Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

LionsRoor said:

Hey NewHidden - I had that same issue too with my last batch... I put em all to flower and now it's harvest time - but a couple small ones never did squat! I have a 5' plant with an ounce+ of bud on her, right next to a 12" runt that has like a bong hit sized bud on it!

In the end - I could have simply left this plant out of the system and given the others more room in the root zone and above. I don't think they hurt anything by leaving them.

Often times, these runts never catch up - so your efforts on them may be a waste. I would suggest moving on with the ones that are ready... as veging too long has consequences as well. You would then have to top/trim the big ones while waiting for the small guys (which may never catch up!).

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So the little one just leave them in the veg? The little ones on the top tips kind of have black spots on them too.

StinkBud said:

I've been running 450ml of Sweet and straight water for the last week of growth. PH 5.8.

Last time added an extra 250ML of Sweet 4 days into the flush. I can't believe how good the buds taste!

I'm trying a mix of Citrus and Berry this time. I've never tried the Citrus flavor of Sweet before.

Wait until the pistils start to turn before you flush. Be patient. I know it's hard but it will be worth the wait...

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I have to move the plants out in a week so I am running 250 ml of Sweet but the PPM's are only about 1200.

One of my Grape Apes is starting to brown a little but most of my Purple Kush is still white.

Still I guess I'll learn about flushing, before I have to cut them down and that will be good.

Thanks to all you guys.

it takes time to figure out when to start flushing
i have had plants close to being done and then start to regrow new pistils......i said screw it and chopped them at normal time.....and my friend didnt say a word...loved them

what are most people using co2 averaging per watt?.......i hit .75 per gram before i added co2 and before i started using the stink bud recipe
now im hoping for 1 gram per watt..............seems very realistic

LionsRoor said:

Yes - that would work but it sounds like more work than it's worth! Just leave em under the light they have now (some sort of CFL, etc?), the CFL lighting will keep the stretch down while they veg another week. A weeks growth in the Stink system can mean 12 inches in the fast growing veg state. Consider topping, trimming accordingly to keep the final height in check as you finally move them to flower.

Here's a thought:

A weeks worth of additional veg growth can provide another round of cuts. Even if they don't fit into your Stink schedule, you can root 'em for friends. If you intend to root in the Stink system and then move them to another medium to grow out, I have found cutting out the sides and bottom of the net cup - leaving just a collar to hold the neoprene insert - allows for easy transplanting. I like to move em to Solo cups with coco. My friends can easily pot em, etc... I figure if medicine is growing everywhere, it can only help the cause!

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Thanks that what i'm going to do. I have a Sunblaze 2' ft 4 bulb unit, I have 2 of each 3000k and 6500k in there. Not sure if using all 6500k bulbs would be better? I have been running the stink clone system with 135mL (per 5 gallons of water) Clonex each time and I get roots with all plants in just about 6 days, I rooted a stem with the smallest leaves and its starting to grow now and has healthly roots. I know Stink said to put them in the veg unit when they show roots but when is there enough roots or what is consider rdy for the next step?

Now for the crazy growth I can say that I have had it (3 1/2 to 6 inches a week 1600 ppm in veg) with out co2 enrichment. I thinks co2 enrichment is like stepping into the big leagues. I will soon step to the plate after this first batch.

just duck tape it!!!!

I'm back on page 35 but I'm heading this way.

I couldn't find the 18 Gallon rubbermaid's at Home Depot or Lowes, but they are on sale through Saturday at Target for $8.

Stinkbud thanks for taking the time to do all this. Great information.

Back to the time machine.....

Hey guys, Im a "professional" by day, grower at night. Just wondering where all the Central Valley growers are at, has to be a shitload... All of my friends are square and only one knows I grow so it would be great to meet a few of you that are local. Where ya at????? PS... Im in Modesto Ca. 209 BABY!!!

lionsroor i also do the same thing with my collars and nets. I have found out that is easier on the transplanting into the other system. roots can be stronger but not if you are pulling them from the nets. Not if you are using the stink system tho. from what i remember he uses 2 in nets and pots in both systems.....

Maybetomorrow said:

Thanks that what i'm going to do. I have a Sunblaze 2' ft 4 bulb unit, I have 2 of each 3000k and 6500k in there. Not sure if using all 6500k bulbs would be better? I have been running the stink clone system with 135mL (per 5 gallons of water) Clonex each time and I get roots with all plants in just about 6 days, I rooted a stem with the smallest leaves and its starting to grow now and has healthly roots. I know Stink said to put them in the veg unit when they show roots but when is there enough roots or what is consider rdy for the next step?

Now for the crazy growth I can say that I have had it (3 1/2 to 6 inches a week 1600 ppm in veg) with out co2 enrichment. I thinks co2 enrichment is like stepping into the big leagues. I will soon step to the plate after this first batch.

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You want a fairly healthy root system... even though they may root in 6 days - you want to wait until they have established solid roots... sounds like you have a quick rooting strain - so you likely have a healthy root structure ready in 2 weeks. I monitored my first batches closely... now I look at the cuts daily but only check for roots after 2 weeks... at that time I have primordia on all and established roots on several. At 3 weeks, the whole batch is ready for veg. Many roots are down to the bottom of the tub but not quite tangled yet..

I have yet to pull a batch from veg to flower that doesn't need some root cutting.

Your personal sweet spot for your strain will vary - though waiting for an open slot in the flower room will eventually dictate your schedule for clone and veg phases.

Your mixed spectrum tubes are fine - but I think minimizing stretch is most important during veg phase - so going with all 6500K tubes may be more optimum... but don't sweat it!

NewHiddenGrower said:

So the little one just leave them in the veg? The little ones on the top tips kind of have black spots on them too.

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If ya have room in your veg unit - leave em... I know it's hard, but the most logical thing to do may be to ditch em and move on with a complete new batch... not sure how you are rolling as far as cuts are concerned.

Black spots can be hard to diagnose - often a nutrient deficiency, but it can be a mold of some type... Your case sounds like a combo of nute burn and salt build up if it is on new growth tips? - but I am certainly not certain.

dagobaker said:

what are most people using co2 averaging per watt?.......i hit .75 per gram before i added co2 and before i started using the stink bud recipe
now im hoping for 1 gram per watt..............seems very realistic

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You are doing well with your wattage!

In a friend's 10 x 600 watt coco grow of OG with C02 - he gets about 9# - so that is .681. I think he could actually get double that growing SnowCap or some other big yielder. ...and that's just calculating lights - spending watts on AC, fans, chillers, pumps, etc too. I assume your calc is just light wattage, right? I wonder how many watts a 3 ton split unit uses? Interesting stuff to figure EXACTLY what it costs, huh?

Again - you are doing great - high above average yields!

LionsRoor said:

If ya have room in your veg unit - leave em... I know it's hard, but the most logical thing to do may be to ditch em and move on with a complete new batch... not sure how you are rolling as far as cuts are concerned.

Black spots can be hard to diagnose - often a nutrient deficiency, but it can be a mold of some type... Your case sounds like a combo of nute burn and salt build up if it is on new growth tips? - but I am certainly not certain.

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Thanks for all your replies, yes the black tip is on the new growth part. I went ahead and left them into veg.

Also i just started to flower 28 ladies. I dont have Venting set up yet and my room temp is at 80-82 is this ok for now?

Also how often do i have to refill the res?

NewHiddenGrower said:

Thanks for all your replies, yes the black tip is on the new growth part. I went ahead and left them into veg.

Also i just started to flower 28 ladies. I dont have Venting set up yet and my room temp is at 80-82 is this ok for now?

Also how often do i have to refill the res?

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Venting is essential.

NewHiddenGrower said:

... my room temp is at 80-82 is this ok for now?

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It will possibly stretch your babies. Mine have shown stretching when the temps get into the mid 80'sF.

NewHiddenGrower said:

Also how often do i have to refill the res?

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Refill when you have to to keep it full. Refill with RO or filtered water and keep an eye on the pH. Change rez every 2 to 3 weeks. I am in the 4th week of flowering and I have a 70 gallon rez that I refill every 2 to 3 days now. It feeds 2 4x4 trays.

Hope this helps.

NewHiddenGrower said:

Thanks for all your replies, yes the black tip is on the new growth part. I went ahead and left them into veg.

Also i just started to flower 28 ladies. I dont have Venting set up yet and my room temp is at 80-82 is this ok for now?

Also how often do i have to refill the res?

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Without enhancing your room with CO2, 80 - 82 may be a little warm... you may notice the leaf fringe curling up as it trys to remove heat. Be sure you are taking your temps from canopy level.

Without enhancing your room with CO2, venting is necessary to bring in fresh CO2 and keep heat and humidity in check.

Res changes will vary depending upon the size of the res, the stage of plant growth, and environmental conditions. Monitor your res daily - checking PH and PPM's - and keeping at desired levels with water and/or mild nute solution. A complete res change should be performed every 2 - 3 weeks. I like to flush for 2 or 3 hours with Clearex or plain water prior to refilling the res.

Ok awesome , im going to install a wall AC unit, and duct the lights today. And get co2 sometimes this week thanks.

if i was using a co2 tank i wouldnt need as much dehumdiifing or air conditioning help but the co2 generator operates way cheaper
i would be using almost a co2 tank a week at almost 20$ and have to either buy extra tanks or make the drive every week.....no way
the propane is once every 6.5 weeks (45 days) and its 14$ and its right up the street.....an extra tank only costs 30$ too........
i was more interested in the yield just with the lights.....but u make a good point
i feel like hitting a gram per watt not messing with sog style plants is a very good yield...and it seems like stink has hitting even higher than that before he added a third light........no idea what hes hitting now

although im still way new to co2 ive noticed a huge difference in growth.....its going to take another month to really calculate the real difference
the one aero unit thats had co2 since the beginning has huge colas and its still at least 3 weeks away.......seems like a no brainer...... 30% to 40% more yield with little extra work........

dagobaker said:

although im still way new to co2 ive noticed a huge difference in growth.....its going to take another month to really calculate the real difference
the one aero unit thats had co2 since the beginning has huge colas and its still at least 3 weeks away.......seems like a no brainer...... 30% to 40% more yield with little extra work........

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So you use propane?