I have ordered from them several times. Always got my gear plus freebies. Every bean I dropped came up and grew as it should. My skills limited the plants and I had new grower problems, but the plants did what they were supposed to. They always seem to start with good to great genetics, but they are just chuckin pollen so if you see something you really think you'll like, buy a few packs because once it's gone, it's gone. From what I've seen, they don't work their crosses to get them to a certain point. They just chuck pollen and make beans and move onto the next project. Have no fear, your beans will show up.