Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

WVPothead77

Active Member
Thank you Master Stink ;-)
i cant wait to share this with everyone :peace:

i am about to order my Environmental Controller
I've decided to go with the IntelliClimate from Autogrow Systems
i like the idea of one controller able to adjust by factoring all conditions and cycles from one "brain"

same company also make a product called IntelliDose Controller, which i'm considering integrating later on into the system
The IntelliDose will maintain pH and nutrient levels at all times and run pumps to the system. the controller monitors the reservoir, adding nuts as needed to maintain perfect settings.

any comments recommendation for the controllers?
other than the obvious (i know their expensive, i can afford them ;-)
anyone...

congrats on the HT article :bigjoint:
HOLY SHIT! That's $3,000 for just those two controllers. If you're shelling out that much for nutrient/environmental controllers, how much are you investing for your whole grow op?
 

jasynergy

Active Member
I finished my mod of StinkBuds large scale design. Its more like the half pounder flower room. I had smaller space and I'm building a plywood crate interior dimensions of 3' 8" x 7' 4". I will be lining the walls with Mylar and the front side (7') will be two big doors. So it wont be too deep and I don't plan on going in just wall to wall SOG. My biggest concern is plant spacing since I'll need to be able to harvest one set of tubes at a time. Each set of tubes will be spaced 16" so the seprate sets of tubes plants are not so grown into eachother.

Each plants would have its own space bubble of 10" from stalk to wall. 6" between plants of same cycle. And 8" between plants of diffrent cycle. Any thoughts on the spacing would be appricated.
 

StinkBud

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I can't remember who suggested using large black garbage bags as a liner for the res but I went ahead and tried it yesterday.

It works great! No more having to scrub 5 containers every three weeks! Not to mention it blocks light too.

After you use them they are still good for lawn and garden.
 

Picasso345

Well-Known Member
Thanks for that!

First let me just say thanks to stinky and dirth and everyone else in this 83 page thread (which took me 2 days to finish reading). You guys have helped so many people so much more than you realize.

As my small contribution, I put stink's instructions together in printable PDF format complete with the higher resolution pictures, and the diagrams originally posted.

Harvest a Pound Every 3 weeks
 

tintala

Active Member
for everyone looking for these timers I made one with a repeat cycle timer. you can buy them on Fleabay for about $80.00 all ready done up and ready to go. just look for them under " repeat cycle timer".

However, like andyman, I have not seen too much detail on the timer you use, i have tried one of those hydrofram digital timer, and it doestn do, 24hrs of 1min on 5 off for the cloner, unless i am spacing out and misssing something, Stink , could you elaborate on the timer and what kind you would suggest for the cloner? I know you use them on all your systems, but how do you get 1 min on 5 off?
 

tintala

Active Member
Sounds like the typical hydro shop spew to me.
well i guess i am so gullable then! so hydro shops don't know their stuff? . lol:-? I sill need to know about the timer you use on the cloner..... how to set a timer for 1 min on 5 off for what 24 hrs , week, etc?
 

DIRTHAWKER

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Yo stink, my first batch is only 8 plants, im just about ready to put them in the flower system under one 600watt light.

would you stagger the plants ? or bunch them ?

being i just have the one 600 (for the time being) i am unsure of the best way to get the max yield. know what i mean?
 

SOG

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been doing some reading about lighting, here is some the info i believe everyone will find interesting

Outside Daylight: This is really amazing!!!
Direct outside daylight in the summer time is somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 foot candles.
This is equal to 10,000 lumens per square foot.

and for reference

Foot Candle: This is the basic unit of light intensity or how much light you shine on a given area.
The foot candle is based on how many lumens of light you shine on a given area (measured in square feet).
An example would be:
If you shine one lumen of light on one square foot - you get one foot candle.
If you shine 10 lumens on one square foot - you get 10 foot candles.
Light intensity is what really counts for plant growth.
This is a term that we need to understand.


now for the best part,
I'm considering running the following setup in my DR300 9x9 Veg/Grow Room for Max Full Spectrum lighting support

Code:
Sun system Super Spectrum Reflector with
Hortilux Super HPS - 145,000 with 1000watt v240 Lumatek Ballast
Hortilux Blue      -  80,000 with 1000watt v240 Lumatek Ballast

Sun system Super Spectrum Reflector with
Hortilux Super HPS - 145,000 with 1000watt v240 Lumatek Ballast
Hortilux Blue      -  80,000 with 1000watt v240 Lumatek Ballast
I'm planing an SOG/SCroG combo where clones will go directly to
12/12 photoperiod in the flowering room
but will also get to flower and bud a bit longer



now this is where my twist/technique comes into play,
i will be doing some clipping in the early veg stage clipping the main steam
which ill cause the plant to grow 4 full main steams instead of one


any thoughts or comment anyone?


My 9x9x7 flower room plan-
12 week flowering cycle with a 2 week 3-site FIFO harvest cycle
 

flabbyone

Well-Known Member
been doing some reading about lighting, here is some the info i believe everyone will find interesting

Outside Daylight: This is really amazing!!!
Direct outside daylight in the summer time is somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 foot candles.
This is equal to 10,000 lumens per square foot.

and for reference

Foot Candle: This is the basic unit of light intensity or how much light you shine on a given area.
The foot candle is based on how many lumens of light you shine on a given area (measured in square feet).
An example would be:
If you shine one lumen of light on one square foot - you get one foot candle.
If you shine 10 lumens on one square foot - you get 10 foot candles.
Light intensity is what really counts for plant growth.
This is a term that we need to understand.

now for the best part,
I'm considering running the following setup in my DR300 9x9 Veg/Grow Room for Max Full Spectrum lighting support

Code:
[SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana]Sun system Super Spectrum Reflector with[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana]Hortilux Super HPS - 145,000 with 1000watt v240 Lumatek Ballast[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana]Hortilux Blue      -  80,000 with 1000watt v240 Lumatek Ballast[/FONT][/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana]Sun system Super Spectrum Reflector with[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana]Hortilux Super HPS - 145,000 with 1000watt v240 Lumatek Ballast[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana]Hortilux Blue      -  80,000 with 1000watt v240 Lumatek Ballast[/FONT][/SIZE]
I'm planing an SOG/SCroG combo where clones will go directly to 12/12 photoperiod in the flowering room
but will also get to flower and bud a bit longer



now this is where my twist/technique comes into play,
i will be doing some clipping in the early veg stage clipping the main steam
which ill cause the plant to grow 4 full main steams instead of one

any thoughts or comment anyone?


My 9x9x7 flower room plan-
12 week flowering cycle with a 2 week 3-site FIFO harvest cycle


You might be a little cramped for room, especially if you clip the tops.
I am not sure, but you must be talking about clipping the top at the halfway mark to try to get the 4 -8 top split. That works well, but will even take more room yet. I would have at least a 12" square area for each plant. Splitting the plants you might even want to go with more space yet.
My opinion anyway. I am pretty sure stink uses a 12" spread in his plans.
 

SOG

Well-Known Member
You might be a little cramped for room, especially if you clip the tops.
I am not sure, but you must be talking about clipping the top at the halfway mark to try to get the 4 -8 top split. That works well, but will even take more room yet. I would have at least a 12" square area for each plant. Splitting the plants you might even want to go with more space yet.
My opinion anyway. I am pretty sure stink uses a 12" spread in his plans.
i'm planing a 1sqf space for each site
the split I'm talking about is done in the early germination stage
after the first 3 shelf's of true leaves appear right after the cotyledon leaves,
the third will get pinched off, this will create the 4 main steams
i cant remember exactly if i did another pinch after that or that was it,
was long time ago since i did that, was also for outdoors crop
 

outlawcustombikes

Well-Known Member
I can't remember who suggested using large black garbage bags as a liner for the res but I went ahead and tried it yesterday.

It works great! No more having to scrub 5 containers every three weeks! Not to mention it blocks light too.

After you use them they are still good for lawn and garden.
Stinkbud,

I suggested the idea of the trashbags.....I really should patent the idea as a liner. haha. I tried it to and it seems to work great, makes cleanup simple and virtually eliminates leaks around the lid. Thanks for the kudos!

~Outlaw~
 

StinkBud

Well-Known Member
Yo stink, my first batch is only 8 plants, im just about ready to put them in the flower system under one 600watt light.

would you stagger the plants ? or bunch them ?

being i just have the one 600 (for the time being) i am unsure of the best way to get the max yield. know what i mean?
I'm not sure... If you bunch them they will get more light but when they get big they will block light from each other.

If you spread them out the plants on the ends won't get much light.

When I first started aero I only had one light. The plants under the light grew three times as high as the ones on the ends.

So I guess my vote would be to bunch them under the light.
 

DIRTHAWKER

Well-Known Member
Holy crap stink,,, I gotta a problem.... i just went out this morning to pull the plants out of veg and put them in the flower unit....guess what? the roots grew through the screen mesh that i used and are hanging 5-6 inches below. what should i do? cut them? or pull them or what?

(Remember i had to use the screen mesh beacuse i made the hole to big on the reservoir lid and the roots were sitting in water)
 

offgridgrower

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Holy crap stink,,, I gotta a problem.... i just went out this morning to pull the plants out of veg and put them in the flower unit....guess what? the roots grew through the screen mesh that i used and are hanging 5-6 inches below. what should i do? cut them? or pull them or what?

(Remember i had to use the screen mesh beacuse i made the hole to big on the reservoir lid and the roots were sitting in water)
Dirt i know what he going to say, I do remember Stink talking about having to cut his roots if they get to long, look like your cutting roots bro!!
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
I have a small problem too. I got all the parts and started putting things together only to find out that my elbows were threaded on one end. I went back to Home Depot and got slip fit ones, came back and found that my tees were threaded in the middle hole. Back to Home Depot. Got it all put together - sort of. Now I need a threaded end for my PVC where it connects to the pump. Also, the plans show the hole being in the middle of the tub; the 17.25" piece will not stick out if it's in the middle. So I'm off to buy a new tub too. This is becoming a hell of a project.
 

DIRTHAWKER

Well-Known Member
WORD OF ADVICE, dont let your veg plants get too big.
I let mine go for 4 weeks and they are 2ft tall and a bitch to get out of the veg unit and into the flower unit. I did have to cut alot of the roots (a couple bigtime) i hope they make it.

Also, before i moved them i noticed 3 of the sprayers were clogged with roots,, so plan ahead guys, these babys grow fast and your better off having things ready to go.

Stink, these roots are thick!! and hairy as a freakin monkey on steroids! im wondering how are they gonna make it to 9 weeks without clogging the sprayers?
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
WORD OF ADVICE, dont let your veg plants get too big.
I let mine go for 4 weeks and they are 2ft tall and a bitch to get out of the veg unit and into the flower unit. I did have to cut alot of the roots (a couple bigtime) i hope they make it.

Also, before i moved them i noticed 3 of the sprayers were clogged with roots,, so plan ahead guys, these babys grow fast and your better off having things ready to go.

Stink, these roots are thick!! and hairy as a freakin monkey on steroids! im wondering how are they gonna make it to 9 weeks without clogging the sprayers?
I just double-checked my grow pix from last grow and when my plants were 5 weeks they were a third the size of yours and yours are only 4 weeks. Wow!! I'll have everything ready to go in the next couple of weeks. I still have only one white widow sprouting out of the 10 that I germed so I may have to break into the hindu kush pack. I will have places for 10 flowering plants. Also, I reduced the number of veg slots to 10 too. I guess I could cut another couple of holes to have a couple of mother plants for cloning. Can't wait!
 

holmes

Well-Known Member
ive read that keeping the ph of an aeroponic setup can be troublesome,
stink bud, and fellow aeroponic growers, how do you keep your ph's at bay if you do indeed have issues.
 

DIRTHAWKER

Well-Known Member
Well, here it is, my first batch. first day in the flower unit.

I freakin plugged everything in and noticed the reflector glass was dusty so i went to unscrew it (gently) and the SOB fell down through the plants and did the ol giotine on a few branches...oh well im still alive.

I think they are closer to 3ft..lol
 

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