Guide to Nutrient Deficiency or Toxicity

cowboylogic

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james76208

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very imformative there was one on there i had that i actually could have sworn even argued that it was a bug problem thanks
 
treesnowski

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DSC01646.jpgDSC01657.jpgDSC01642.jpgI have posted pictures hoping to get some validation. I am a month into 12/12 and am skeptical about whether or not I'm doing this right. The White Widow is way ahead of the Shiva Skunk, Super Skunk, and White Russian. White Widow is the strain I was least excited about growing too. I also bought Blueberry, but that strain was not keeping up, and growing all deformed so I removed them prior to flowering. I expected Shiva Skunk to be short, since that is what Sensi Seeds says to expect. Actually my best Shiva is as tall as me 5'9", way taller then the tallest White Widow. The fastest growing plants all got topped prior to flowering, and the best plants now are all untopped, so I think I won't be topping anymore, unless it's a root bound issue. As of now it seems as though I might just stick to one or two phenotypes of White Widow and ditch all the others for round two. I desperately need some input from you Roll It Up folks. I want to keep the Shiva Skunk, Super Skunk, and White Russian around, but they seem to flower alot slower if not less than the White Widow. My favorite Phenotype from the Shiva I didn't clone because it looked so shitty during veg. This fact makes me think I should transplant into larger pots, maybe that's why the fastest, strongest plants during veg are the slowest weakest flowers, because they got pot bound? Oh yeah, also I switched the light schedule for 8 plants. I was flip flopping two flower rooms, but changed the photoperiod for one room, so it's on the opposite schedule. Now the switched plants seem a few days behind the others. Also they smell different, they smell more like bananas, or greener, less like sweet resin, more like green vegetation. I just withheld light for 12 hours so they would be in the same light,dark period as the other flower room. I need somebody to tell me it's going to be okay, or I will have a nervous breakdown.
 
nick17gar

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QUICK NOTE: leaves die. at the bottom of the plant, having 1-2 yellow, dried, crumpled leaves = normal. dont freak out and think its an issue.
the plant cares less and less about the leaves at the bottom, they get less light, they dont synthesize as much light, the clorophyll eventually gives up, and it dies. this isnt a sign of overferting, its a sign of growth. if 99% of the plant is ok, and you have a couple of dead leaves at the bottom, and you remove them, and 2 weeks later, omg theres another yellow leaf at the bottom, its ok.
 
nick17gar

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treesnowski said:
View attachment 2108616View attachment 2108617View attachment 2108619I have posted pictures hoping to get some validation. I am a month into 12/12 and am skeptical about whether or not I'm doing this right. The White Widow is way ahead of the Shiva Skunk, Super Skunk, and White Russian. White Widow is the strain I was least excited about growing too. I also bought Blueberry, but that strain was not keeping up, and growing all deformed so I removed them prior to flowering. I expected Shiva Skunk to be short, since that is what Sensi Seeds says to expect. Actually my best Shiva is as tall as me 5'9", way taller then the tallest White Widow. The fastest growing plants all got topped prior to flowering, and the best plants now are all untopped, so I think I won't be topping anymore, unless it's a root bound issue. As of now it seems as though I might just stick to one or two phenotypes of White Widow and ditch all the others for round two. I desperately need some input from you Roll It Up folks. I want to keep the Shiva Skunk, Super Skunk, and White Russian around, but they seem to flower alot slower if not less than the White Widow. My favorite Phenotype from the Shiva I didn't clone because it looked so shitty during veg. This fact makes me think I should transplant into larger pots, maybe that's why the fastest, strongest plants during veg are the slowest weakest flowers, because they got pot bound? Oh yeah, also I switched the light schedule for 8 plants. I was flip flopping two flower rooms, but changed the photoperiod for one room, so it's on the opposite schedule. Now the switched plants seem a few days behind the others. Also they smell different, they smell more like bananas, or greener, less like sweet resin, more like green vegetation. I just withheld light for 12 hours so they would be in the same light,dark period as the other flower room. I need somebody to tell me it's going to be okay, or I will have a nervous breakdown.
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those plants look great. kinda late to transplant, i try to stick them in the final largest pots about a week before i switch to flower.
regarding strains, i have about 5, some are uppers, some are downers. i prefer the head high upper plant, but i would never toss out a stain. variety is the spice of life, and sometimes ya wanna get the couchlock going on.

your plants look awesome dude. chill out. some grow faster then others, some make more buds then others, some make more buds than others, but hella slower. each stain is vastly different, and in each strain, each plant is different. for best results, tailor what you feed them for each plant, give them time, and dont stress.

id be happy with those babies. nice full plants, good amount of bud growth, resin forming on the leaves, you got time left til harvest. dont spend it freaking out. get yourself a guitar/banjo/harmonica, and jam out,, sing to them, talk to them, talk dirty to them, whatever.
bongsmilie <--- soon.
 
treesnowski

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still learing said:
whats this
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I wish I could help. All I know is I have that same droopy issue with some plants too. Some plants of the same strain don't do it at all while some do. I'm guessing something wrong with the root zone, but I just go along and treat them the same as the other plants, and some of the droopy ones rebound and catch up if not surpass the others. I would like a definitive answer too. People say maybe nitrogen toxicity, but the leaves can be yellowed half way up the stalk while the darker tops do the slouch.
 
treesnowski

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I'll share my opinion about nitrogen during flowering. Don't do this or that, depending on what popular belief is. I am using the same nutrients on four strains, and some are definitely getting enough nitrogen while some have yellow fan leaves all the way up the plant, and I still have 3 weeks left of flowering before harvest. I should probably treat all these different needs individually, but when I step in the grow room I just start staring and admiring all the beautiful flowers, and don't get around to everything I should do. I'm using the Botanicare CNS17 line, and the ripe definitely doesn't have enough nitrogen for any of my strains, so I end up adding 2 parts ripe (1-5-4) and 1 part bloom (2-2-3) and I'm still having alot of premature yellowing.
 
nick17gar

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treesnowski said:
I'll share my opinion about nitrogen during flowering. Don't do this or that, depending on what popular belief is. I am using the same nutrients on four strains, and some are definitely getting enough nitrogen while some have yellow fan leaves all the way up the plant, and I still have 3 weeks left of flowering before harvest. I should probably treat all these different needs individually, but when I step in the grow room I just start staring and admiring all the beautiful flowers, and don't get around to everything I should do. I'm using the Botanicare CNS17 line, and the ripe definitely doesn't have enough nitrogen for any of my strains, so I end up adding 2 parts ripe (1-5-4) and 1 part bloom (2-2-3) and I'm still having alot of premature yellowing.
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yea nitrogen while flowering is a debated issue. i personally, still feed it nitrogen. i cant stand yellowing or whatever. besides it helping the plant continue to grow, it strengthens the roots, the stems, etc... the key is to not overfeed nitrogen in flowering, the plant uses very little of it, so overfeeding happens a lot, and then you get smaller nugs. if you decide to add nitrogen during flower, dont do much. usually the first 2-3 weeks in flower i feed about 1/2 strength nitrogen/veg nutes, then taper it down to about 1/3rd or 1/4th strength
 
Futurama89

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Hey guys im having a little bit of deficiency problems on my outdoor grow, the strain is Iranian Autoflower/ShortSeason, and she's a light feeder from what ive been told so ive been giving 1/4 stregth nutes and im thinking maybe i should have given full strength micro-blast(i use FULL earth juice lineup).

Would love some expert advice over here, i think its a magnesium deficiency, and looks low on nitrogen but thats what ive heard shes an exceptionally low feeder on so i do want to be carefull of to much N.
DEF 1.jpg This is the worst one, quite a bit of dead/rusty spots, and browning of the leaf, tad crunchy to the touch, leaves curling down slightly.
DEF 2.jpg This on has a small whitish oval appearing dead center of the leaf, tad crunchy to the touch, leaves curling down/in slightly.
DEF 3.jpg This one has a brown spot, could be from a tea feeding(im only feeding teas) tried rubbing it lightly and it might have faded dont want to rub my leaf though........

ANY AND ALL HELP IS APPRECIATED HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH THE NUTES ON THESE LADIES!!!!!!
 
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