Has anybody ever done a REAL SOG?

I was curious as to if anybody here has done a REAL SEA OF GREEN. If so, do you have any pictures? Recommendations?

I have never gone out of my way to do one, it so much work, but every once in a while when a few of the moms i keep at home get a little unruly I will take the best branch and repot / reclone the mom and then use all the other branches for a sea of green, and I don't even wait for them to root, I just cut them, then stick each one in a thoroughly saturated 1 gallon nursery pot, (they are really only 3/4 of a gallon pots), filled with living soil, then I give them just 7 days of 24/0 light, and they only get 1/2 cup of water on the 4th day of those 7 days,, and then after that they get one 24 hour period of darkness, then into flower they go. And I can run 36 in a 4 x 4, or 64 in a 5 x 5. And the average yield per pot is 12 to 16gm, or better said, a few super nice buds per pot, and lots of nice small buds for making hash and edibles. And for the first 3 weeks they get 1/2 cup of water / feed every 2nd light off cycle, then after that they get 1/2 cup of water / feed every light off cycle!

TreeFiddy350 said:

REAL SEA OF GREEN.

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What is the definition of this?
Answer not in caps would be appreciated.

It's what I put in my post, its taking a clone, but many clones at once, allowing it / them to simply root, and then putting it / them clone/s right into flower! I know many people that like to grow that way because they can harvest 1/2 pound of different bud every two weeks, while only having to manage 16 little pots every two weeks, plus their is hardly no wasteful trimming involved because you don't have a whole plant to deal with!

piratebug said:

It's what I put in my post, its taking a clone, but many clones at once, allowing it / them to simply root, and then putting it / them clone/s right into flower! I know many people that like to grow that way because they can harvest 1/2 pound of different bud every two weeks, while only having to manage 16 little pots every two weeks, plus their hardly no wasteful trimming involved because you don't have a whole plant to deal with!

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No, i's not.
SOG means nothing more then having a lot of plants per square whatever.
For example 16 per 1 M2, or 25 or 36 or 49 or 64 or whatever.
If you have 16 then perhaps you need some growtime, with 64 better not.
So if TreeFiddy does not determine what REAL SOG is, then it is impossible to answer.
If he wants to see pics of SOG-grows.... there are hundreds of growjournals of SOG grows on RIU.

Sog basically is like a Scrog, instead of netting for an even canopy the grower uses a “sea” of plants that are usually all the same cutting at the same height/age to achieve a uniform canopy. I did a sog a long time ago and it was very successful

take a healthy mother and then get a ton of clones off of it. Once clones root transplant , wait 1-4 weeks then flip. I loved how easy the plants were to trim the downside is watering everything

Nizza said:

Once clones root transplant , wait 1-4 weeks then flip.

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If you do 64 plants per M2 better not wait a week before you flip

Keesje said:

If you do 64 plants per M2 better not wait a week before you flip

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My bad. When I said a real sea of green, I meant like... as soon as they root, boom flip to flowrr.
I was thinking about putting 50 in a 4x4 area.
I was thinking about either using 6” plastic pots OR using a 1gal pot.
I planned on using coco with perlite to help with drainage. everybody I’ve talked to has either said they have never tried it with that many/ have said it will suffer due to yielding low as well as possible issues.
I plan on having my humidity and temp in check pretty good. I have 2- 70 pint dehumidifiers. Was gonna use 1 and then if that wasn’t enough, bring out the other one.
The reason I asked if anybody here has done it/ have had great success (gpw? Yield per light?)
I’ve seen a lot of journals, but most I’ve seen have been 12-12 from seed.

I did one under a king cob, 6” pots vegged for like a week to get establish good. They averaged out about 10 grams.

I did it.
I even did (no joke) 200 clones in 10 x 10 cm rockwool blocks side by side in a 200 x 100 Danish Tray.
It was a total disaster, hahaha.
But when I did less, like 49 on a 100 x 100 tray it also sucked.
Too much small popcorn shit. Needed too many clones. The plants were fighting for space.
I was a total noob at that time (and wanted to be 'new young kid with the new method') so that was perhaps the reason I totally fucked it up.

Looking back at it, I would still not do it anymore.
I like SOG, but 16 plants in a 120 x 120 tray is nice enough. Perhaps 25.
No hassle about getting enough clones. Plants have a nice size. And ok... perhaps it takes a few days longer from cutting clones to flip to 12/12.
But if that is the only problem... this can be solved.

Keesje said:

I did it.
I even did (no joke) 200 clones in 10 x 10 cm rockwool blocks side by side in a 200 x 100 Danish Tray.
It was a total disaster, hahaha.
But when I did less, like 49 on a 100 x 100 tray it also sucked.
Too much small popcorn shit. Needed too many clones. The plants were fighting for space.
I was a total noob at that time (and wanted to be 'new young kid with the new method') so that was perhaps the reason I totally fucked it up.

Looking back at it, I would still not do it anymore.
I like SOG, but 16 plants in a 120 x 120 tray is nice enough. Perhaps 25.
No hassle about getting enough clones. Plants have a nice size. And ok... perhaps it takes a few days longer from cutting clones to flip to 12/12.
But if that is the only problem... this can be solved.

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Damn really? That’s definitely not what I wanted to hear. I was hoping to get like maybe 14g per plant. That would be nice.
at the time, do you remember which light You used? Also, did you set up an irrigation?

piratebug said:

It's what I put in my post, its taking a clone, but many clones at once, allowing it / them to simply root, and then putting it / them clone/s right into flower! I know many people that like to grow that way because they can harvest 1/2 pound of different bud every two weeks, while only having to manage 16 little pots every two weeks, plus their is hardly no wasteful trimming involved because you don't have a whole plant to deal with!

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Do you still grow this way?

The Vietnamese?Albanian housegrows do t that way in UK, check the newspaper articles

spliffendz said:

The Vietnamese?Albanian housegrows do t that way in UK, check the newspaper articles

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? Please elaborate I’m interested

Dirk8==D~Diggler said:

? Please elaborate I’m interested

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So those are Albanians growing in England?

Dirk8==D~Diggler said:

So those are Albanians growing in England?

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Some are... Some could be Slovakian I can't tell the difference

This guy did

TreeFiddy350 said:

Damn really? That’s definitely not what I wanted to hear. I was hoping to get like maybe 14g per plant. That would be nice.
at the time, do you remember which light You used? Also, did you set up an irrigation?

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I think if you do 50 plants per square meter, you could achieve 10, 11, 12 and heck maybe even 14 gramms per plant under a 600 W HPS (I had that, because there was not much else these days.)

If I would do it again (which I won't because clones also cost money for example, and it is a lot of work as well) I would do it with E & F.
A simple system which will give each plant the amount of water it needs: Never too little, never too much.
With soil you can drown one plant, and leave the other one too dry. With 9 plants you can check that, control it, and adjust. With 50... impossible.

SoG growing will give you the best yields in the shortest time frame in a small space. If you have a big space there are better options but for a small space SoG is great