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H2O2 - has anyone tried this?

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Aqua Man

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macsnax said:
Ya bad shit can def get through ro. There was a thread a while back and the dude had really bad root rot, took him a minute to figure it out. Water source was the issue even though it was ran through ro.
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Yeah I was just thinking about that. While RO let's bacteria through it also let's chlorine/chloramine through so in most cases you would not need to treat RO water. Now most have a charcoal filter that will remove chlorine and chloramine and Voc's. So if the water is fresh from your typical RO unit it should be relatively free of bacteria, chlorine and chloraone. But this is all dependant on the state and quality of filters used.
 
zypheruk

zypheruk

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I started running uv sterilization a few months back and will not look back. Plain tap water and uv is very under estimated.My bank account is a lot happier now. Ro Is not required.




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OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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zypheruk said:
I started running uv sterilization a few months back and will no look back. Plain tap water and uv is very under estimated. Ro Is not required.

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So how's the ppm in your tap water? UV does nothing to change that and that's the main reason to use RO water. Our town water here is close to 300ppm and has lots of stuff like high sodium I wouldn't want to give myself or my plants. I don't get town water and my dugout water is more like 400ppm and has lots of farmer runoff in as well. pH 8+ too.

Do you know what's in your water? Should get a water analysis report from your supplier to find out for sure.
 
zypheruk

zypheruk

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Im lucky enough to have a good tap water ec0.2-0.4, and I understand that, that will not be the case with everyone but ro is not always the answer. I was more less referring to Aqua Man and the bacteria side of things. Either way well off the topic of H202 now, more hydro than soil lol. More butter I say, OldMedUser I had too look twice to make sure it was yourself as the new avatar threw me off lol.
 
macsnax

macsnax

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Aqua Man said:
Yeah I was just thinking about that. While RO let's bacteria through it also let's chlorine/chloramine through so in most cases you would not need to treat RO water. Now most have a charcoal filter that will remove chlorine and chloramine and Voc's. So if the water is fresh from your typical RO unit it should be relatively free of bacteria, chlorine and chloraone. But this is all dependant on the state and quality of filters used.
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Ya he was way up north, hauling in non potable water if I remember right. Def worth keeping in mind. There was a handful of us trying to help him, and for the most part we were stumped with what he had going on.
 
macsnax

macsnax

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zypheruk said:
I started running uv sterilization a few months back and will not look back. Plain tap water and uv is very under estimated.My bank account is a lot happier now. Ro Is not required.




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I've been looking into treating my water with ozone, but I'm starting to lean more toward UV. How much is the unit you're using? How much does it treat/time?
 
zypheruk

zypheruk

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@macs its a 28 watt inline uv sterilizer for ponds cant mind exactly 2000 litres or something but way over kill for my use to be honest, but it works. I grow my plants in a diy cabinet but after each grow I run a ozone machine to sterilize the room and grow space pots and everything in it. But for the water treatment I went uv, the only downside to the uv is that it can remove the macro nutrients iron and a few others but I have that covered using Ionic Nutrients and UV Balance.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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flowerpower0118 said:
I am a first year, greenhouse soil grower and have problems with over watering. Watering can be tricky in a greenhouse environment. Since the area gets lots of ventilation and sun with shelter from rain, I usually need to water more often. I find a smaller amount more often is better than a large amount every few days.
However this being hard to judge and me not completely knowing what Im doing, and stoned most of the time, i have a overwatering problem.

The problem got really bad when my well dried out. I had to order water from a different source.

Aaaand I forgot to PH first.

Ontop of slight signs of overwatering, my plants locked out their food and turned all kinds of bad colors.

To fix this:
I fed PH perfect water for a few waterings.
Then added Liquid Fish Fertilizer 5-2-2 to their water.

After a couple days they werw showing signs of new green growth.
Even yellowing leaves started to green.

I was at my local feed store and they were having a 50% off sale on nutes! Yaay!
They had a sparce selection, andsince I already have a formula I like my attention was drawn to a bottle I didnt recognize....

H2O2 Liquid 29% Oxidizer
from Nutrilife Plant Products
"An Oxygen Source For Water"

Okay. Gotta Try That!

I took it home and added it to my regiment right away.
Within 24 hours I noticed an explosion in new growth! Although this could be due to the fertilizer, I have high hopes.

Does anyone else have any experience with this product or something similar?
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It's for sterilizing!
 
flowerpower0118

flowerpower0118

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OldMedUser said:
So how's the ppm in your tap water? UV does nothing to change that and that's the main reason to use RO water. Our town water here is close to 300ppm and has lots of stuff like high sodium I wouldn't want to give myself or my plants. I don't get town water and my dugout water is more like 400ppm and has lots of farmer runoff in as well. pH 8+ too.

Do you know what's in your water? Should get a water analysis report from your supplier to find out for sure.
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I have two wells. One well is used for regular agriculture and goes through a carbon filter.

The second well goes into the house. This is the water I use in the greenhouse. It goes through a carbon filter, UV, and water softening system.

However I was experimenting with mixing my own dirt with cooked manure from my barn pile.
For some of the pots I ran out of potting soil for mix and used top soil instead.
My mixture has tooo much clay and not enough drainage. Thats what is causing my root rot.

Ive repotted everyone that I could.
 
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Aqua Man

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flowerpower0118 said:
I have two wells. One well is used for regular agriculture and goes through a carbon filter.

The second well goes into the house. This is the water I use in the greenhouse. It goes through a carbon filter, UV, and water softening system.

However I was experimenting with mixing my own dirt with cooked manure from my barn pile.
For some of the pots I ran out of potting soil for mix and used top soil instead.
My mixture has tooo much clay and not enough drainage. Thats what is causing my root rot.

Ive repotted everyone that I could.
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You won't want to use water that has gone through a water softener. It will be very high in sodium
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Aqua Man said:
You won't want to use water that has gone through a water softener. It will be very high in sodium
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I'll 2nd that for sure. There was a water softener here when I bought the place using potassium chloride instead of calcium chloride but I'm pretty sure it wasn't working right. The dugout water was about 400ppm but out of the tap after treatment it was near 800. After a few months and paying 3x as much for the KCL over the NaCl I switched it to bypass and never looked back.

I'm going to have to replace the whole system one of these days and wonder if I could sell that softener. Whoever set it up originally screwed the pooch. The water goes thru a basic metal screen filter first then into the pressure tank at the bottom. Where it comes out it then goes thru a 30 then a 5 micron filter and on to the house.

It should go thru all the filters before it hits the pressure tank. The sediment has to be flushed out of there every year, (which reminds me ;) ), or every time the pump kicks in it stirs it up and plugs up the finer filters faster.

When the old guy was showing me how to change filters he was putting the 5 micron filter upstream of the 30 while telling me how the 5 plugs up faster than the 30. No shit Sherlock! I explained what he was doing wrong and he really had to think about it but then had a DOH! moment. Guess he'd been doing it that way for years. :D

I want to rig up the new system with a 30, 5 and a high capacity 1 micron before the water goes into the pressure tank. Should only cost around $1000 for all the parts and I can do the job myself. Won't be the first time we haven't had running water in the house for a week or so. Hoping for a 3 day fix. Depends on how many trips I have to make to the hardware store for various parts and fittings. lol

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macsnax

macsnax

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zypheruk said:
@macs its a 28 watt inline uv sterilizer for ponds cant mind exactly 2000 litres or something but way over kill for my use to be honest, but it works. I grow my plants in a diy cabinet but after each grow I run a ozone machine to sterilize the room and grow space pots and everything in it. But for the water treatment I went uv, the only downside to the uv is that it can remove the macro nutrients iron and a few others but I have that covered using Ionic Nutrients and UV Balance.
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I totally missed you replying to me, my bad. Good info thank you..
 
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