hey, it may not seem like much but trust me just one pc fan pullin that cold air from the floor can make ALL the difference.
It doesn't take much of a temp drop to have negative pull from a hot to cold area.
Just giving a couple good holes would drop a few degrees and equalize out but the fan would help out more than people are letting on.
Do you have any oscillating fans blowing around? preferably onto the bulb.
 

shizz

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i would cut a opening 12x 14. staple a heavy screen or a premade vent over it. i would put a pare of panty hose over it to act like a screen. nothing can get threw that but air. also vent the roof highiest piont. this will make a draft like a chimney. shouldnt need a fan. not saying you wont. but just the air flow should help. also running your lights at nite when its cooler helps.
 

shizz

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any way to shade the shed. look at the sun around 12pm to 5. place something to block the sun from the shed at these times. even some old ply wood leaning on the side. put a rope up between to trees place a sheet up like a cloths line. just some ideas im throwing at you get the wheeels turning. running a sprinkler or soaking hose on the roof also will cool it down from the baking sun.
 

KevinSmith

Active Member
From my limited experience definitely go passive on your intake unless you can get a fan with similar cfm's to your outlet fan.
On my veg box at first I had a computer fan as intake and a 4" 165 cfm fan and temps were low 90's.
I removed the comp fan and they dropped to 76-80.
I would just cut a hole in the bottom and use chicken wire and some sort of mesh sealed up tight for bugs and critters and exhaust with your inline out the top.
Also keep all ducting as short as possible to reduce cfm loss.
 

djruiner

Well-Known Member
thats crap advice,
seal the hut best you can inside and get yourself a long piece of ducting as long as you can 4" minimum, old pipes anything you can get your hands on and seal and tape them all together, dig a trench from bushes etc in the shade, under a building etc, some where hidden to under your shed, it doesnt have to be deep, and run the trail of duct from the bushes somewhere in the shade, to under the shed with a 90 degree bend bringing it up and in to the shed and then cover and bury the duct, at the bushes end another 90 bend pointing up as low as possible to the ground, you will need to put a fine sponge aquarium filter over it to keep bugs out, and you will have to make a sort of cover that stops rain water getting in, a sort of chinese hat, or bucket upside down with small holes in sides then camouflage it, you will need to put an exhaust fan air out take on the roof or high on the side some where to let air out and keep rain water out too,. if your inlet fan is running constantly the temp inside the hut shouldnt be much higher than the outside temp in the shade, venting from under the shed will be ok for five minutes until that cool air runs out, because the air has to come from the surrounding atmosphere around the hot shed, not a dirty great big cool hole under the shed, if you use an inline duct fan they are air cooled motors and will run forever,. you can turn a little hard work in to a great little shed garden. if you want to use your 8" inline fan with a four inch inlet duct get a speed controller and turn the power down, a bathroom fan speed switch will do, a bit like a light dimmer switch, one will do from any decent diy store.

p.s.
our local supermarket has a gas/petrol station on the car park grounds, it has a long 4" blue and grey tube underground between fuel station and shop, they use a compressor and push money capsules through it to take the takings to the main shop, some work men were digging the carpark and broke the tube, scratching their heads as to what it was, so they knocked off for dinner, when they returned a money capsule was lying in the bottom of their dug hole, they opened it not knowing what it was there was £1200 in gbp $1947 usd, and did a runner with the cash, needless to say they were found out later that day.
so he asks for cheap easy ideas and you have him digging trenches and running inlines through 90 degree turns?as opposed to the simplest method of making a passive intake hole?why not just tell him to buy a ceiling fan and build another room underground that all the air sucks into this room via the fan...where in the room there is a army of helper midgets that walk back and forth with carbon scrubbers
 

WeeGogs

Active Member
Long piece of ducting ?! lol View attachment 1535612
You don't even have the knowledge to at least suggest Rigid or Semi-Rigid ducting !
Then after all this long ducting, you suggest 2 - 90 degree bends that will take 30% OFF HIS FANS CFM'S FOR EACH BEND !!!! lmao View attachment 1535613
Then you suggest an AQUARIUM SPONGE FILTER = more CFM reduction ! For real......OUTSIDE !! View attachment 1535618
Then you suggest some sort of cover to stop rain for MORE CFM REDUCTION !?!?
Then you suggest an 8 inch fan AND a weak ass inline fan all hooked up to a speed controller ?!?!
He'll need a 12 inch fan with all your McGyver'ing through bushes, shade, buildings, his shed and oh yeah a chinese hat plus a camouflaged bucket. View attachment 1535617
Who the hell are you Troll WeeGogs........Jimmy Carter......building all this shit for a guy who STATED in his VERY LAST SENTENCE : View attachment 1535616
THANKS FOR ANY CHEAP INFO !!!

Now take your TROLL ASS back under your bridge before I tear that shit down like I just did you !!!!!!
View attachment 1535615

WHO'S NEXT !?
yes thats right an absolute load of bollocks the same as your idea
passive air intake never heard the fucking likes of it in my life
if someone walks past they will smell the fucking hut from 50 yards away.
numpty bastard
 

djruiner

Well-Known Member
yes thats right an absolute load of bollocks the same as your idea
passive air intake never heard the fucking likes of it in my life
if someone walks past they will smell the fucking hut from 50 yards away.
numpty bastard
you do know that intake is where the air comes in right?the exhaust is where your smell comes from...so his intake isnt going to do anything but make the inside of the grow area smell like the outside.....wow
 
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