Harvest/Cure Advice on Day 69 Berry Ryders

Just about wrapping up my first grow. I have 2x Berry Ryder plants that are on day 69. There are some orange hairs, but I still see some white hairs so I think they have at least 2-4 days to go. What do you guys think?

I'm also confused about the "lights off for 48 hours" period. Is that really necessary? If so, why?

My current plan was to just harvest, hang the branches in a closet for 3 days, cut and place in paper bags for 2 days in closet, put in jars filled to 80%, open jars twice a week.

Not wanting to mess up my first grow!!!

Plant #2:



Seems I got 2 phenos, eh?

P.S. Yes, I know I planted them too shallow in those 5 gal pots. Noob mistake.

Also, guess I may as well throw out the "how much can I expect to yield?" in order to keep up with my noobness in this thread.

you still got time on both those pistils will turn and is that the third set/ push of white ones? if so it will be the last once they mature the calyxes will fold up against the buds and the buds will become rock hard pinch them if its spongy its not ready once the buds are hard you can scope trichs if you wish to.

The 48hr dark: the idea is that uv radiation (the grow lights) degrade THC so if you let the last trichs build up in the dark = more THC the thinking goes.

as for yield IDK a Z total I never pulled much from the BRs I grew....but I grew them under floro. What is your light?

technical dan said:

you still got time on both those pistils will turn and is that the third set/ push of white ones? if so it will be the last once they mature the calyxes will fold up against the buds and the buds will become rock hard pinch them if its spongy its not ready once the buds are hard you can scope trichs if you wish to.

The 48hr dark: the idea is that uv radiation (the grow lights) degrade THC so if you let the last trichs build up in the dark = more THC the thinking goes.

as for yield IDK a Z total I never pulled much from the BRs I grew....but I grew them under floro. What is your light?

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They were under 400W HPS for most of their life. Been under 600W HPS for about 2-3 weeks now

Did you enjoy your BR smokeage?

those plants still have about 2wks and even at that you could cut the main cola lower the light and run it for another week or two.. a dark period is only for curing taste/smell 24/48/32hr of dark does nothing to increase THC or potency or yield or any of that shit.. i have grown the same strains chopped one hung it.. chopped the others a day apart and there is no difference in THC/potency.. i have taken the same plant chopped some then chopped more a day apart and there is no difference in THC/potency... most of the stuff i'm only going to smoke myself i just chop it right from under the lights.. and i let some sit in the dark just so when i smoke with ppl it has a better taste.. i've had good luck harvesting BR in stages almost doubled my yield..

I say close but not quite done.

The 48 hrs is an option, many will argue for each side. Just from the pics,

I'd estimate 3-3 1/2 oz total, could be more but i think 4 1/2 dried would be max......better burps those jars more than twice a week, mold is not your friend.

I'd say they still have a week or so, JMO though. As for the 48 hour dark period, It makes that plant think that it is about to die , and since it is un-pollinated, It will produce more crystals in an attempt to catch male pollen so it can fulfill its main role in life, To reproduce or produce seeds.

Budget Buds said:

I'd say they still have a week or so, JMO though. As for the 48 hour dark period, It makes that plant think that it is about to die , and since it is un-pollinated, It will produce more crystals in an attempt to catch male pollen so it can fulfill its main role in life, To reproduce or produce seeds.

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that's crazy talk.. crystals don't catch pollen.. the crystals/THC/resin is there to protect the plant/seeds.. part of that is UV rays.. there is nothing in the DARK the plant has to protect against..the dark helps the plant expel toxins/chemicals/etc through the roots.. making better tasting/smelling weed.. dark period has nothing to do with more potent weed.. more THC.. or more anything.. it is for the curing process... try it.. try it w/the same strain.. try it with the same plant..it doesn't give you heavier buds.. it's about getting the plant to expel it's shit out the roots.. i grow on 24/0 i have plants that have never seen the dark and if i cut a plant from the grow room or i put it in the dark for 72hr it has the same potency

ok , sure sure. What I have said is common knowledge, I'm not hearing any of that nonsense but FYI plants roots are there for the uptake of water and nutrients to sustain the life of the plant, not to "expel" anything, Flushing removes toxins and built up nutrients in the medium and the plants take in clean water from the clean medium essentially flushing the plant, not the dark. just putting a plant in the dark with a nutrient salt laden medium for 2 or 3 days will do nothing to clean the plant. I've never done it but it may very well harm the plant. The crystals are not a single purposed item and your partially correct in the fact that they do help the plant protect against environmental factors including UV radiation, But one of there MAIN functions is to catch pollen to be pollinated, Placing them in the dark does exactly what I said in my previous statement .

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Now I'm done posting here and I'm sure your going to make another pointless post telling me I'm wrong , I've been doing this a hell of a long time and I know what I'm talking about. I'm always open minded when it comes to learning new information and I love talking and learning new things, especially when it comes to botany but I dont listen in nonsense nor do I argue with people who dont make interesting arguments. To the OP, I stand by my statements

edit: they may not make a post but I am to tell you(everyone) you are wrong but Im bout ta. Please look at flaming pie's how plants work thread...... it will tell you how plants actually work
yes plants can shove stuff out their roots. things going out of roots are one of the major vectors of allelopathic interactions (plants chemically attacking each other).
trichomes catch the pollen to make seeds? is that why seedy schwag and mex. shit brick are so sticky and so potent?

Catching and doing shiz with pollen is actually what the pistils (stigma if were gonna be specific and if we are being specific also the style, ovary, and megagametophyte are all involved) do.

Trichs as BG said are for blocking UV light from reaching the stomata, less heat (light) on/near the stomata less water loss during GE, trichs also kill/impede bugs (e.g. defense mechanism) - get them stuck to the plant and/or impaling the bug when it tries to cross them keeping the bug from getting to the plant's phloem.
It could also be argued that the chemical make up of the trichs (THC n friends) are also evolutionary strategies protection (if the thing getting high does not like it) or even as a way reproduce continue the species' genetics (plant gets peeps high so they keep those plants around, win win the plants genetics keep on keepin on and the people have an intoxicant, medicine ect.)

as for the smoke yes I enjoyed it nice taste good smell my plants of it have both been nice and sticky smell good and for me the high was/ is pretty euphoric.

BG I've never heard that reasoning for the dark period ill have to try that with a couple clones when I have the chance and see if I can find the diff.

were not talking about allleopathic interactions between organisms , I can see how my wording could be mis read to think I meant....you know never mind I did say I was done here .

Budget Buds said:

ok , sure sure. What I have said is common knowledge, I'm not hearing any of that nonsense but FYI plants roots are there for the uptake of water and nutrients to sustain the life of the plant, not to "expel" anything, Flushing removes toxins and built up nutrients in the medium and the plants take in clean water from the clean medium essentially flushing the plant, not the dark. just putting a plant in the dark with a nutrient salt laden medium for 2 or 3 days will do nothing to clean the plant. I've never done it but it may very well harm the plant. The crystals are not a single purposed item and your partially correct in the fact that they do help the plant protect against environmental factors including UV radiation, But one of there MAIN functions is to catch pollen to be pollinated, Placing them in the dark does exactly what I said in my previous statement .

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  "As for the 48 hour dark period, It makes that plant think that it is about to die , and since it is un-pollinated, It will produce more crystals in an attempt to catch male pollen so it can fulfill its main role in life, To reproduce or produce seeds."​
  
  

Now I'm done posting here and I'm sure your going to make another pointless post telling me I'm wrong , I've been doing this a hell of a long time and I know what I'm talking about. I'm always open minded when it comes to learning new information and I love talking and learning new things, especially when it comes to botany but I dont listen in nonsense nor do I argue with people who dont make interesting arguments. To the OP, I stand by my statements

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you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.. anyone who thinks roots only uptake can't be taken seriously..trichs/crystals/resin are not there to catch pollen.. that's what the little white hairs are for.. will pollen stick to trichs/resin yes.. but that pollen isn't doing shit.. the hairs are there to catch pollen not crystals.. also a flush is only to remove salt built up by the fertilizer you are using.. i grow 100% organic.. there is no flushing.. no body said you stick your plant in the dark to get rid of salts.. so again.. people here talking about shit the have no idea about... you people give out such total shit information having no idea what you are talking about.. kills me to come on here some times... but what do you expect from ppl who thing roots only uptake and trichs main purpose are for collecting pollen.. i would expect shit advice

there are arguably some techniques to increase THC/resin by damaging the plant/inducing certain stress's/drought/adding UV there are some things worth experimenting w/to try and increase THC levels.. but a dark period isn't one of them.. i'm just telling you a fact.. like the fact that plants expel their shit through the roots.. and i don't care how long you have been doing this because since the beginning of time plants have been expelling their shit through their roots and the little white hairs have are what catch the pollen to produce seeds.. don't hate me for it.. that's the way God made it..

Well technical dan, if you find that one out be sure to let us know man...

thanks for the feedback everyone. it seems skipping the dark period should be fine so I'm gonna go that route. cutting plants --> straight to closet to dry in dark for 3 days.

dark period prior to chop. Plants sit in the dark for 2-3 days and then are chopped and trimmed up.

Grow4fun Ive got plans to grow a couple cuttings against each other I'll add a see about adding a third when its happens so I'll have the appropriate control sample. Once I this is all done (assuming I remember, and then find a diff) ill throw up a thread about it.

technical dan said:

dark period prior to chop. Plants sit in the dark for 2-3 days and then are chopped and trimmed up.

Grow4fun Ive got plans to grow a couple cuttings against each other I'll add a see about adding a third when its happens so I'll have the appropriate control sample. Once I this is all done (assuming I remember, and then find a diff) ill throw up a thread about it.

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Yerp, did some more research. 72 hour dark period (at least) is the way to go before cutting plants and hang drying.

Internet is internet-y.

I've grown autos on 24/0 18/6 and 16/8 on last grow I tested straines under different lighting times and the 24/0 obv produced more bud but ive found a few hrs darkness produces better bud imo I haven't got scientific knowledge but lots of experience and will always give some darkness because the potency seems stronger than 24/0 this is just my opinion