Happy Frog?

Oldguyrealy

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I'm getting low on Compost so I'll be in the city.

Thinking of getting some Happy Frog. I was wondering about putting some Perlite in it about how much.

Could get some Ocean Forest and mix the two.

Open for idea's?
 

GreenGenez421

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I'm getting low on Compost so I'll be in the city.

Thinking of getting some Happy Frog. I was wondering about putting some Perlite in it about how much.

Could get some Ocean Forest and mix the two.

Open for idea's?
HUH?
Me personally I'd stay away from ff products. I'm not a fan and have had more problems than I care to discuss. Compost, leaf mold, and ewc is GOLD! Add some perlite or aggregate and your good. It all comes down to CEC and drainage. Also the method in which you choose to fertilizer. Don't play into the big brand BS. Their goal is to keep you buying more of their products
 

Oldguyrealy

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We use to use just Happy Frog. Then I

started mixing my own.

I have about 80 pounds of mix but I'm getting ready to start many other plants.

As far as Leaf Mold all my Leaves went into my Lawn to losen it up.

I have some Peat Moss and Perlite.
 
We use to use just Happy Frog. Then I

started mixing my own.

I have about 80 pounds of mix but I'm getting ready to start many other plants.

As far as Leaf Mold all my Leaves went into my Lawn to losen it up.

I have some Peat Moss and Perlite.
I have done that and was very surprised how well it actually worked out. I just don’t have access to those facilities now that I’m back home. So, I been buying happy frog here local. As a matter of fact they’d never heard of it until I mentioned it. They’ve every kind of it now. But, Happy Frog Soil in the brown bag is what I use. I do some clones, and some Seed plants. It seems to be some great dirt. I’ve been using it since 2010.
 

Oldguyrealy

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Was just looking and my big pile is cooking pretty good. I won't need any until late March.

I used bunch of my soil on my garden and beds. The one pile is being stubborn but I put some water in it and covered it and going to turn it again in couple days.

I only use ten gallons per mix. So I might just get Peat Moss and Perlite.

I used bunch of soil filling 3 Raised Beds in my Greenhouse. And will probably use a bunch Tomato Planting time. Going to put a bunch in Buckets again.

Building a Grow Room with two Doors making it easier with a Wheelchair.

Hey should I buy some Fish Emulsion while I'm there. Never used it but was going to make some soon as I get a ride to go fishing.
 

GreenGenez421

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Hey should I buy some Fish Emulsion while I'm there. Never used it but was going to make some soon as I get a ride to go fishing.
Now your speaking my language! Store bought emulsion is OK at best. It works but if you really want to see superior results go with hydrolysate.

The main difference between fish hydrolysate and fish emulsion is the manufacturing process:

Fish hydrolysate
Made through a cold-pressed liquefaction process, fish hydrolysate retains the fish's oils and proteins. It's a rich source of nutrients for soil microbes and fungi, and can be used as a soil fertilizer, added to compost piles, or used in worm farms.

Fish emulsion
Made by heating fish to break down solids and remove oils and proteins, fish emulsion is thick and has a consistency similar to molasses. It can be difficult to handle and may clog sprayers or get stuck in holding tanks.

Other differences between fish hydrolysate and fish emulsion include:
Production costs: Fish hydrolysate has lower production costs than fish emulsion.
Aroma: Fish hydrolysate doesn't have an unpleasant aroma.
Chemicals: Fish hydrolysate isn't made with harsh chemicals.

If your feeling ambitious and want to make your own, you'll need to first make LAB serum. (Lactic Acid Bacteria) Now i won't go into the process or steps because it's easily found with a simple YouTube search, but it sounds like you may have a compost tumbler or pile. If so, I'd recommend you compost the curd that's generally discarded from the culturing process of making LAB serum. That's alot of protein right there, and proteins are huge in organics, especially when they're enzymatic digested, such as with fermentation.

Once you have the serum made, the options are almost unlimited what you can do with it. I mainly use it for making fermented extracts, immediately bio-available foliar or drench. Waste not, want not.... good luck!
 

Oldguyrealy

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Now your speaking my language! Store bought emulsion is OK at best. It works but if you really want to see superior results go with hydrolysate.

The main difference between fish hydrolysate and fish emulsion is the manufacturing process:

Fish hydrolysate
Made through a cold-pressed liquefaction process, fish hydrolysate retains the fish's oils and proteins. It's a rich source of nutrients for soil microbes and fungi, and can be used as a soil fertilizer, added to compost piles, or used in worm farms.

Fish emulsion
Made by heating fish to break down solids and remove oils and proteins, fish emulsion is thick and has a consistency similar to molasses. It can be difficult to handle and may clog sprayers or get stuck in holding tanks.

Other differences between fish hydrolysate and fish emulsion include:
Production costs: Fish hydrolysate has lower production costs than fish emulsion.
Aroma: Fish hydrolysate doesn't have an unpleasant aroma.
Chemicals: Fish hydrolysate isn't made with harsh chemicals.

If your feeling ambitious and want to make your own, you'll need to first make LAB serum. (Lactic Acid Bacteria) Now i won't go into the process or steps because it's easily found with a simple YouTube search, but it sounds like you may have a compost tumbler or pile. If so, I'd recommend you compost the curd that's generally discarded from the culturing process of making LAB serum. That's alot of protein right there, and proteins are huge in organics, especially when they're enzymatic digested, such as with fermentation.

Once you have the serum made, the options are almost unlimited what you can do with it. I mainly use it for making fermented extracts, immediately bio-available foliar or drench. Waste not, want not.... good luck!
Sounds good to me!

At this time I have thousands of plants besides Weed and trying to sell them during the Summer to tourists.

I was going to put up a Rebel Flag son says oh it will scare customers off so he got a sign.

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LOL
 

Oldguyrealy

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If it were me, I'd be looking for a bail of peat, a big bag of perlite, compost, leaf mold, coco coir, soft/hardwood mulch and castings. Make your own substrate brotha
I'm mixing 1 part Peat Moss, 1 part Top Soil, 1part Perlite and 2 parts Compost. If I have them quarter part Worm Castings. Add small amounts of Rainbow Pro Grow, Lime and Wood Ash.

If I am repotting I save the soil and put part Compost in it and Rainbow Pro Grow, Lime and Wood Ash.

I'm running low because I filled 3 raised beds in my Greenhouse for Winter Vegetables.
 

GreenGenez421

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I'm mixing 1 part Peat Moss, 1 part Top Soil, 1part Perlite and 2 parts Compost. If I have them quarter part Worm Castings. Add small amounts of Rainbow Pro Grow, Lime and Wood Ash.

If I am repotting I save the soil and put part Compost in it and Rainbow Pro Grow, Lime and Wood Ash.

I'm running low because I filled 3 raised beds in my Greenhouse for Winter Vegetables.
Topsoil is essentially compost FYI, they just add sand. It has very little nutrient value and commonly is a "spot filler" for things like grading or patching. It'll work but you'd be much better off using leaf mold in its place.

Also is this for beds or containers? It seems a bit soggy for containers, I'd increase drainage. Wood mulch (fines not bark or nuggets) or more perlite. For beds tho you have a decent mix.
 

Oldguyrealy

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Topsoil is essentially compost FYI, they just add sand. It has very little nutrient value and commonly is a "spot filler" for things like grading or patching. It'll work but you'd be much better off using leaf mold in its place.

Also is this for beds or containers? It seems a bit soggy for containers, I'd increase drainage. Wood mulch (fines not bark or nuggets) or more perlite. For beds tho you have a decent mix.
I'm using Top Soil out of my garden. I have Composted Wood Chips.

That is one thing it does hold water I'm figuring cooler temperatures and high humidity. I was just out in the Greenhouse and it was 55F 75% Humidity.

If I'm remixing old soil and it looks like it needs more Perlite I will add some.

I'm using the soil in mostly Containers but use it in my Raised Beds.
 
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GreenGenez421

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That is one thing it does hold water I'm figuring cooler temperatures and high humidity. I was just out in the Greenhouse and it was 55F 75% Humidity.
If you grab up a handful, squeeze it, you should see water run out only at the strongest squeeze pressure. Any thing less is too retentive for pots, but this does greatly depend on the method of nutrient management. If it's organic it should be OK, if it's salts your in for a world of burn and nitrogen toxicity
 

Baron von Bud

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I'm getting low on Compost so I'll be in the city.

Thinking of getting some Happy Frog. I was wondering about putting some Perlite in it about how much.

Could get some Ocean Forest and mix the two.

Open for idea's?
I use a mix of 2/3 Happy Frog and 1/3 Coco Coir plus a bit of added perlite. Thus one bag of HF fills three five gallon fabric pots for my 3x3 tent. The coir is good for water retention. I use the Fox Farms trio nutrients. The results over the years have always been good with no issues. HF is expensive and raises my cost per plant but that's no big deal. I'm not into flushing but FF recommends it so I only flush after three weeks of flower . That's the end of the stretch period for my Nirvana Master Kush. People grow in all sorts of mediums and if it works that's great. I've seen some great grow photos here and am always willing to adapt.
 
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Oldguyrealy

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My last grow was good using my mix. I was told my main problem was putting too much light to them. I have 750W lights thinking of turning them down next time.
 
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