Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Shrike said:

Hey LionsRoor...what is the size (gal.'s & dimensions) of the reservoir you are using for your 3 post flower unit?

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AverageJohnDoe said:

The chiller will be for the flower setup. Sucks I can't use it to chill multiple reservoirs due to different nute requirements. So I am hoping running the pump for a short time (~1 min) will help keep the temps below 80. I have some bubble buckets going and they are black and just a air stone in them, and the temps are close to 80. It is hot where I am and it isn't even summer. I like the cloner being in the 80s (I think the higher temp helps with fast roots), as long as I can keep the funk controlled. But I would like my plants to be in 65-70deg water, and if just sitting water is close to 80 without a pump, I am almost certain an investment in a small chiller would be necessary. Just because the funk isn't growing doesn't mean the water temp is ideal.

No, the h2o2 shouldn't be needed with the DM Zone. I just put a couple caps in a few days after the setup was running with some cuts, just to keep the water fresh. About to change the water. Last summer a few bubble buckets did want to get a little smelly even with just the Zone, I am not really 100% satisfied with the product. It works, but I think there are better. I plan on ordering something else soon. (This is why I plan on buying a $300-400 chiller, the price is small if it will completely get rid of the high temps and the main reason the funk grows in the first place. Why band-aid the problem when you can prevent it from happening?) I tried organic nutes the first time I attempted to grow and the funk really seemed to feed on the the stuff in it and rapidly reproduced. Getting rid of the organics helped a lot, I eventually want to go back to organic though.

I took another peek when the lights came back on, and another has popped roots and others are showing the nubs.

I have successfully cloned more plants these past 6 days than I have in the past 2 years.

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andyman said:

I keep my water around 70f and add strait tap water with no ph addjust since thats just to keep from nuit lock. since there is no nuits in my cloner than theres no lockout. At 70f I get roots on my indicas in 4-10 days and my sativas in 10 days or up to 2 weeks (rare) 100% . THE TIMER IS THE BIGGEST KEY. Makes them look for the water but still teases them with it every 4-5 min.. I cant belive the 100% rate I now get. I even put a fan leaf in and it grew roots.
I also tried a clone in my veg unit with 2000ppm and it took a little while longer but still got roots.

I get no funk with my green rubbermade r n totes. I dont change the water but once a month if that. I bet its been 1.5 months since I changed it. Its full of clones all the time, and some tomato plants too. I just add water every once and a while.

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LionsRoor said:

Hey Shrike - it's the 25 gallon Botanicare res and cover... it is the one they use for their TurboGarden line of hydro units. It is a special order. You can find it online... let me measure it quick...

The res is 35 x 22 inches on the outside - but the actual interior section is 29.5 x 17 inches - it has a big lip. Also nice, it has a cut-out for the pump cord. The downside is, the cover and the res, with the porthole cover will set you back about $100.

To clarify - for those wanting to build a triple banger with this res - the outside edge of you posts must be 29.5 or less. This is pretty good... my fence posts sit 14" on center - with the holes 8" on center down each post.

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Shrike said:

Thanks for the info, buddy. One more question. Are those the standard 4" post's that Stink uses or are they 5". They look like 4", but pictures can be deceiving.

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SoCoMMJ said:

Which timers should I get ?

for $49.90
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-nft1e-1minute-on-4minutes-off-preset-recycle-timer-p-1725.html

or this

For $69.90
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-artdne-adjustable-recycle-timer-wdaynight-function-p-541.html

I need to buy 3 of them so if i can save $20 each, that would be cool. But then again if it dies, the loss is much greater than that savings.

I'm not smart enough to build out the whole relay thing at this point. Maybe I'll be smarter next year.

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Shrike said:

Thanks for the info, buddy. One more question. Are those the standard 4" post's that Stink uses or are they 5". They look like 4", but pictures can be deceiving.

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MyPC8MyBrain said:

Questions for sir StinkBud or whoever is up to par....

I'm getting ready to build 4 flower units because of the way Colorado has the rules. In short I'll need run 4-17 day units instead of 3-21 day units. Given the shorter turn times, I only want to run 10 holes in each unit... one per patient. That will give me 17 days in clone, 17 days in veg box then 4x 17 in the flower units.

So here are my questions:
1] In regard to light spread, would it be better to build the 10 hole flower units in a 3 rail configuration .. 3 holes on each of the outside rails and 4 holes down the middle ? or stay with 5x5 on 2 rails. Seems like the grow pictures I've seen are short on the ends due to less light. the plants could be staggered in a 3x4x3 configuration as well.

2] Given that I have more space per rail, I think it would be better to space plants further apart for more growth. Is there any negative impact on the sprayer to roots if the holes are spaced wider ? Ie spray not getting to the pot . Is this a worthwhile effort to space the plants further apart ?

3] Lights... I was thinking a single light above each unit. 1 600 above each, or maybe even 600's for the first 2 units of the cycle and 1000s for the last 2 ? Would there be significant benefit to running 1000's in the last 34 days ?

4] Can the water and nutes make it 17 days, or will we need to change each one mid cycle ?

Feel free to point out any flaws in my thinking there. I'd rather do it right the first time

That's all for now... I think

Thanks !

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andyman said:

found some sort of pest today on my veg plants. puts little white dots on the leaves. very small. and then I see something small and black on the underside. When I squish it , it smears like any other bug , unless that was its droppings.(sure hope not, eww)
any help. This way I know what preditor bugs to get.
thanks

The last pic you can see the little pricks

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andyman said:

Not sure but I havent changed mine in over a month in my veg and it smells the same as it did when I started. Of course my clones been growin so fast I have to add a few gallons of water every other week and nuits too. So I think mine are using it up quick enough that I dont need to change it. Kinda like a car with an oil leak. If it used a quart a week of oil, its allways gettin a hillbilly oil change. lol
My temps are low so that might be why im not getting funkytown going on here.
I would follow stinks plan or close to it. Im just a lazy slacker

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Saladsmokin said:

Sup stink thanks again for the help. I have all my stuff set up im jus kinda scared about overloading the electricity i dnt have any timers for the vent fan or lights yet wat do u recomend i get? This is my first Real Flowering Room nd i want to make it really nice..My first indoor gro i jus put the 600 lite in the closet wit dwc buckets.. but now i have the new flowering room made with everything but 2 stink flower system i need to make. After my first harvest im goin to add the co2 and A.c.

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StinkBud said:

Unfortunately I have yet to find a cheap timer that goes down to 1 minute on. You have to pay a little under a hundred bucks.

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Saladsmokin said:

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SoCoMMJ said:

Which timers should I get ?

for $49.90
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-nft1e-1minute-on-4minutes-off-preset-recycle-timer-p-1725.html

or this

For $69.90
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-artdne-adjustable-recycle-timer-wdaynight-function-p-541.html

I need to buy 3 of them so if i can save $20 each, that would be cool. But then again if it dies, the loss is much greater than that savings.

I'm not smart enough to build out the whole relay thing at this point. Maybe I'll be smarter next year.

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BIGTIMEROOFERR said:

hey soco
the first one is the one i have works fine i run 3 pumps on it
and that one is 25 bucks cheaper
i got fucked w/no vaseline

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brein said:

i actually have the second one. I didn't quite understand, but are you saying it's not good? i haven't opened mine yet. which one did you get screwed on?


Oh yeah, Stinkbud,
On your diagrams for the cloner. veg unit, and flowering units, you list specific pvc pipe lengths. Is this the length that you cut to? because on the diagrams, it actually looks like its the length of the pipe that is actually exposed. Since the elbows, T's, and end caps all take at least an inch on each side.

just wondering. Or is it not that important?

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andyman said:

found some sort of pest today on my veg plants. puts little white dots on the leaves. very small. and then I see something small and black on the underside. When I squish it , it smears like any other bug , unless that was its droppings.(sure hope not, eww)
any help. This way I know what preditor bugs to get.
thanks

The last pic you can see the little pricks

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