hairs still white at week 8 REPLY ! whats your sugestion?

harley420

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Hey guys I have just recently changed my strains to chemdog and bluecitydiesel, well the chemdog are in the first few days of week 8 and there is still primarily white hairs I ususaly wait untill mostly all the hairs turn brown and recied into the flowers, but these flowers are looking much more mature than previous grows and the hairs are about 75% white still, should I wait another week or so to see if the hairts recied into the flowers ? Bcz I don't like the trichs being over 20 % amber what's your oppinion ?
 

potroastV2

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Chemdawg and diesels are sativa-dominant, so they may appear to be finishing in week 8 or 9 but they require longer for the resins to ripen. Let them flower for 10-11 weeks, and then decide.


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harley420

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Ahahah def if a was a noob that would be a downer I am very happy to hear this bcz two of my ladies are stellar vigorous growth mythird chemy is about a week bahind her sisters sso that makes me happy I thought she was a runt :) thanks guys
 

NEONKINEBUDZ

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I would recommend a 30x or 60x jewelers loupe. They can be had for about $4. But if you are going to go off the pistils, then I would wait at least another week. Sativa dominant strains can take longer. You obviously have had success with this method. I am a fan of 20% amber as well but I have always used a loupe or handheld microscope as it is the only real way to fully know what the trichs look like . I would be patient. I have had a few strains (sativa dominant) where the bud structure looked really mature, but the pistils were about 75% white. The trichs at that time were just starting to turn milky.
 

harley420

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Yeah, thanks for the info I have the loupe already I was just wondering about the pistils never had a strain with white pistils when the fan leafs are dryingup and yellowing bcz of maturation, the breeder recommended 9 weeks but you recommend 10 I11 for sativa dominant you think I should go over the recommended flowering time ? Thanks for the info guys I switch strains every few years once I get all the specs on these down will be great, the flowers are huge ! Its just odd I have never seen the fan be eaten up by the flowers so fast and have the actual buds still with 75% white hairs there very healthyi can't wait to post pics up for u guys this week on Tuesday :)
 

hotrodharley

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Late pistil development usually is strain related and is basically a sign the plant is in conditions favorable for survival. In short it is still ready to be pollinated.
 

harley420

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And I do massive individual scrog 4 x 4 on each 8-9 foot monster I let veg until they fill out 60 75 % of the net then start flower they end up being about 9 foot at finish yielding anywhere from 1 1/4 - 1 3/4 lbs per plant that is 1 1000 watt hps per plant mind you, I know people that have cropped 2 even over 2 lbs per plant depending on strain, if anyone wants the info on how to grow this way just ask I will start a thread.
 

harley420

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Late pistil development usually is strain related and is basically a sign the plant is in conditions favorable for survival. In short it is still ready to be pollinated.
So what would u recommend for estimates flowertime ? 9 weeks or more around 10-11
 

potroastV2

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The easiest appearance indicator of maturity is the number of "white hairs." If you are still seeing mostly white hairs (viable pistils) on Day 60, then she could probably go for 80-90 days. That would be for a mostly-sativa strain.


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1) No alarm... White hairs, along with indicating immaturity, sometimes just indicate strain. I had (3) Easy Ryders who's hairs hardly turned 40% orange, even though the buds were super dusted... And I mean dusted like a bookshelf in an abandoned building. Irregardless, the trichomes were totally milky and the buds were totally ripe. 2) If you want to speed maturity up... Cut the lighting to 11 on/13 off or even 10/14. As long as you're not overwatering, this will not cause problems... It will hasten the ripening process. You do sacrifice some size, though... But not by much. It's worth doing.
 

topfuel29

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Peak Floral Stage
Elongation growth of the main floral stem ceases at this stage, and floral clusters gain most of their size through the addition of more calyxes along the secondary stems until they cover the primary stem tips in an overlapping spiral. Small reduced mono-leaflet and tri-leaflet leaves subtend each pair of calyxes emerging from secondary stems within the floral clusters. These subtending leaves are correctly referred to as bracts. Outer leaves begin to wilt and turn yellow as the pistillate plant reaches its reproductive peak. In the primordial calyxes the pistils have turned brown; however, all but the oldest of the flowers are fertile and the floral clusters are white with many pairs of ripe pistils. Resin secretion is quite advanced in some of the older infertile calyxes, and the young pistillate calyxes are rapidly producing capitate-stalked glandular trichomes to protect the precious unfertilized ovule. Under wild conditions the pistillate plant would be starting to form seeds and the cycle would be drawing to a close. When Cannabis is grown for sinsemilla floral production, the cycle is interrupted. Pistillate plants remain unfertilized and begin to produce capitate -stalked trichomes and accumulate resins in a last effort to remain viable. Since capitate- stalked trichomes now predominate, resin and THC production increase. The elevated resin heads appear clear, since fresh resin is still being secreted, often being produced in the cellular head of the trichome. At this time THC acid production is at a peak and CBD acid levels remain stable as the molecules are rapidly converted to THC acids, THC acid synthesis has not been active long enough for a high level of CBN acid to build up from the degradation of THC acid by light and heat. Terpene production is also nearing a peak and the floral clusters are beautifully aromatic. Many cultivators prefer to pick some of their strains during this stage in order to produce marijuana with a clear, cerebral, psychoactive effect. It is believed that, in peak floral clusters, the low levels of CBD and CBN allow the high level of THC to act without their sedative effects. Also, little polymerization of resins has occurred, so aromas and tastes are often less resinous and tar like than at later stages. Many strains, if they are harvested in the peak floral stage, lack the completely developed aroma, taste and psychoactive level that appear after curing. Cultivators wait longer for the resins to mature if a different taste and psychoactive effect is desired.
This is the point of optimum harvest for some strains, since most additional calyx growth has ceased. However, a subsequent flush of new calyx growth may occur and the plant continue ripening into the late floral stage.
 

harley420

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Thanks guys ! I def agree I got a better loupe today and see only. About 5 % amber so I'm going to wait another 5 days thanks all :)
 

Bigby

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Move light further away from plant tops, switch lights to 11/13 by decreasing in 15 minute drops every couple of days or so.
 
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