Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

LionsRoor · Jun 3, 2009

andyman said:
when I plan on doing my flower units with the fence post, I am going to have them go in the side of the res rather than on top just to save about 6" or so. If I can find a long enough res I will run it underneith as long as its short enough. Im thinking one of them totes you slide under your bed and are about 5"-6" tall and long and kinda wide. This way I can have more vertical room for larger monsters.

Yo Andyman - and the rest of you searching for the perfect solution for your veg and flower units... Have you guys seen SOG's version of the flower unit? Take a look as he has done a really good job of answering some of your questions with his beautiful design.

https://www.rollitup.org/members/sog-albums-my-diagrams-picture42918-sog-aero-nft-v1-2.html

I know many of you know our StinkBud, SOG - for those of you who don't, check his action. He is quite the engineer and has published volumes of excellent info in his grow journal and room discussion.

LionsRoor · Jun 3, 2009

Aeroweed said:
Very strange day...

I started up my new to me ballast & reflector (Quantum 1000w dimmable w/Hortilux HPS bulb) Had it set on 50%. I just wanted to see what it was like, before putting plants into the flower unit.

The light was amazing, compared to my T-5 on the cloner & vegger

I felt like Aero Edison... LOL

Then I saw a problem

I noticed that my 2 of my PH/PPM/temp meters were flipping out... WTH? PH/PPM/Temp were all suddenly wrong. I shut off the light. The meters returned to normal.

I waited a few hours. Turned on the HPS light on again, the meters wigged again. I left the light on for about 20 minutes to see if the meters would come back to normal. One of them did get close to the normal reading (-.2 PH), that meter was plugged into a surge protected strip. The other meter plugged into a regular power strip, either had blank or just #1 on the PH window. It would switch back and forth... zip or 1.

My Hanna GrowChek meter seemed fine... The two CWP meters were whacked.

My current lights didn't dim. Pumps came on as normal. It was just those 2 meters wigging in the readings. I could take the one on the surge protected strip and calibrate it with the HPS on... OR try putting them on the outlet on the other side of the room...

Any ideas?

On another note. I learned today a fantastic member in one of my car clubs has cancer. He's in the hospital. I don't know how he feels about MMJ. How do I ask if I can help him?

Yo Aero - nothing like having the sun shine in the house!

Looks like you've uncovered a known issue with digital ballasts - they sometimes interfere with other electrical devices! Most often, this can be cured by repositioning your ballasts or changing the route the cords run. In general, place your ballast as far away from your meters as possible. I am not sure if there is some sort of electrical shield you could build, etc?

Not sure how to approach a possible new MMJ patient... I have had many friends diagnosed with cancer as of late. Yeah - sucks! The good news is, many doctors today are aware of the benefits of MMJ, and actually let their patients know about this option. I would be surprised if your friends doctor has not opened that door already. Alas - just go for it! Life is too short to spend it in pain.

Damn - brings a tear to my eye thinking of the people battling cancer - that have no idea how much MMJ could increase the quality of their lives. My grandmother died from cancer - a long, painful, battle. I was 16 - and already a frequent smoker. At the time, I had no idea that I could have helped my grandmother by sharing my stash! It hurts so much now to know that. I give ANYBODY who has cancer medicine. I just give it to 'em. I don't ask questions and I don't care if they get offended (they never do!).

LionsRoor · Jun 3, 2009

kiss-ass

mattykyp said:
Hey!
well going with what you say about the whole up and down curling leaves i'd say i was probably just over reacting a bit!!! because they are doing both and its definitely not heat... plus the fact its only a couple of leaves reacting like this makes me think this also!!! But i will just have to keep an eye on them.

I have attatched some photos of when i just moved them into flowering and some from this morning, i'm using my flower unit as a veg unit at the moment to gain some extra height because this is my first attept so figured the unit was sitting there doing nothin so i may as well iron out the bugs now while i can hahaha.

Pce!!

Yo Matty - I see you successfully made the switch to aero from coco! Your room looks great...

I did notice your post about leaf curl... the leaf fringe will usually curl up from heat stress... when just the tips burn and curl up - that can also be a form of nute burn - just as clawed (leaf tips curled down) leaves signify over fertilization. I didn't comment as I was confident all would be fine! Glad to know that is the case. Keep those pics comin'!

bobbesmokin · Jun 3, 2009

I know that Stink recommends Rapid Rooters if starting from seeds. Lets say my friend Pedro has a few 2 week old plants growing in soil...will it be ok if he just yank (very carefully remove) them from the soil and place them into the cloner or veg unit?

any input would be greatly appreciated.

andyman · Jun 3, 2009

dagobaker said:
Someone with space issues could clone veg and flower in the same system. U would start with 10 gallons of water. Add clonex. After 2 weeks they root. Drain and add 15 gallns with veg nutes. Veg one week. Switch to 12/12. 2 weeks with same nutes. Then 5 weeks (6 most) bloom nutes. Then one week flush
U woiuld need a clone source though

You dont need clonex, I have rooted all kinds of plants and bushes without it just using good ol tap water.

I also just put a 6 hole veg/mod flower tote outside and ran a cord too it at my uncles house. He said its doing fine and the clones seem to be growing allready and nice and healthy. He is pretty old and no one goes to his house so I hope no trespassers ever follow his green extention cord from his house to his garden. :shock:

anyway what I was gettin at is I think buckets could be made with individual pumps and sprayers inside each would work outdoors fine. exept we burried the lower tote/res in the ground a few feet so that it kept cooler. I am not sure if this will work as the summer gets hotter but it was worth a try and I will keep you all posted as I go visit him more often this summer. :peace:

alsoranmike · Jun 3, 2009

bobbesmokin said:
I know that Stink recommends Rapid Rooters if starting from seeds. Lets say my friend Pedro has a few 2 week old plants growing in soil...will it be ok if he just yank (very carefully remove) them from the soil and place them into the cloner or veg unit?

any input would be greatly appreciated.

Tell Pedro it's doable but to be careful. I tried it with four a while back and screwed up two of them.

As for the two I almost killed; I just cut them at the roots and stuck them back in the cloner. Worked like a charm.

bobbesmokin · Jun 3, 2009

alsoranmike said:
Tell Pedro it's doable but to be careful. I tried it with four a while back and screwed up two of them.

As for the two I almost killed; I just cut them at the roots and stuck them back in the cloner. Worked like a charm.

thanks a million alsoranmike, i will make sure i tell him that.

bobbesmokin · Jun 3, 2009

btw...how far along in this project does one have to be, to consider himself an official Stinkbuddy?

andyman · Jun 3, 2009

hey bob I would just cut them dirty roots off to start. then put it in the cloner. roots in no time. The few I tried to wash off wilted real bad and I ended up cuttn them off anyway. like alsoranmike said he had to do a few too. just my 2c

andyman · Jun 3, 2009

LionsRoor said:
Yo Andyman - and the rest of you searching for the perfect solution for your veg and flower units... Have you guys seen SOG's version of the flower unit? Take a look as he has done a really good job of answering some of your questions with his beautiful design.

https://www.rollitup.org/members/sog-albums-my-diagrams-picture42918-sog-aero-nft-v1-2.html

I know many of you know our StinkBud, SOG - for those of you who don't, check his action. He is quite the engineer and has published volumes of excellent info in his grow journal and room discussion.

dude SOG does have a shittload of nice pics and diagrams in his album. His setup is very simular to what Im plannin on. Ive got a dif way of runnin the spray manifold kinda like his but spray heads strait up and down like stinkbuds. Im still not desided rather to go with 8' long post or 6' long post. I was going to go with the 5" diameter ones from menards ($25) rather than the 4" ones (same price, and they had the 4.75" ones too)

thanks for the link

andyman · Jun 3, 2009

bobbesmokin said:
btw...how far along in this project does one have to be, to consider himself an official Stinkbuddy?

Not sure but All stinkbuddys should at least complete the following.

1 read the whole thread, I know its long but way worth it.

2 help with input/questions with other stinkbuddys

3 pass the love on ( the biggest part)

Now This Is just my honest opinion, Im sure stinkbud would be the MAN to ask. :peace:

mattykyp · Jun 3, 2009

LionsRoor said:
kiss-ass

Yo Matty - I see you successfully made the switch to aero from coco! Your room looks great...

I did notice your post about leaf curl... the leaf fringe will usually curl up from heat stress... when just the tips burn and curl up - that can also be a form of nute burn - just as clawed (leaf tips curled down) leaves signify over fertilization. I didn't comment as I was confident all would be fine! Glad to know that is the case. Keep those pics comin'!

Hey bro yeah cheers ay! Well They seem to be doing fine i mean if they are curling up on some tips and down on others with no particular pattern then i guess thats just the way the plant grows hahaha, they are a healthy as green colour so here's hoping that they go ok!!!

Last night i turned them to 12/12 but am leaving them with grow nutes for a week, when i turn to using flowering nutes do i shoot the PPM back up to what i was running the Grow nutes at or do i bring it back down and gradually bring it up again??? Cheers :-)

There's a couple of pics from last night before i changed the light scheduele :-)

Sorry about the quality they are from a phone. . . Gotta get my girl (a photographer) to take some for me and save me the hassle.

StinkBud · Jun 3, 2009

mattykyp said:
Hey!
well going with what you say about the whole up and down curling leaves i'd say i was probably just over reacting a bit!!! because they are doing both and its definitely not heat... plus the fact its only a couple of leaves reacting like this makes me think this also!!! But i will just have to keep an eye on them.

I have attatched some photos of when i just moved them into flowering and some from this morning, i'm using my flower unit as a veg unit at the moment to gain some extra height because this is my first attept so figured the unit was sitting there doing nothin so i may as well iron out the bugs now while i can hahaha.

Pce!!

Your plants look great bro! No need to worry...

StinkBud · Jun 3, 2009

Maybetomorrow said:
I vegged way to long and I payed for it because I had to top 3 plants in the start of flowering. I guess the question is the only flaw to the stink system I can see is the height of the flower unit. Having more vertical room would allow for more bud? if my thinking is right. So could you see a few more ounces to the total pound every three weeks? with maybe 6 more vertical inches?

The light just won't penetrate far enough to grow taller plants. 3-4ft. seems to be the best final height for the plants.

You would be better off going with more/larger systems that are spread out.

buzzzed12 · Jun 3, 2009

Hi SB or anyone that has used a DR300w with these units.

Anyone have an idea how many of SB's flowering units I can fit in DR300w (9'10" X 4'11" X 6'7")? I have not built a flowering unit or set up the tent so I wanted to ask here, in case I need to return the tent.

Thanks everyone and SB especially!!

robotninja · Jun 3, 2009

mattykyp said:
when i turn to using flowering nutes do i shoot the PPM back up to what i was running the Grow nutes at or do i bring it back down and gradually bring it up again??? Cheers

Totally depends on the strain, but for me I was running Veg nutrients at 1800-1900 ppm's, once I changed to bloom formula they didn't like anything over 1,400 ppms...

I would start lower than ur veg ppm's and slowly raise it till u see first signs of burn. Better safe than sorry bro

StinkBud · Jun 3, 2009

bigb1987 said:
I am not worried about how many plants they can support. I am more worried about how large of plants as I want to be able to support large plants with large root systems...

3-4ft. plants are the best height. Any taller and you end up with a lot of popcorn buds on the lower branches.

is reverse osmo mandatory?

Anyone over 200PPM should think about RO. If you are at 250-300PPM stop using CalMag in your formula and you will be fine.

how many lights do you use per system I would like to use 600 or 1000 I am looking to build these as effectively as possible but I want to order everything at once...

is 1 1000 watt per 2 post system suffient or should I go down the path of 2 600 watts per system?

4-600W lights works great for 3 flower systems. I'm using 3-1000W lights in my flower room. I have 1-1000W MH light over the new girls and 2-1000W HPS lights over the old ladies.

4-600's = better coverage
3-1000's = better penetration

thinkhigh · Jun 3, 2009

andyman said:
Not sure but All stinkbuddys should at least complete the following.

1 read the whole thread, I know its long but way worth it.

2 help with input/questions with other stinkbuddys

3 pass the love on ( the biggest part)

Now This Is just my honest opinion, Im sure stinkbud would be the MAN to ask.

I couldnt have said it any better Andyman. +rep

deeweromekoms · Jun 3, 2009

Read something about true aeropics requiring droplet size of 30-80 micron, which apparently seems to be achievable with this product, incorporated into your design.
It looks like an awesome product: 1/4" T, sched. 40 pvc, threaded & ready for screw-in nozzle! Complete system, no drilling and super easy fix! Overall perhaps a little more pricey, but it looks like it may be well worth it, and closer than ever to ideal true aeroponics. Just wonder if the eco pump is strong enough to push it?

Anyone ever heard of these guys, or tried this? Will it really make enough of a difference?
Here is the link/page

http://www.cloudtops.com/mistingnozzles.htm

Thanks.

Aeroweed · Jun 3, 2009

deeweromekoms said:
Anyone ever heard of these guys, or tried this? Will it really make enough of a difference?
Here is the link/page

http://www.cloudtops.com/mistingnozzles.htm

Thanks.

ez clone sprayers work great.. I think I paid something like .50-.60¢ each.

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