Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

andyman

andyman

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Picasso345 said:
All hydro places already sell a contactor/relay. It is labeled for HID lights, The guy just didn't know his stuff that's all. That's why he looked at you like you were crazy. You should ask the salesperson why wouldn't the same principals apply to high amp draw from water pumps as it does to high amps from light start-up?

In his defense, I'm sure it isn't common to have people running a flock of water pumps all off one timer like we do, so it just isn't something he runs into a lot I'll bet.

BgHydro sells a few different ones:

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AACILS120ON&eq=&Tp=
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemMatrix.asp?ic=TICMLC8&eq=&Tp=&MatrixType=2&sGroupCode=TICMLC800
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:oman they dont give them away.
 
andyman

andyman

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multisonic said:
I am thinking I could get the art dns and this:
http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?SKU=850-0740&MPN=781XAXM4L-120A&R=850-0740&SEARCH=850-0740&DESC=781XAXM4L-120A?utm_source=Allied&utm_medium=merchandising&utm_campaign=Allied_Top_Sellers&utm_content=850-0740

And have the output go to a power strip which I would then plug my pumps into. Would that work?
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that would work exacly but would be better if higher than just the 20 amp (4 pumps maybe on that one)
 
westmich

westmich

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I've put some thought into this although I am quite stoned bongsmilie

Does the attached diagram cover it well enough? Note: the outlets will not be mounted on the board - there will be a specific place for them on the floor plan.
 

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andyman

andyman

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westmich said:
I've put some thought into this although I am quite stoned bongsmilie

Does the attached diagram cover it well enough? Note: the outlets will not be mounted on the board - there will be a specific place for them on the floor plan.
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looks like ya got the idea:weed:
 
DragonPhoenix

DragonPhoenix

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you up for an electrical question. If you could easily find the page where you posted how to make the contactor timer that would be great but here's my question.

Would something like this work for lights as well? All of my wiring and the breakers I set up are 15a.

My 1000w lights use 9.5a. So even with the timer I don't think it would work because you don't want any more than 10-12a load on the 15a breaker because the wire is only rated for 15a and it's possible for it to catch on fire if you continually run more amperage on the wire than it is rated for, yes?

DP
 
andyman

andyman

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DragonPhoenix said:
you up for an electrical question. If you could easily find the page where you posted how to make the contactor timer that would be great but here's my question.

Would something like this work for lights as well? All of my wiring and the breakers I set up are 15a.

My 1000w lights use 9.5a. So even with the timer I don't think it would work because you don't want any more than 10-12a load on the 15a breaker because the wire is only rated for 15a and it's possible for it to catch on fire if you continually run more amperage on the wire than it is rated for, yes?

DP
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same thing would work fine. you would be able to run as many lights as the amps added up to what ever the contactor was rated for or a little less than its rated for. Ive got some pictured in my pics
 
dragonbud

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I think that StinkBud is generating some business for a very select few companys. I bet Ecoplus, CAP and the Botanicare are seeing some extra orders this season. They should send some royalty money to stinkbud and make his life easier.I think I'll break up the monopoly on this and try some cheaper nutes. I was thinking of trying the General Hydroponics three part flora series, with CalMag as an additive. Maybe throw some Sweet into the mix and make sure I flush, my guess is this would possibly duplicate the nutes that stinkbud is using without the brown residue that organic leaves behind. I am a hydro newbee and I could be screwing myself big time with the nute decision but I got 2.5 gallons of bloom, micro, and grow for less than $150.00. I was also thinking of trying an experiment. Would this work. Grab a veg plant that's 3.5' tall and cut it down at the base. Then cut the bottom of the plant at a 45 degree angle and dip it in rooting hormones. Then take the big plant and put it into a neoprene sleeve, 2" netpot and support the plant from above. Would it sprout roots? Can the top of the plant get the water pressure it needs to survive until it pops roots. Why would anyone want to turn a dirt plant into a hydro?, I got lots of them.
 
StinkBud

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dragonbud said:
I was thinking of trying the General Hydroponics three part flora series, with CalMag as an additive. Maybe throw some Sweet into the mix and make sure I flush, my guess is this would possibly duplicate the nutes that stinkbud is using without the brown residue that organic leaves behind. I am a hydro newbee and I could be screwing myself big time with the nute decision but I got 2.5 gallons of bloom, micro, and grow for less than $150.00.
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The reason I recommend organic nutrients is because your buds will taste better.

Organically grown buds have a sweet taste. After you take a hit the taste lingers on the back of your tongue. You can't beat it.

How much is a pound of bud worth in your area? You have to keep your investment in perspective. Do the math and you will see that the payback is more than worth the investment.

I also made the decision that organic is healthier for my patients. Organic nutes don't contain any heavy metals.
 
dragonbud

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Heck, to be honest with you I've never bought a pound before, If I did it would be spending the mortgage payment on herb. I do understand your point with the money return aspect of it. I still struggle with the whole organic/non-organic thing. When I see organic vegetables at the market, I see profit for the grower. Why can't a flush dispose of non-organic nutes to the point that the choice of nutes is a non-issue? Anyway, the system that has been built isn't natural in the least, It is high tech, and not naturally occuring in nature in anyway shape or form, so tweaking the system is a Darwin type evolution? Which nutes dissolve best in the water solution? Does a inorganic nute dissolve more?
 
potpimp

potpimp

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dragonbud said:
I was also thinking of trying an experiment. Would this work. Grab a veg plant that's 3.5' tall and cut it down at the base. Then cut the bottom of the plant at a 45 degree angle and dip it in rooting hormones. Then take the big plant and put it into a neoprene sleeve, 2" netpot and support the plant from above. Would it sprout roots? Can the top of the plant get the water pressure it needs to survive until it pops roots. Why would anyone want to turn a dirt plant into a hydro?, I got lots of them.
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Why would you want to take an entire plant and basically make a giant clone out of it when it already has roots. The shock would kill both the roots and the upper plant. The S.O.P. is to take clones, not reinvent the wheel.
 
repvip

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potpimp said:
Why would you want to take an entire plant and basically make a giant clone out of it when it already has roots. The shock would kill both the roots and the upper plant. The S.O.P. is to take clones, not reinvent the wheel.
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I have successfully done this with SMALL dirt plants. I'm talking about 6" tall. Simply slice at the base at insert into the neoprene insert and cloner. I have done this many times to transfer seedlings started in dirt over to the hydroponic units.

I doubt this will work with a plant 3.5'! Like potpimp said... it would be easier to just clone off it...
 
andyman

andyman

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Picasso345 said:
I went back and looked so we can have it noted. Believe it or not, but it is already waaay back there. Page 169.
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WOW this thread got big quick. I thought it was only a few back. Go figure with such a good informative thread.:weed:
thanks picasso
 
StinkBud

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dragonbud said:
Heck, to be honest with you I've never bought a pound before, If I did it would be spending the mortgage payment on herb. I do understand your point with the money return aspect of it. I still struggle with the whole organic/non-organic thing. When I see organic vegetables at the market, I see profit for the grower. Why can't a flush dispose of non-organic nutes to the point that the choice of nutes is a non-issue? Anyway, the system that has been built isn't natural in the least, It is high tech, and not naturally occuring in nature in anyway shape or form, so tweaking the system is a Darwin type evolution? Which nutes dissolve best in the water solution? Does a inorganic nute dissolve more?
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The purpose of this thread is not to debate organic vs. synthetic nutes.

One could right an entire book on the subject.

It has nothing to do with the color of your roots or which nute dissolves better. It's 100% related to taste.

Organic buds taste better than synthetic buds.
 
robotninja

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Quick Question, when is a good time to put a fan on your babies? I'v had mine for 3 weeks now and wasn't using a fan cause I was told it makes clones dry out. They are on day 3 of Vegetative growth now and think it's time to make em move a bit. The tallest is 8 inches, rest are smaller.


They still kinda yellow from the cloning process, but they are coming around. Loving this aeroponic stuff!
 
alsoranmike

alsoranmike

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yo dragonbud, open your eyes fool.....

timers, pumps and nutes? lol.

chump change compared to where the real money is.

i'm thinking the companies selling frito's, dorito's and visene are where the killing is to be made....

you must be stoned
 
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