Growing in soil = tasteless buds?

ckckck

ckckck

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ganjaluvr said:
I know that this question has been asked thousands of times around here.. but I've got some things to say.

I've got my last 'ICE' plant going right now (from Nirvana). Today is day #51 of flowering (since she showed her first set of pistils).

I took some samples (plant has not been flushed yet, keep that in mind as well). I let them air dry for 6 days to get them dry enough to smoke. The bud tastes GREAT! But! It seems like the great taste of it.. disappears after the first hit (the green hit).

If I continue smoking that bowl, after the first initial 'green hit'... it just tastes like cardboard. That's the best description of the taste that I can think of.

Also, I got to thinking that maybe the potency was lacking in this strain as well.. But.. this morning when I went to the doctor, they told me that I didn't pass my last drug test. In fact.. my "Cannabinoid" level was in the 200's!!!! So, I know that the buds I'm growing out.. do indeed have fairly high levels of THC in them.

So, I've narrowed it down to this... as to why my buds lack taste.

I grow in soil.. and I believe that, that has a very high part into the reason as to why my buds have little to no taste.. after the initial 'green hit', or the first hit off the bowl.

I know genetics play a fairly big part in the taste/smell of the final product. But then again, what you grow in.. the medium you use to grow cannabis in.. will also play a significant part in the products final taste/smell.

Anyone have ANY input on this? I mean, do any of you happen to know of anything that one could put in the water, that won't harm the plant or its root system, but yet still give the plant at least some kind of pleasant taste?

I've thought about putting a few drops of 100% pure lemon juice.. into the water. Since I use bottled water from the store.. to water my plant(s) with.. I could simply put a few drops of lemon into the water. I don't think that would really hurt anything.. but then again I'm not 100% on that.

Anyhow, if anyone has a secret that they don't want to share with everyone.. feel free to msg me on here with the idea that you may have.

Thanks ppl.

peace.:peace:
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mate grew this twice now hydro and it was exactly the same taste like cardboard after some research many people have had the same problem with ice looks good smells ok taste awful
 
JQuick

JQuick

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ganjaluvr said:
of course I didn't cure.

READ what I said. Uggghhh. I knew someone would say this.. LMAO.

I haven't harvested the plant yet bro. I don't cure 'sample' buds. I simply dry them to get an IDEA of what the final product is going to be like.

But yeah, thanks for the reminder about curing I guess. LOL.
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hahaha dude im stoned i forgot leave me alone lol
 
DEEPROOTS

DEEPROOTS

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One drying a sample bud for six days is a long time might be to dry! Dont get so frustrated with people all they are saying is alot of the taste you are looing for will come out after curing you yourself should know this. I think all of us have smoked sample buds and taste like crap a month later big change in taste.
I usually sample to what kind of effects i am getting dont really want couch lock on all plants i dont usually sample for taste. Good luck!! Dont get so frustrated with people.
 
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Wordz

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DEEPROOTS said:
One drying a sample bud for six days is a long time might be to dry! Dont get so frustrated with people all they are saying is alot of the taste you are looing for will come out after curing you yourself should know this. I think all of us have smoked sample buds and taste like crap a month later big change in taste.
I usually sample to what kind of effects i am getting dont really want couch lock on all plants i dont usually sample for taste. Good luck!! Dont get so frustrated with people.
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i disagree if the sample tastes like nothing curing isn't going to magically add flavor. When i sample buds that are ready to harvest I can taste dank. Then they cure and I taste more dank, but if they taste like nothing when harvested they aren't gonna have a strong taste of anything after they cure. Sometimes the pheno just doesn't have much taste or smell.
 
Lil Czr

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It's all in the genes.

That's why people grow out a hundred plants to find a few mothers.

Just because the seeds have a fancy name doesn't meant you're going to get outstanding plants every time.
 
deprave

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Wordz said:
i disagree if the sample tastes like nothing curing isn't going to magically add flavor. When i sample buds that are ready to harvest I can taste dank. Then they cure and I taste more dank, but if they taste like nothing when harvested they aren't gonna have a strong taste of anything after they cure. Sometimes the pheno just doesn't have much taste or smell.
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this guy is right, bottom line is that when you grow from seed you roll the dice it dont matter what strain it is, typical f1-f2 seeds you get online you would need to plant around 200 to find every pheno, some phenos just plain suck, they have low odor and low taste, you can pop 50 beans of one strain with seeds and all 50 could possibly be terrible (unlikely but possible)...you can pop 100 and 10 will taste like citrus, 9 will taste like pine, 15 taste like cardboard, 10 taste like fuel, while the rest taste fruity.

Feeding your plant different things or additives to the soil can enhance flavor indeed, in soil growing I have found both earth worm casting and bat guano tea's to give more flavor in the end result.

anyway, as long as you grow from seed you roll the dice, take your best plants and clone them for consistently good end product, otherwise just pray to jah and have a virgin blow on each seed b4 you plant it and hope for tha best.

Also gunna have to disagree with everyone who said its cause you didnt cure or flush..clearly your problem here is genetics and not on the fault of the breeder but on the fault of you because of your misunderstanding about seed growing f1 thru f19 beans, you should always treat someones opinion on a from seed strain with a grain of salt unless they grew out at least 50 beans. It could also be that you harvested way to early but I kind of doubt that.
One Love <3
 
kingofqueen

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Hey Ganjaluvr ! I feel your pain man . Hate it when the point of a thread gets missed then you get criticised for bs your not concearned with.

I'd say it's the genetics one . Two I just did the same exact thing . Took a sample bud dryed it for a sample of the taste and high . It was organic Pineapple express it smelled ,tasted and looked wonderful .I noticed an instant effect on exhale fruity taste on inhale . TAste just dropp off after the green hits but thats normal . As you smoke the bowl it will taste more and more gross and less like the "green hit" but should retain the flovor somewhat.

I only put RO water , molassas , and lemon juice for ph down my nutes are akaline , in my pots . No flush , its not needed organically just a heavy watering here and there to wash out plant waste and other buildup mainly from the molassas . My flowers turned out preety fat and tasty . BTW last night I found half of that sample bud that I forgot about , after being in the jar for a week solid , there might as well been a skunk in that jar !

(edit) Not to mention guess they dont know you have a Sticky on Harvesting and Curing ! I like that article very simplified .
 
PistilPimp

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I've always had great results with organic soil. I feed my soil with blood, bone, and kelp and allow it to break down for a week or so. Nothing but tap or RO (doesn't really matter much) water all the way through the flowering cycle. Never have I had flavor like organic soil.

I did a plain soil grow with House and Garden nutes, and switched back to organic. Not even close in comparison. If you wanna share some soil recipes PM me or something and we'll chat.
 
s0up

s0up

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i just bought a steak and ate it.

i didn't cook it though why does it taste like blood :(

basically what your sayin lol

My last grow has been all soil and i'm sure they are going to have plenty of taste, I did give nutes but i didn't carbo sweetener load them.
 
darkdestruction420

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ganjaluvr said:
Apparently making this thread was pointless. I've attracted a few brainless people into the mix I think. I'm no "master grower"... not even close man. So, where you get that idea? I don't know.. but I'll be the first to tell you.. I'm no "MASTER" grower. Sorry you feel sad.. go smoke a bowl, maybe you'll feel a little better.

AND! for the second time already, the idea of taking "SAMPLE BUDS", is to get an IDEA of what the final product will/might taste like. Most people that I know of, who take samples?? Yeah, most people I know that do this... don't take the time to "cure" their sample buds. Once again, the idea behind taking a sample.. is simply to let it air-dry long enough to get it to where its smokeable.. to give you (the grower) an IDEA of what the final product might be like.

No idea where you people keep getting the idea that I "cured" the sample that I'm talking about.

Anyhow, I'll figure it out myself.. since the majority of you seem to have a problem with me, even though you don't know me. Its cool though.

peace.
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this is one of the dumbest threads ive seen, you call us brainless yet answer your own stupid obvious question of "why doesnt it taste the best? I didnt flush it or cure it right(which you obviously know is important for taste, since you said "keep in mind i didnt flush it". What did you expect? Dont ask stupid questions and then get obvious answers and then call the people who try to explain it to you brainless.
 
IXOYE

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ganjaluvr said:
Thanks for having an intelligent and civil response to my thread bud.
Appreciate that. :)

yeah, lemon juice I think is high in acids.. therefore would probably screw with my PH levels. I was mainly using lemon juice as an example.

The whole reason I typed up this thread, was in hopes that someone knew of an "additive" that they've used before.. that doesn't mess with the PH levels in the soil.

Anyhow.. thanks for the input bud. +rep
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You can squeeze a couple drops from a lemon (lemon juice is more concentrated) into your water. I use Deep Rock Distilled which has a ph of about 8 to 8.5 and a few drops of fresh squeezed lemon per gallon bring me down to a 6.5 or 7. But I would use a ph meter + I honestly don't see this small amount of lemon juice adding much flavor.

I have taken a couple "sample" buds with some air dry only and they have no real flavor but they do have MAJOR couch-lock effects. Unfortunatly, I think it is the "cure" that's missing here....that and they're too young. Which means, you have an even better product to look forward to in a couple weeks YAY!
 
smokebomb1

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so you say it was a sample, well was it enough to actualy last more than the first hit? did you smoke it to the point of ash on the first hit and then hit it again, making it taste like ass. i dont think that not flushing has anything to do with it, i dont flush and i have great tasting bud. some beleive in flushing and some dont. although, I do beleive you might have dried it too fast. drying needs to be done slowly, with around 60 to 65% humidity and slowly reduced from there. I have dried fast just for samples and it always taste like ass. so i suggest if you want better quality samples, dry and try to cure like you would your whole harvest. just do it earlyer.
 
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Wordz said:
i disagree if the sample tastes like nothing curing isn't going to magically add flavor. When i sample buds that are ready to harvest I can taste dank. Then they cure and I taste more dank, but if they taste like nothing when harvested they aren't gonna have a strong taste of anything after they cure. Sometimes the pheno just doesn't have much taste or smell.
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I Kno this is old, but help is help,and I need it!!!
So I need ur help, cause I'm having curing problems. Are u saying the buds should have the sweet dank taste before they go in jar, AM I CORRECT?? Cause it seems all the flavor is lost, if u allow nugs to dry anymore, after that point.

If u can, check out my thread I started!! CLICK ON ME!
 
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