Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Anyone read about the light that produces something like 1 million lumens? I read an article mentioning it and ceramic metal halide bulbs, but I forgot the name and didnt bookmark the page or the youtube vid on this crazy light . It is supposed to br the new big thing for growing and I dont think it is available yet. It is in a round ball hood if you want to call it that? Dont know how you would cool it down ,but I'm sure it can be made for air cooled application. The vid on youtube showed a couple of guy's starting it up and getting all excited as it warmed up and got brighter and brighter. I think it was a million lumens and was a 1300watt bulb. Not a MH, HPS,CMH,or flourescent, this was some new technology that will rival all on the market today. Anybody seen this and know the name ? Thanks:peace:
 

StinkBud

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3757429]StinkBud Cherry and StinkBud Kiwi? You know you are only taking someone else's strain and giving it your own name, most folks would consider that stealing, no? (Kiwi = Green Crack)
No need to be bitter bro. The StinkBud Cherry is a mix of my Blueberry and Goo. It smells and tastes like Cherry wine! Great producer too.

The StinkBud Kiwi is another one of my strains that came from Blueberry mixed with Elvy.

Oh wait, guess you are good with that.

You didn't even grow that Banana or GC yourself, you just took pictures of it!
The Green Crack and Banana Kush was SOGs buds. He grew them in his StinkBud system. He even helped me with the photo shoot. One of the nicest guys I've ever met in my life, not shit!

I'm a professional photographer. I take pictures of other peoples stuff for a living. That's what photographers do...

I'll be taking more pictures of StinkBuddies harvests in the near future. I really am proud of SOGs harvest and love showing off his success using my system.

Nothing good comes from dishonesty.
I've always been honest. Some people would like to believe otherwise and spread false rumors. The good thing is it's easy to see through all the smoke and find the truth. Read all my posts and decide for yourself...

Spread the love
StinkBud
 

StinkBud

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Hey Stink, just wanted to let you know I did another grow with the Stinkbud "Binford Tools SB9000" system. It was a seed run of mini-MTF. I now have over 400 viable and over 100 more that "might" pop. As soon as I get moved to Cali and get my medi card, I'm going to make a ginormous Stinkbud "Binford Tools SB50K" that will hold the maximum allowable number of plants. BTW, I was thinking of naming my child after you but on second thought... would a puppy be ok?
Dude! You're too fucking funny!
You got any hamsters?
 

GringoLoco

Well-Known Member
The StinkBud Kiwi is another one of my strains that came from Blueberry mixed with Elvy.
A strain is the result of breeding 2 stabilized IBL strains over many generations selectively picking out the traits desired until a stable plant is established, not from a random banana or some pollen chucked on a bud, right? Yet here you are claiming to have developed new strains; which is it?

I'm a professional photographer. I take pictures of other peoples stuff for a living. That's what photographers do...
Don't professional photographers distinguish between something they created and something they are photographing? Placing your name on it and selling along side pictures of bud you grew gives it that impression, wouldn't you agree?

Also, I mean not that you don't take a pretty picture, but the book 'The Big Book of Buds', usually sells for between $15 and $25 and has dozens of full color buds in a hardbound cover; just sayin.

I've always been honest.
I wish this was so. I have an email from you where you apologize to me over and over again for fucking up and promising that you would not speak ill of me after all I did for you - I also have numerous postings copied from StinkBuddies where you and WTF make unfounded and defamatory accusations about me and my character; not my definition of honesty.
 

StinkBud

Well-Known Member
1. You are a 19 year old snot nosed little shit who knows nothing
2. You had nothing to do with the site because Stink and the Mrs. asked for you to be banned (I know they have now changed their story)
3. I only did what StinkBud didn't, run the site, as you can plainly see, he is very incapable of taking care of it on his own, I mean it's been down for how many days?

You continue to make these FALSE claims that I deleted any emails, but yet have no proof, because I didn't! Just continue flapping your cock sucking jaw in the wind :)
Why do you have to be so mean to WTF? Just because he didn't agree with you? There was no need for you to threaten him. Why would you feel the need to expose his identity? That was just plain wrong bro! That's not what being a StinkBuddy is all about. You just don't get it...

WTF is a really nice guy. I have nothing but respect for him. Just because he's only 21 dosen't mean he's not smart. I used to take care of a lot of import shit when I was that age (in the Navy).

Never confuse intelligence with knowledge...
 

GringoLoco

Well-Known Member
Also, suppose I was a cop.
Time to tear down the garden, fuck!

If nothing else you are digging your own hole.

  • Every section that was added to your web site was ran by you first, it was after all your forum, and you never made any request or showed any intention of removing - if there were legal issue to contend with would it have not made sense to contact site administrator before blindly deleting over half of the site (including off-topic, yeah that's going to get us all busted) and then accusing myself and other moderators of taking over?
  • I deleted all of my posts, then I was summarily banned when I resigned as site administrator. You state here that I am always welcome? How come this is the message I receive when I try to pull up the site?

    An Error Has Occurred!
    Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
    Your ban is not set to expire.
  • Uhm, I have emails from both you and the Mrs. making monetary and salary promises to me ($120K annualy), including a portion of site memberships, which you asked for!!! Don't you recall the thread "Sorry StinkBuddies, this experiment has failed and I will be shutting down this web site?" - Who paid for hosting? Yup, me. Who requested that I turn on paid subscription to make some money on? You. Yes, I have the emails.
  • Right here, you state 'I will always love you and say nothing but good things about you' - yet you and WTF continue to accuse me of things I did not do, like delete emails - conflicting statements are not usually the merits of an honest person

 

GringoLoco

Well-Known Member
What heidiina is talking about is that Gringo made her a moderator without my knowledge.
I have an email from Mrs. Stink asking that I make Heidi a moderator because of all of her hard work on organizing each and every section along with stickying topics that were of importance.

Keep digging...
 

MeJuana

Well-Known Member
To anyone reading all this argument stuff who is new to this concept, you can enjoy it or skip past it. None of any of this argument is a real concern to the point of the system. Spreading the Love is also a choice, I choose to do so. I am not affiliated with stinkbuddies.com management in any way, however I am an active member of the SB forums.

This system rocks I mean it does I am amazed at my results. My veg plants are out of control with just 120 watts, my flower system is going nuts now too with just 1K!! The forums are cool, to download the instructions are free and so many people now are using this system with great results.
 

dirrtyd

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Glad to see this being cleared up finally. I see still alot of unfounded rumors being thrown around. Remember what brought you all together a passion for growing. Well if you want to learn the system from the man himself come to Stinkbuddies.com and have fun. It will only get bigger and better from here trust me I see it coming together.
 

Sub Zero

Well-Known Member
Question for the early stink buddies...

Are you still using this system?

Are you happy with the results?

Do you recommend any changes?

Thanks in advance...:peace:
 

sherriberry

New Member
Question for the early stink buddies...

Are you still using this system?

Are you happy with the results?

Do you recommend any changes?

Thanks in advance...:peace:
I think there is a better way.

I think in the begining, the stinkbud system is overkill, and i think in bloom the system is weak... i will explain.

In the begining, you dont need to stack 2 tubs on top of eachother.

All you need is the big giant 4 ft rubbermaid totes, or roughneck totes.

I am running about 100 plant sites in this tote.

This tote is my ez clone tote, and my vege tote.

THere is water in the bottom of the tote, about 5 inches or so... the roots explode and go crazy when they hit this water as long as there is an air stone or 2 in the tote.

Im also running longer off cycles, and a 1 min on cycle in the tote.

Now, those are minor changes, but make the whole system so much simpler.

so let that sink in for a sec, and ill move on...

now, in the current bloom setup, we take our plants, with these nice long roots, and we put them in these little tight fence posts....

which makes no sense if you stop and think about it.

So here is a better way, and it is just as cost effective...

keep using the big rubbermaid totes for bloom...

only, have a seperate bloom station set up with the totes and these totes are daisy chained together.

below i show a couple setups.

Now ive got to more of a 50psi pump and more fine sprayers, but you could easily still use the stinkbud sprayers.

The cool thing is, you dont have to put a pump in every tote, you can just run one pump, and figure out a way to put a pvc pipe that runs the length of all the tubs, and have pvc or poly lines go through the upper parts of tubs,a nd spray within the tub. Then, all the nute water that rains down, is constantly being moved around, keeping the oxygen levels really high... in the bottom 3 inches of the tub. The rest of the tubs are all still air.

What i do is have a sump pump and a seperate elevated res, but thats only because i like to have a seperate res so that i dont have to lift the lid off of one of the tubs to check nutes. Further, you dont even need a sump pump if you put the extra res down on the ground with the other tubs. HOWVER, if you plan on filling this extra res really high with fluids, THEN YOU NEED TO USE THE SUMP PUMP, because otherwise, if was just daisy chained in like the other tubs, then ALL water levels in all tubs would rise, and thats not the point of this system... you want as much air, and as little dwc water in the bottoms as possible, but you need the dwc water to catch the rain of the sprayers, and keep it all mixing and oxygenated

To use a seperate res which holds high volume of water so that i dont have to check the system every day, i have a sump pump with a level sensor installed in the tubs.

I have the sprayer pump in the main res.

Once it rains enough in the tubs, the sump pump comes on due to the level sensor, and refils up the main res.

If the main res gets too low, its because the plants drank a lot, and it needs to be refilled.




Thats the tubs idea... i showed it in different configurations, but id use 2 rows of these setups side by side, and jsut hang lights down in plants down the length of it


Best part is, if the power goes out... plants dont die. Roots are still in water.

Only thing you need on battery backup to keep plants alive for DAYS is the air pump... i put an air stone in each tub.

I run 2x 1" lines from tub to tub. THese lines are about 2 inches up from the floor.

THe high volume pump, pumps water out via a pvc pipe, or you could use flexible hose. It splits, and goes in both directions to the 2 end tubs.

All water comes back to the middle tub via gravity.

I put a little screen over the hose port holes inside the tubs.

These tubs could be used for clone or veg as well, all you have to do is PLUG the hose ports.

It makes it nice because everything is interchangible, and roots have all the room in the world.

Its also less expensive to setup, and less risky when power goes out.

If you run large plants, you could put only 4 or 6 holes per tub.

If you run lollypopped plants, sog, you could put 20 or more holes per tub.

The nice thing is... all you need is a different lid... the tubs stay the same.

So going from one strain to antoher simply requires an extra lid, and lowes usually has an extra lid in count to the tubs, so if you tll them you bought a tub, and forgot to grab the lid, they will usually let you have the extra.

These big tubs are 20 bucks.

I put waterproof tape over the couple holes where the handles are, on the inside of the tub, and i put about an inch wide, waterproof tape LIP around the whole top of the tub, and it keeps it from leaking out the lid.

If you go to 50psi sprayers tho, and dont point them towards the lid seam, it doesnt leak anyway.

and for anyone who wants to talk bad against the dwc portion of this setup, understand, over in thcfarmer.com, double D's setup is making over 4 lb per plant, and the platns are 6 ft tall... so dwc is fine.

His system uses high volume flow rates to keep lots of air in the water... just as my system does.

THe reason i DONT put the high volume pump at the end of the tubs row is because if BOTH 1 inch lines in a tub did CLOG... you are screwed, and you might even have a flood, and you pump will run dry.

in my sysetm, by keeping the pump in the middle, and having the feed line split both ways, if one tub did clog, understand, the water would eventually only flow the other way when it hit the T because of backpressure being hgiher in the clogged tub, due to raised water levels in the clogged tub, so the water would go the other way, to the non clogged side, and always make its way back to the pump.

Meanwhile... ONLY 1 TUB COULD EVER GO DRY DUE TO A CLOG...

because if the tubs are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

And the pump is in tub 3

If tub 2 or 4 clog, it doesnt matter, all tubs still have water.

If tubs 1 clogs, then 2 would kind of go dry, but not really because water would backflow from tub 3, AND the sprayers still come on every 7 min or so.

So technically... a tub going dry is pretty much impossible.... but thats why i put the high volume pump in the middle tub.

THis makes mixxing nutes a piece of cake too, becuase, you can shut off the sprayer pump for a couple min, and mix everythign right there in your main res, and then once its all spot on, turn your pump back on. Honestly, i dont even shut it off anymore because im so used to mixing correctly the first time anyway.

But like i said, sump pump, and main res are optional. You can simply put the 2 pumps in the middle tub, or have 2 smaller sprayer pumps, and put them in each end tub...

or 5 small sprayer pumps and put them in every tub... but to me thats just a hassle.

1 sprayer pump works fine. If it fails, plants live.

if high volume circulation pump fails... plants live.

if air pump fails after those other 2 fail... plants still live for quite a while as their roots are in water... but the DO will run out eventually.

Like i said, air pump, battery backup... and you are good to go...

all plants roots touch the water by week 3 of existance if you are a good grower...

so that means roots hit the bottom before they ever get to bloom tubs anyway.

**all pumps can be bought on ebay for pretty cheap, if you hunt youll find a 1600gph pump for about 80 bucks shipped, and you could use this same style pump for stinkbud sprayers, or you could get a higher pressure pump on ebay as well, for about 80 bucks. Sump pump, i found a new one on ebay for 30 bucks.

Air pump, prob about 50 bucks. 5 air stones, 20 bucks. 5 buckets for bloom, and 1 or 2 buckets for veg and clone, 140 bucks tops. You really only need one bucket tho, because you can put 100 2 inch netpot holes in a lid, and then transfer the plants when they start to crowd eachother.

1 8x bulb, t5, 4 ft fixture fits perfect over the clone and veg tub. Will grow 100 plants past a foot if you let it. (i know because i cloned early, and had to wait for the bloom area to finish)

Pvc pipe and hoses stuff, maybe 40 bucks tops


**plant roots never have to re-adapt to a new enviroement... they exist in the same style enviroment from start to finish... least amount of stress possible, plants say, "what transplant?"

ps, now we cant just say SB system anymore, bc both of our initials are SB :)

altho, he was here first, so he can have sb... just call mine the sherriberry system


Hope this helps
 

sherriberry

New Member
one more tidbit...

this system can accept true high pressure aero.

While stinkbud calls his system aero, most true aero guys will tell you thats an insult to the art.

True aero needs large chambers to allow for mist to float in the root chamber between sprays.

The fence posts are absolutely too tight.

These tubs i use, are still ALMOST too tight, but hp aero WILL WORK in these tubs.

WHen it comes time that you want to move onto the next level and go to HP aero, or even 50psi medium aero, all you have to do is buy a 50psi pump and 80 micron sprayers, OR buy a 100psi pump, and a accumulator pressure tank, and hp sprayers.

True HP aero only has a 1 sec on time, and about 1 min off times.

This gives roots max ability to absorb both nutes and air.

At that point, you wouldnt even need the spump pump in the tubs... the sump pump would have to be in the res to keep the tubs full of water because the plants would drink it all and the spray is not excessive, so it would not re add tot he tubs fluid levels..., or if you got the spray times down perfect YOU WOULDNT EVEN NEED WATER IN THE BOTTOMS OF THE BLOOM TUBS FOR ALL NUTES WOULD BE ABSORBED BY ROOTS EACH SPRAY, and what thin film of nute water accumulated on the walls and floor of the tub, roots would totally absorb each spray.

im not to that level yet, but if i did get there, i wouldnt have to change setups.

Hope this helps.

Not raining on stinkbuds parade, he is the reason i got started with sprayers and tubs...

but is there a next level? absolutely.
 
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