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Voidling

Voidling

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I know for deep water culture at least that seeds are started in net cups full of coco coir. Starts with flood and drain for a week or so then dropped into a trough of water.

Maybe start seeds normally and then use the hydro for cuttings only?
 
Voidling

Voidling

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Yeah though early on it's just keeping it from drying out.

It also seems that starting in loose coco would make it real easy to wash the roots off in comparison to the rooters.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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batrgrower said:
I noticed ss and a couple other people using those strong boxes, but leaving the lids yellow and not painting them ad stink suggested. Anyone have any feedback on that?
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Tuffboxes and I don't recommend it. My roots suffered because the lid let thru way too much light.

I chose to cover my lids with panda film or foil covered foam insulation board to keep the heat out.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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420circuit said:
Hey Stink, just passing thru and thought that I should stop to say thanks again for the grow tips and excellent details that helped me to build that growing machine a few years back. You may recall that I had a brain tumor resected in 2010 and decided to go for it with cannabis oil, using your 2008 post as a starting point. I got better and the tumor has not grown back, perhaps because of the cannabis oil. So, your post may have helped to save me. Thank you.

My garden changes every grow, sometimes soil, sometimes organic, depending what I'm growing for. The aromas with organic soil can sure be nice, I save that extra effort for special buds, destined for smoking, mostly sativa dominant strains. The cloner has been great to have around to save the genetics of the best plants, and also as a tool in seed breeding. I gave up on smart pots for soil because of the stuff that grows on the outside of them, hard side 4 gallon works for my small 600W garden. What has worked best for me is having veg plants in netpots to supply the cloner with cuts, then flower with either soil or the rails, depending on strains. The all-CBD plants are good in the rails and use Jack's nutrients, so cost is very low. The GDP and Blue Dream come out best in soil, so get a variety of nutes, mostly organic style. What I've learned is that examining each plant closely, daily, addressing it's support and trimming needs, keeps everything on track and problem free. Keeping the grow super clean, always a fan moving the leaves, good charcoal filters, temp around 80... I have derived more enjoyment from indoor gardening than I can express, it has been therapy, poetry and entertainment, just a great way to spend time. Not to mention the primo buds and cannabis oil.

I tried socializing with local cannabis enthusiasts here in CO, but have given up because of low lifes who inhabit that community. The underground market will hopefully diminish here as legalization drives profits down, and the gangsta wannabes move back home. They get busted all the time and have caused more rules to be applied to the growing here, causing problems for the people who are trying to help with legalization by setting an example. I am reluctant to go public because of the problem with bad actors, they have brought law enforcement into the process because of their mad rush to make a buck. Some of the people in this community are the best of the best, just wonderful human beings, but then there are the bad actors, who fail to understand why we should push for full legalization, probably because of their cash motivated lives, typically devoid of love or civility. It is refreshing to find someone with your mindset in this arena, seriously, your attitude sets a standard that is admirable. Growing cannabis is fun and rewarding, but people who spray pesticides on buds and then sell them are doing it wrong. Same folks who try to sell crappy BHO as a cancer cure. Point is, people who are doing it right should be recognized for their work so the rest of us can learn and move ahead.

Tell you what, if you can swing by over the holidays, I'll pass along a 6 pack of home brewed beer, made with a full 2 ounces of dried buds, added at the start of the 1 hour boil. Only a person who enjoys the dank can fully appreciate the flavor. Thanks again StinkBud!
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I'm in Colorado and I love to meet good people like yourself. No wannabe gangsta shit here, promise!
 
Shroominnm

Shroominnm

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batrgrower said:
Alright guys, I dare say I'm ready to make a post here and ask some questions. I've read through this whole thread, all 11k something posts. It's quite a read. Looks like a lot of shit went down over the years.

I've also read through both of SS's larger threads.

Couple things that I haven't really been able to decide on, looking for opinions.

Between Stink and SS they do a lot of similar things but some things are quite different. It seems that Stink's setup has the plants closer together with more plants per rail, whereas SS uses further distance apart with fewer plants.

Has anyone been able to decide which way would be better in regards to yield?

Next thing are nutrients. Stink uses 2000ppm nutrient setup and SS states that anything over 1000ppm is a waste.

So I'm looking to start on a design of a build and get some seeds started but trying to plan ahead with the build to determine what's the best way to utilize space and maximize yield.

I hope to get to know everyone around here as it seems you all are really good people.

Thanks everyone.
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As everyone will say, it's all about making your grow your own! I have read through all of these forums, especially this one in particular, for years now. And I'm always learning something new or some new way to do something that I would have never thought of!
I'm going to post a pic of my old bins which I still use, along with the strong totes from Lowe's which I had to paint the yellow lids black on to stop from letting the light through.
The blue ones are from Walmart I believe, about 40-50 gallons. With 2 plants I can usually dump 35 gallons in and leave it for a week while I go out of town, IF I HAVE TO.
I started with 4 or 5 plants, autos, and quickly realized 2 was as many as I could fit without sacrificing yeild.
I will say this is not fool proof, on my last grow I was using a less then par power source.. 2 extension cords coming from the house to a camper.. as I say I have learned many things to do, and also many things not to do.
Came back from cali and my water pumps and fans were running great.. but the other breaker had blown inside at some time and my air conditioner had cut off.. needless to say I had completely fried my plants beyond repair. I tried to get them going for another 3 days but they were done for. I was about 3 weeks away from cutting them down too!
After this I bought my water chiller, which I would almost say is a must if you want stability and peace of mind in hydro or aero.
Definately a learning process.
Anyway, I think your moving in the right direction. Your doing research, asking questions, and moving forward, always learning in the process.
I can't think of a better way to go about things.
Keep up the good work and always post lots of pictures, good or bad, so that people can learn from it.

The pics with mylar on the walls are from the camper, the ones with wood walls arrive from the newly designed room at the new Casa:) they have since been painted white and the room split up for veg/flower. No more autos.
Shroominnm
 

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Shroominnm

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ttystikk said:
I'm in Colorado and I love to meet good people like yourself. No wannabe gangsta shit here, promise!
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I'll be up there next week! Guess this drought in cali has messed with prices this year.. lol agreed though, no gangsta stuff. If by any chance you'd be interested in meeting up with a fellow loyal riu member, I sure would be!
You've been commenting on my posts since I first started, when I knew almost absolutely nothing! And have definately helped me learn a ton.
Shroominnm
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Shroominnm said:
I'll be up there next week! Guess this drought in cali has messed with prices this year.. lol agreed though, no gangsta stuff. If by any chance you'd be interested in meeting up with a fellow loyal riu member, I sure would be!
You've been commenting on my posts since I first started, when I knew almost absolutely nothing! And have definately helped me learn a ton.
Shroominnm
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Love to have you visit. I'm meeting with another RIU member today, in fact.
 
disbeverk

disbeverk

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Paint the lids with two coats of black to block the light, then a coat of white to reflect the heat/light. Black will transfer more heat to the res. Still block direct light with a sheet of reflective rigid foam, if possible. Keeping the res cool and dark is #1 in this system.
 
StinkBud

StinkBud

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420circuit said:
Hey Stink, just passing thru and thought that I should stop to say thanks again for the grow tips and excellent details that helped me to build that growing machine a few years back. You may recall that I had a brain tumor resected in 2010 and decided to go for it with cannabis oil, using your 2008 post as a starting point. I got better and the tumor has not grown back, perhaps because of the cannabis oil. So, your post may have helped to save me. Thank you.

My garden changes every grow, sometimes soil, sometimes organic, depending what I'm growing for. The aromas with organic soil can sure be nice, I save that extra effort for special buds, destined for smoking, mostly sativa dominant strains. The cloner has been great to have around to save the genetics of the best plants, and also as a tool in seed breeding. I gave up on smart pots for soil because of the stuff that grows on the outside of them, hard side 4 gallon works for my small 600W garden. What has worked best for me is having veg plants in netpots to supply the cloner with cuts, then flower with either soil or the rails, depending on strains. The all-CBD plants are good in the rails and use Jack's nutrients, so cost is very low. The GDP and Blue Dream come out best in soil, so get a variety of nutes, mostly organic style. What I've learned is that examining each plant closely, daily, addressing it's support and trimming needs, keeps everything on track and problem free. Keeping the grow super clean, always a fan moving the leaves, good charcoal filters, temp around 80... I have derived more enjoyment from indoor gardening than I can express, it has been therapy, poetry and entertainment, just a great way to spend time. Not to mention the primo buds and cannabis oil.

I tried socializing with local cannabis enthusiasts here in CO, but have given up because of low lifes who inhabit that community. The underground market will hopefully diminish here as legalization drives profits down, and the gangsta wannabes move back home. They get busted all the time and have caused more rules to be applied to the growing here, causing problems for the people who are trying to help with legalization by setting an example. I am reluctant to go public because of the problem with bad actors, they have brought law enforcement into the process because of their mad rush to make a buck. Some of the people in this community are the best of the best, just wonderful human beings, but then there are the bad actors, who fail to understand why we should push for full legalization, probably because of their cash motivated lives, typically devoid of love or civility. It is refreshing to find someone with your mindset in this arena, seriously, your attitude sets a standard that is admirable. Growing cannabis is fun and rewarding, but people who spray pesticides on buds and then sell them are doing it wrong. Same folks who try to sell crappy BHO as a cancer cure. Point is, people who are doing it right should be recognized for their work so the rest of us can learn and move ahead.

Tell you what, if you can swing by over the holidays, I'll pass along a 6 pack of home brewed beer, made with a full 2 ounces of dried buds, added at the start of the 1 hour boil. Only a person who enjoys the dank can fully appreciate the flavor. Thanks again StinkBud!
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Thank you for the thoughtful and inspiring post. People like you are the reason I started this thread to begin with. It's all about helping our fellow man.

I'm so glad to hear things are going well for you. Although I started this thread using some of my first Aeroponic designs I never intended it to be around as long as it has. I figured no one would read the post and it would die quickly. Here we are 8 years later and I'm still talking about growing. I have personally tried most growing techniques available. I've never been a big fan-boy of anything. As soon as something get's popular my rebel side comes out and I have to try something different.

Over the years the growing side of things has become less exciting. I mean there's only so many ways to grow bud and the truth is, organic soil still sets the standard for flavor and smell. For me it's all about genetics. Of course everyone talks a lot of shit but I have to say I'm really excited about some of these new strains I have. The Blackberry Cookies is some kind of freak of nature. The leaves are the biggest I've ever seen. The plant is phat, just like me!

Trainwreck Cookies! Just saying it makes me piss myself! Damn! I don't have my hopes up but it could end up being really special. The Headband Cookies look like a pure Indica. I have 2 phenos going and they both look the same. The leaves are so wide they overlap each other. A few of the strains have super long stems! I'm talking 6-10" long! It's like nothing I've ever seen before.

Orange Cookies, Pineapple Cookies, Grape Cookies, Blackberry Cookies! Holy shit, I'm fruity for fruity fucking cookies!

And the Holy Grail....Pre 98 Bubba Cookies! That's right, two of my favorite strains together in one Indica dominate bundle of green joy. Yes I have cuttings of everything and yes you can have some... If you are a card holding medical patient in Oregon.
 
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StinkBud

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nxsov180db said:
Hey stinkbuddies I am having some problems with seedlings and aeroponics, I think I posted on here a while ago and didn't get a response so I'll ask again since I am still having the same problem with a new batch of seeds... So I germ the seeds throw them in rapid rooters and they pop up out of the rooter a couple days later and look great, I split the rooter open and remove the seedling and put it in the aeroponic system and the roots take a while to start growing again. Last time I know I waited to long because the roots were coming out of the sides of the rooter, this time I didn't wait as long but a couple seedlings were just starting to have roots come out of the sides of the rooter, should I be pulling these even sooner? Should I just pull them as soon as they sprout out of the rooter? I only waited a day or two after they sprouted until I saw the tap root coming out of the bottom but by them it seems roots were already growing sideways off of the main tap root as well. Of course when you remove the seedlings the tiny sideways roots get broken off so are they taking so long to start developing roots because they are in shock? Kind of like a transplant shock?
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You want to take them out of the plug as soon as possible. If you can get it with just the one long tap root that's the best. If you wait until it has side roots then it gets pretty torn up trying to remove the plug material. The tap root only has to be long enough to get through the neoprene collar. As soon as it can pick up water you are safe.

You can check the root progress by cracking open the plug. Be real careful! If the root is not long enough just close it back up and wait another day or two. You may want to run the sprayers 24/7 until you get a nice set of roots.
 
StinkBud

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disbeverk said:
Paint the lids with two coats of black to block the light, then a coat of white to reflect the heat/light. Black will transfer more heat to the res. Still block direct light with a sheet of reflective rigid foam, if possible. Keeping the res cool and dark is #1 in this system.
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I have to keep chiming in on this one bro. The best thing for your res is a cooler. It's water tight, light tight, white lid and insulated. It costs a little more but you don't need paint and it never leaks. They work great for cloners too! No more water leaks from the sprayers! Trust me on this bro...

It is hard finding a cooler without cup holders and all sorts of other crap molded into the lid. It's not a big deal for the reservoir but it sucks for the cloners. The cheap ones are usually the best because they have the simple flat lids.

The bad news... coolers are expensive! I big cooler can set you back a small ransom. You may already have a couple of old stinky ones in your basement right now. If you don't, I know your uncle does. Everyone has an uncle with stinky coolers in their basement...
 
westbmorekush

westbmorekush

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StinkBud said:
I don't do commercial, only medical. I'm not really interested in setting up a large grow at this time. It costs tens of thousands of dollars that I don't have. The licence fees alone cost close to $5K. You have to have cameras, security alarms, safes and many more expenses that no one ever thinks about. Where I live you can only set up a commercial grow on properties zoned commercial, agriculture or industrial. No home addresses allowed. You can't even have property zoned partial agricultural.

Let me tell you though...if I could find an investor, someone could make a lot of money! All the major growers can't keep up with the demand. Wholesale prices keep going up but they still buy all they can grow. I'm staying medical for now. There are still a few medical dispensaries around that's where I'd rather be anyway.

On another note... I popped all my seeds and now I have Orange Cookies, Pineapple Cookies, Headband Cookies, Trainwreck Cookies, Grape Cookies, Bubba Cookies, Mystery Cookies and Dreamy Cookies. The plan is to back cross with my Girl Scout Cookies and then take those seed and backcross them one more time. This will give me the stable, F3 back cross squared that I'm looking for. The seeds from that batch should be as stable as an F1 cross
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Is there any way I can get some of your strains, tired of the same thing on the east coast.

If I don't fly imma die anyway
 
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