Haiti earhquake

So why would a state however devastated just want to give up there sovereignty to America????? Don't try and paint a picture of bad situation that allows the possibility of good coming from it. If that was the case then the past devastation could have been a catalyst. Do you really think cuba wants to 'stand stronger' with the US? You are naive and show that your grasp of politics and nation state identity is very poor.

CrackerJax said:

I was all lined up to do some serious work in Haiti this year..... now it's all up in the air. These ppl just can't catch a break can they?

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Not in the last two hundred years.

Woomeister said:

Its all about me me, me, me.....moron.You see 1000's of little children crushed/trapped in schools an opportunity, you fucking entrepreneur, give yourself a pat on the back for such a brilliant idea.

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You're obviously a liberal media junkie too. I see you took more than 3/4 of my idea, cut it out of the parts you wanted to hear, and left it on the editing room floor.

The only part you even focused on was the "opportunity" part and you failed to notice that I mentioned the "Western World" which includes the U.K. YOU moron. Granted it is part of the European Union too but for the most part it is considered Westernized.

CrackerJax said:

They are in desperate need of erosion control. They basically have no trees left, and the mountains escalate the danger of mudslides and lost food crops. I have been working in tandem with a few Not For Profit Org's trying to set up several large nurseries to grow my "special" plant, which would have solved many problems for them.

Now it is all up in the air. I wanted to help them.....

Nuclear energy isn't feasible as far as costs go. It is incredibly difficult to build and maintain one. It's far cheaper to build coal plants instead. But they have no coal. They have little of anything.

You seem to know nothing of that country.

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is your special plant legal ?

CrackerJax said:

They are in desperate need of erosion control. They basically have no trees left, and the mountains escalate the danger of mudslides and lost food crops. I have been working in tandem with a few Not For Profit Org's trying to set up several large nurseries to grow my "special" plant, which would have solved many problems for them.

Now it is all up in the air. I wanted to help them.....

Nuclear energy isn't feasible as far as costs go. It is incredibly difficult to build and maintain one. It's far cheaper to build coal plants instead. But they have no coal. They have little of anything.

You seem to know nothing of that country.

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Blue rug Juniper?

lopezri said:

You're obviously a liberal media junkie too. I see you took more than 3/4 of my idea, cut it out of the parts you wanted to hear, and left it on the editing room floor.

The only part you even focused on was the "opportunity" part and you failed to notice that I mentioned the "Western World" which includes the U.K. YOU moron. Granted it is part of the European Union too but for the most part it is considered Westernized.

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Thankyou for including me.....I watch reuters and BBC, hardly liberal. I also vote Consevative before you push any more incorrect political assertions my way. Of course I instantly brought up your use of the word opportunity, in this instance it is misguided, to be polite.

Woomeister said:

So why would a state however devastated just want to give up there sovereignty to America????? Don't try and paint a picture of bad situation that allows the possibility of good coming from it. If that was the case then the past devastation could have been a catalyst. Do you really think cuba wants to 'stand stronger' with the US? You are naive and show that your grasp of politics and nation state identity is very poor.

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The reason you feel this way is because all you see is what the U.K. has done in the past with colonizing in every other part of the world.

We wouldn't be doing this to take over their land. Nearly every Haitian is trying to get out of Haiti anyway. Maybe if you lived in Florida you would understand better. Haiti is a completely distraught nation. Considered to be the poorest nation in the Western World. Their infrastructure, even their water system was a disaster BEFORE any devestation. The U.S. has provided billions of dollars in aid to them in the past to try to help them but it always ends up in the hands of corrupt political leaders.

Woomeister said:

Thankyou for including me.....I watch reuters and BBC, hardly liberal. I also vote Consevative before you push any more incorrect political assertions my way. Of course I instantly brought up your use of the word opportunity, in this instance it is misguided, to be polite.

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It's misguided to use the word "opportunity" to help millions of people in addition to financially helping thousands more move away from a land of devestation so they may have food, fresh water, healthcare?

lopezri said:

The reason you feel this way is because all you see is what the U.K. has done in the past with colonizing in every other part of the world.

We wouldn't be doing this to take over their land. Nearly every Haitian is trying to get out of Haiti anyway. Maybe if you lived in Florida you would understand better. Haiti is a completely distraught nation. Considered to be the poorest nation in the Western World. Their infrastructure, even their water system was a disaster BEFORE any devestation. The U.S. has provided billions of dollars in aid to them in the past to try to help them but it always ends up in the hands of corrupt political leaders.

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Im glad you feel you understand me so well!
I understand Haiti very well thanks and know that the it is the oldest black republic in th eworld and second oldest in the Western world, as such they, however downtrodden, will want to keep hold of their independence. Something you believe should be outsourced to the US for a pipe dream about nuclear power and stabilising Cuba...When you finish school come back at me!

lopezri said:

It's misguided to use the word "opportunity" to help millions of people in addition to financially helping thousands more move away from a land of devestation so they may have food, fresh water, healthcare?

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keep on spinning!

Woomeister said:

keep on spinning!

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Spinning what? If we did this it would help. BTW the BBC is extremely liberal! I have to appologize though, I keep forgetting that the U.K. is a Nanny State.

You forget that entrepreneurship is really what keeps economies going. Of course, if your Nanny State keeps forcing their liberal agendas down your throat you'll never notice it. How is that liberal socialism working out in England anyway?

lopezri said:

Spinning what? If we did this it would help. BTW the BBC is extremely liberal! I have to appologize though, I keep forgetting that the U.K. is a Nanny State.

You forget that entrepreneurship is really what keeps economies going. Of course, if your Nanny State keeps forcing their liberal agendas down your throat you'll never notice it. How is that liberal socialism working out in England anyway?

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As an entrepreneur with 4 businesses I dont find any issues thanks. Hows your economy doing?

The BBC is about as conservative as it gets, notice I spelled that with a small c.....Americans believe the BBC is Liberal (your version) because the BBC uses impartiality and reports on things like anti war protests. This hardly makes them liberal you fool.
Nanny state...? People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....

Woomeister said:

As an entrepreneur with 4 businesses I dont find any issues thanks. Hows your economy doing?

The BBC is about as conservative as it gets, notice I spelled that with a small c.....Americans believe the BBC is Liberal (your version) because the BBC uses impartiality and reports on things like anti war protests. This hardly makes them liberal you fool.
Nanny state...? People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....

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Come on everyone, Listen to Woo!
This guy has four businesses, a Hamster with two heads, lives next to a nuclear power plant. his closest neighbors are 60 miles away, He can clone a marijuana plant from a leaf, and he runs two eBay stores with his father who lives 100 miles away! The only thing you have that Woo does not have is a camera that is able to upload pictures to the internet. So leave Woo alone!!!!!!!!!!!!


We love Woo!!!!

Woomeister said:

As an entrepreneur with 4 businesses I dont find any issues thanks. Hows your economy doing?

The BBC is about as conservative as it gets, notice I spelled that with a small c.....Americans believe the BBC is Liberal (your version) because the BBC uses impartiality and reports on things like anti war protests. This hardly makes them liberal you fool.
Nanny state...? People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....

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Okay, whatever. You just don't like the idea because a Yank came up with the idea, not the tree hugging U.K. but that's okay. I have to admit though, I've never seen protesting here, other than the Teabaggers, like they had out in front of Parliament when I went to London.

Our economy sucks, that's why I think we could still use a devestating disaster to try to make some great progress forward. It's not that I don't care about the people there, that's why I think the U.S. would be best to help financially to move the people that are remaining, out of there, so they can get their needs fulfilled. As far as capitalizing Conservative. . . I do it because I truly feel that we have a new party system growing out of the Republican party that call themselves Conservatives, not Republicans. They aren't the far right whack jobs or religious zealots. They're more of a moderate group that really just wants smaller government, less intrusion in our lives, more freedoms to do what we want as long as we don't hurt people, and less government (Black Ops) spending.

So now I've appologized just for having my own opinion. Just remember that you used the words "idiot", "moron", and "fucking entrepreneur" first. I tried to stay clear of the personal insults.

Just a couple more things. . . not to antagonize. . . just a reminder. Remember that the United States was ATTACKED first which caused us to go to war, not the other way around. It has ALWAYS been the policy of the United States to declare war on another country if we get attacked on our own soil. So as far as all these war protesters go. . . let's see how they react when their tallest buildings in their country get toppled by another group of people backed by "incognito" governments. Also, a reminder. . . it has ALWAYS been the policy of the United States to protect their oil interests, no matter who is threatening it.

lopezri said:

Yeah, that's it! No you idiot! I DO feel bad for the people there! But as much bad as I feel, it just doesn't seem to bring back the dead, now does it?

This ISN'T about the U.S. as a government or world police or whatever your convoluted little mind is wrapped around. This idea is about helping millions of people! It would help the people of Haiti to live better lives without being fearful of dictatorial tyrants, it would help the economies of both the Dominican Republic AND the U.S., and it would help the U.S., the Dominican Republic, Haiti, and Cuba to join forces together to be able to stand stronger as a unified group of governmental bodies.

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This was the start. I respect your ability to apologise and if I have offended you then it was because of the hatred I hold for expansionism through misfortune. Peace.

Treahuggers?????? lmao. If only you knew...

Woomeister said:

Its all about me me, me, me.....moron.You see 1000's of little children crushed/trapped in schools an opportunity, you fucking entrepreneur, give yourself a pat on the back for such a brilliant idea.

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Actually. . . THIS is what started it!. So much for SPIN.

Samatha Green said:

Come on everyone, Listen to Woo!
This guy has four businesses, a Hamster with two heads, lives next to a nuclear power plant. his closest neighbors are 60 miles away, He can clone a marijuana plant from a leaf, and he runs two eBay stores with his father who lives 100 miles away! The only thing you have that Woo does not have is a camera that is able to upload pictures to the internet. So leave Woo alone!!!!!!!!!!!!


We love Woo!!!!

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Stalker..........Lol at the hamster story, started by a group of us on here for a bit of fun. My nearest neighbour is much closer than 60 miles, no idea where you got that from, you obviously dont know how small the Uk is. I actually live 2 miles from a decomissioned power station and 10 miles from a working one. Is that strange to you? Go back in your hole weirdo...

shnkrmn said:

Not in the last two hundred years.

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Boy, ain't that the truth.....

Big P said:

is your special plant legal ?

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Yes, but it was being brought into Haiti illegally, because of corruption and the long long customs waits over there. My stock would have died in some warehouse, so we smuggled it in with a "secret method" I'd rather not divulge.
It was for the greater good, just know that.

Woomeister said:

Blue rug Juniper?

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No, not even close ... I will tell you this much, this plant is the end all erosion control biological unit. It would have fixed many many problems for them.... i hope it still can. I don't care about the money, never did. I gave them rock bottom pricing, and then they came back for more.... and asked about any further reduction as a possibility. I just replied that any more reduction would turn me into a NPO ... We all laughed and then the big contract was being set up ... now? ... I think they need food and clothing. Perhaps next year.... I hope ... for their sakes.

lopezri said:

Actually. . . THIS is what started it!. So much for SPIN.

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Lmao, so it was!