Im sorry Howard and Bronto, I cant find it now.. I couldnt get onto rollitup for a few hours yesterday(wasnt working I guess) , so I browsed several other forums and now cant remember which one. But, I saw someone who grew them and said that they came out really nice with nice, stinky, fruity buds.. although lots of variety. Mine just never really started flowering.. I have more though maybe Ill give them another whirl some other time. Right now I have too many other killer strains to grow. I just germed my Exile yesterday and they all cracked in like 10 hours. Also germed one Big Bang which hasnt cracked yet. Gypsy just emailed me saying he got my MO for the MK Ultra, so, hopefully he has some new freebies he is sending now.. my Mikado which says flowering time :42-45 days is still flowering now and its been 68 days. wtf?