Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

EdsGarden · Jan 25, 2009

andyman said:
Hey everyone I came up with a great easy way to sprout your seeds and let the cloner do all the work. I take a piece of paper towel and put it into the netcup like a coffee filter. Then put the neoprene back on. But I put in a little straw for air to come in. (I used a blue electrical crimp piece cause I didnt have any straws)
This lets oxygen in from the top and a small amout of light so the sprouts grow twards it. I havent found this to be enough light to cause any problems and the paper towel blocks it anyway.

This way you dont forget about them and they overdry or not sprout. It works fine as you can see from the pics. hope this helps

also 1 pic of root porn , this lil one was a seed 1 week ago today

Nice Andy. How soon are you puting nutes in the cloner to help the seedlings along? And at what strength?

I'm trying something similar with a spot of rockwool in each neoprene collar.

andyman · Jan 25, 2009

EdsGarden said:
Nice Andy. How soon are you puting nutes in the cloner to help the seedlings along? And at what strength?

I'm trying something similar with a spot of rockwool in each neoprene collar.

None, no nuits till roots are long enough there out of the bottom of the net pot. Thats just how Ive been spacing it before switchen them to the veg tub. Should I be giving nuits before they get that far. It only takes a few days and they look awsome. :mrgreen:

whysohigh · Jan 25, 2009

totally irrelivent but i didnt know where else to put it, this guy came up with a crazy set up.

http://www.wimp.com/newway/

EdsGarden · Jan 25, 2009

whysohigh said:
totally irrelivent but i didnt know where else to put it, this guy came up with a crazy set up.

http://www.wimp.com/newway/

Hmmm.....I wouldn't be surprised if he got his ideas from stink. Or....maybe....stink? Is that you??

EdsGarden · Jan 25, 2009

andyman said:
None, no nuits till roots are long enough there out of the bottom of the net pot. Thats just how Ive been spacing it before switchen them to the veg tub. Should I be giving nuits before they get that far. It only takes a few days and they look awsome.

That makes a lot of sense. I think their is more danger in over-nuting the seedlings than coming up short.

DoobyDoo · Jan 25, 2009

Hello there! I've been following this thread for a while now, and have finally reached the point where I've got a batch of clones ready to flower.

I have pretty limited space to work with, and in order to get three separate systems I had to miniaturize them. As you can see there are no rubbermaid containers... they wouldn't fit. It would have served me well to take those measurements before buying the rubbermaids! :oops:

It is 35" long and 9" wide (12" at the bucket). That is a standard 5 gallon bucket. I ran out of 3/4" tube for the supports, but you can see where I was going with that. There are four sprayers in the post, and I have the standard 396gph pump in there... probably overkill, but I had one on hand. The sites are 6" apart... things might get a bit cramped, but we'll see.

It is drying right now, I'll get pictures up tomorrow or the next day of it in action, plus everything else. This was the most fun to build by far. I took notes on the cut lengths for the support as well... I need to be able to repeat it easily! So if there is any interest, I can post those too. :weed:

GringoLoco · Jan 25, 2009

DoobyDoo said:
Hello there! I've been following this thread for a while now, and have finally reached the point where I've got a batch of clones ready to flower.

I have pretty limited space to work with, and in order to get three separate systems I had to miniaturize them. As you can see there are no rubbermaid containers... they wouldn't fit. It would have served me well to take those measurements before buying the rubbermaids!

It is 35" long and 9" wide (12" at the bucket). That is a standard 5 gallon bucket. I ran out of 3/4" tube for the supports, but you can see where I was going with that. There are four sprayers in the post, and I have the standard 396gph pump in there... probably overkill, but I had one on hand. The sites are 6" apart... things might get a bit cramped, but we'll see.

It is drying right now, I'll get pictures up tomorrow or the next day of it in action, plus everything else. This was the most fun to build by far. I took notes on the cut lengths for the support as well... I need to be able to repeat it easily! So if there is any interest, I can post those too.

Nice modification, I agree you could probably use a lower gph pump, but I dig the 5 gallon bucket and support frame!

We should start a gallery for all of StinkBud inspired designs we've built, eh?

torrey420 · Jan 25, 2009

Here's a question for you all, I'm wondering if it would be better to have 3 systems under 4 600w or 4 systems under 4 600w? My first and second systems are growing sweet under just 1 600 watt light each, so I was thinking i would just do 4 systems and add another 5 harvests a year, probably target my sativa strains for this. I figure I would just add another veg unit and all would be good. But i have to say, these systems make me look like a pro! If i wasn't so paranoid I would post pics...don't like to leave evidence! :joint:

GringoLoco said:
Nice modification, I agree you could probably use a lower gph pump, but I dig the 5 gallon bucket and support frame!

We should start a gallery for all of StinkBud inspired designs we've built, eh?

StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

DoobyDoo said:
Hello there! I've been following this thread for a while now, and have finally reached the point where I've got a batch of clones ready to flower.

I have pretty limited space to work with, and in order to get three separate systems I had to miniaturize them. As you can see there are no rubbermaid containers... they wouldn't fit. It would have served me well to take those measurements before buying the rubbermaids!

It is 35" long and 9" wide (12" at the bucket). That is a standard 5 gallon bucket. I ran out of 3/4" tube for the supports, but you can see where I was going with that. There are four sprayers in the post, and I have the standard 396gph pump in there... probably overkill, but I had one on hand. The sites are 6" apart... things might get a bit cramped, but we'll see.

It is drying right now, I'll get pictures up tomorrow or the next day of it in action, plus everything else. This was the most fun to build by far. I took notes on the cut lengths for the support as well... I need to be able to repeat it easily! So if there is any interest, I can post those too.

That looks perfect bro! It will work great.

6" is small spacing but you can train your plants to fit.

StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

torrey420 said:
Here's a question for you all, I'm wondering if it would be better to have 3 systems under 4 600w or 4 systems under 4 600w? My first and second systems are growing sweet under just 1 600 watt light each, so I was thinking i would just do 4 systems and add another 5 harvests a year, probably target my sativa strains for this. I figure I would just add another veg unit and all would be good. But i have to say, these systems make me look like a pro! If i wasn't so paranoid I would post pics...don't like to leave evidence!

You could easily handle another system with 4 600s. Check out how Dirthawker has his lights set up.

Are you using CO2? If not, I would recommend adding it at this point.

StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

Bluegenie said:
just a quick point re the ez-clone sprayers - i just couldnt get them to work - tried all kinds and was pullin my hair out till my wee matey who is a plumber suggested just drilling the pvc pipe with the smallest drill bit of 1mm - works 100% and the good thing is for different directs of spray u just drill at an angle - sooooo easy its scarey.
just my 2 pence worth from the emerald isle!!!! lolol

save your money on the sprayers and just drill that bitch up

They actually make a lazer cut hose for hydroponics that you can buy. The thing is those little holes plug very easy.

The EZ-Clone sprayers have large holes and virtually never plug. It's also easy to clean them. A toothbrush and soap is all you need to keep them working for years.

Trust me on the sprayers bro....

StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

GringoLoco said:
I can help with those acronyms,

NFT - Nutrient Film Technique - The way NFT hydroponics systems work is the plants roots are partially airborne and partially submerged in a thin "film" of mobile nutrient solution. The plants are grown above the nutrient reservoir tank. The nutrient solution is controlled by a submersible pump which circulates the water up to the plants and back down to the reservoir. The roots are only submerged in about 1-3mm of nutrient solution that flows slow enough to prevent damage to the tender root system.

UPS - Uninterruptible Power Supply - also known as a battery back-up, provides emergency power and, depending on the topology, line regulation as well to connected equipment by supplying power from a separate source when utility power is not available. It differs from an auxiliary or emergency power system or standby generator, which does not provide instant protection from a momentary power interruption. A UPS, however, can be used to provide uninterrupted power to equipment, typically for 5-15 minutes until an auxiliary power supply can be turned on or utility power is restored.

PPM - Parts Per Million - Parts-per notation is used, especially in science and engineering, to denote relative proportions in measured quantities; particularly in low-value (high-ratio) proportions at the parts-per-million (ppm), parts-per-billion (ppb), and parts-per-trillion (ppt) level. Since parts-per notations are quantity-per-quantity measures, they are known as dimensionless quantities; that is, they are pure numbers with no associated units of measurement. In regular prose, parts-per notations generally take the literal parts per meaning of a comparative ratio. However, in mathematical expressions, parts-per notations function as coefficients with values less than 1.

Hope this helps =)

Fukin aye Gringo! You just got yourself a smiley face :-P

. I couldn't of done it better myself, well said.

StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

SoccerMomZoey said:
(I keep skipping to the end to post) to see if Stink had tried out that idea of running the CO2 through the frame. I was just curious if it had worked.

I thought about it. The problem is the plants get so big that the CO2 would be released at the bottom of the plant. CO2 works better if it is released over the top of the plants.

Right now I have tubing that runs around the top of the closet shelf. CO2 is heavier than air so it falls down over the plants.

I also use a lot of fans to circulate the air.

Check out the photo and you will see what I mean. Look at where the supports end up compared to the size of the plants.

StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

nc1go said:
It has been a week on my clones, no roots. How long should it be. The ppm was 550 and the ph was good. Also my veg 250 mh light is trying to turn on but keeps turning back off. One month old. Any advice?
You guys are the greatest.
Thanks, James

Don't use any nutrients in your cloner, just Clonex. You want to force the plants pop roots to get nutes.

The time it takes to root depends on a number of factors. The type of plant maters most.

Some species root fast, some are very slow. My NYC Diesel takes forever to pop roots. 7-10 days is normal.

Also cuttings taken from the bottom of the plant will root faster than cuttings taken from the top.

Good luck bro!

StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

SOG said:
its just a prototype
what do you guys think, will this do the job?

This will work great bro! Should keep the noise down also. You could even wrap the outside with some sort of foam so it would be totally quit.

It will be a little harder to pull the sprayers for maintenance but if stealth is an important factor then it will be worth it.

My system right now is very noisy. I love the waterfall sound but I don't have to worry about it like many others.

StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

whysohigh said:
totally irrelivent but i didnt know where else to put it, this guy came up with a crazy set up.

http://www.wimp.com/newway/

This wouldn't work for pot. Spraying lettuce with water and nutes is one thing. Pot is a little different.

Spraying buds with water and nutes would be a very bad idea! Shitty tasting buds and mold is the first thing that come to mind.

It kind of looks like a car wash :-P

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StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

Thought you guys might like to see what's up with my rooms.

I modified my 6-hole unit to give me more room. I'm running Blueberry, Purple Silver, Goo and Diesel in it.

I have my cloner and veg system right next to each other in my bathroom closet. The lights are on 24/7.

You can see my new seedlings. Totally unique strains that I bred myself. They usually end up junk but you never know! Keep watching and see how they turn out.

The flower room has 10 different strains going right now. I never have any problems so what do I report? It's just a shit load of bud that never seams to end!

I'm letting the system on the left go until the Elvy, AK47 and Skunk are done. I don't care how long it takes. I'll pull the Blueberry before it gets over ripe but every thing else is staying.

Hope you guys enjoy the photos!

lancetemplar · Jan 26, 2009

Thanks for the great info StinkBud.
A couple of quick questions for you?
Do you leave them in the little net pots when you transfer them, or do you put them in bigger ones?......
if so how do you make the switch without damaging the root systems???

andyman · Jan 26, 2009

StinkBud said:
I thought about it. The problem is the plants get so big that the CO2 would be released at the bottom of the plant. CO2 works better if it is released over the top of the plants.

Right now I have tubing that runs around the top of the closet shelf. CO2 is heavier than air so it falls down over the plants.

I also use a lot of fans to circulate the air.

Check out the photo and you will see what I mean. Look at where the supports end up compared to the size of the plants.

Been wondering about that. :weed:

StinkBud · Jan 26, 2009

lancetemplar said:
Thanks for the great info StinkBud.
A couple of quick questions for you?
Do you leave them in the little net pots when you transfer them, or do you put them in bigger ones?......
if so how do you make the switch without damaging the root systems???

The plants stay in the same net pots throughout the whole grow. You would kill the plants if you tried to move them out of the net pots.

It's very easy to just lift the plants in the net pots and transfer them from cloner to veg and then to flower.

My cloner and veg system is designed to keep the roots from growing together so it makes it easy to transfer your plants.

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