So we agree on the big picture. The hard part is figuring out where the encroachment begins and it's not always black and white. But that is precisely what our politics SHOULD be about, not this moronic drivel about baby jesus in the courthouse and immigrants.
But what does an uneducated, freedom hating america infesting fucktard like myself know about it....?
Abe23, I must apolgize to you and anyone else that has been ofended by Justines cutting remark.
The Ten Commandments: they have been the foundation for government and moral code for many people and nations.
But the point most people miss regarding them is that if anyone command is broken - someone is hurt.
Do no harm to yourself or another or God if you believe in Him is the under lying theme.
Yet most people turn it into a religious thing and 'damn' them, the Ten, all together, so to speak. Hatred of a simple and common sence code baffels me.
Immigration is much the same way. Illegal immigration deals with the violation of that law. All illegals know they are violating it and still choose to do so.
Do you see any good coming from that kind of law?
Do you see any harm coming from the violation of immigration law?
Is there a 'penalty' or harm done to an
innocent person for the violation of that law?
Any damage or negitive cost incured by an innocent person?
Look at who is harmed by violating a law.
Regarding the Ten Commandments: It's the right of free speach and in the power of the State to present them. No law violated there. And it say the 'Lord thy God' if you have one or not. It applies to you if you do and has now control over you if you don't. That's called free will. You can choose to abide by then or not.
Making Marijuana legal in many states corrected
a created or
legislated harm as it was harmless to begin with.
Look how many lies it took to make it illegal.
Immigration Law were for Idenification and managed control of people coming into this country because without such control, a harm would be created.
Non-enforcement has created the harm that now resides in countless communities.
Proper laws create protection from harm.
Improper laws create harm.
Think about it.
Look at all the laws in that light and then you may see the different types of laws we have.
Most of our laws now adays are Revenue Enhancement Laws in this country.
Why do you think that is?
And who do they harm? Is there a harm to Revenue Enhancement Laws??
BTW The
Love of money IS the root of all evil.
), you're only gonna get the people who are clever or desperate enough to sneak in. I'm all for even harsher border controls if we can let it in enough people legally to cover the needs of our economy. They would have done what you're suggesting under bush, but the pro-business republicans stopped it because it would have been a disaster for the economy. 
