Has anyone heard of T-budding?

hydrogrow827

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I was wondering if this would work on marijuana? Learned about this is horticulture class. I'm a noob but I feel like this could be extremely useful. You could use this method to place more buds on a single plant for legal reasons (so you don't have too many plants and get fucked) or multiple strains on one plant. you could even place buds so that they are perfectly positions for light? What do you all think of this? Has anyone tried it? Also could you do this in the veg state so you don't stress the plants during flowering?

[SIZE=+4]T or Shield Budding[/SIZE] T budding or shield budding is a special grafting technique in which the scion piece is reduced to a single bud. As with other techniques of asexual propagation, the resulting plants are clones (genetically identical plants reproduced from one individual entirely by vegetative means). The plant being propagated (represented by the bud) is referred to as the scion, while the plant being grafted onto is referred to as the rootstock, or simply stock. A small branch with several buds suitable for T budding on it is often called a bud stick.
Successful T budding requires that the scion material have fully-formed, mature, dormant buds, and that the rootstock be in a condition of active growth such that the "bark is slipping". This means that the vascular cambium is actively growing, and the bark can be peeled easily from the stock piece with little damage. T budding can be performed on certain fruit trees (peaches, for example) in June using cold stored budsticks and field grown seedling rootstocks. Many deciduous trees are budded in late July or early August after the current seasons buds have developed fully and are dormant using field grown seedlings that have slipping bark.
Bud sticks having plump, healthy buds are suitable scions. These budsticks should be on branches that exhibited good growth during the current season, rather than ones from the interior of trees that have slender stems and closely spaced, small buds. Thick water sprouts that grew very vigorously are often poor scions. Leaf blades are clipped from the budsticks, leaving the petiole intact. This leaves a convenient "handle" for holding the bud while it is cut from the budstick.
The bud and a small sliver of the wood underneath it are cut from the budstick using an upward slicing motion. The cut should begin about 1/2 to 3/4 inch below the bud, and should go deep enough into the wood so that when the cut is finished about 1/2 to 3/4 above the bud, the bark and a small sliver of wood are cut off. A perpendicular cut across the top of the upward cut will separate it from the bud stick. Budding knives should be kept very sharp, so that as little damage as possible is done to the bud. Dull knives strip and tear the wood, leaving cuts that do not heal properly. Buds must be cut from the bud stick just prior to grafting, otherwise they will dry out. Some grafters put the bud in their mouth for the time between when it is removed from the stick and when it is grafted in place, but this practice is not recommended. Speed in grafting is a more suitable solution.
Some grafters make a downward cut as the second cut to remove the bud from the budstick. This works well as long as it does not result in too much of the underlying wood being removed with the bud.
A vertical cut is made on the stem of the root stock. The cut should be deep enough to insure that the bark will separate at the cambium.
The "T is then crossed." That is, a perpendicular cut is made at the upper end of the vertical cut. In areas with heavy rainfall during the grafting season, or in species in which the rootstock is likely to "bleed" heavily, an upside down, or inverted T bud can be used to prevent water or sap from pooling in the graft.
The bark is carefully slipped from the stem of the rootstock exposing a "pocket" into which the bud shield can be placed. Care should be taken not to tear the flaps of bark in the process of spreading them. If the bark does not slip easily, this indicates that the stock is not in active growth and the process should be conducted later when active growth has resumed.
An alternative method for budding which does not require the bark to slip is the technique of chip budding in which the bud is cut out with a "chip" of the underlying wood. This requires that a chip of corresponding size be cut out of the stock piece in order to align the cambia for proper graft healing.

The bud shield is carefully slipped in between the bark flaps. The top of the bark strip on the bud shield is trimmed to fit tightly against the horizontal cut (the cross of the T) so that the bud fits within the "pocket" snuggly.
The bark flaps are held tightly against the bud as they are wrapped with a budding rubber, grafting tape or other suitable closure. This closure must either breakdown by weathering (as budding rubbers do), or must be removed in 2 to 3 weeks after the union has healed. If the material does not break down, it will girdle the rootstock. After the union has healed, the upper part of the rootstock plant can be cut away to force the bud to grow (as would be the case for June budding). If the grafting is done in the late summer, the bud likely will need to overwinter prior to resuming growth. In this case, the upper portion of the rootstock is usually removed during the dormant season, either in late winter or early spring.

After the upper portion of the rootstock is removed, the scion bud grows vigorously.
 

Sunglasses

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yhe ive herd of this being done by a few people, however it is seriously for the experienced if youre really wanting to get it right. I have not done this but ive herd of people who have, and it will take a considerable amount of goes to get it right.

This is the way they sometimes cross strains i think i herd aswell.
 

hydrogrow827

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anyone else want to take a crack at this idea? cmon...give me a little feedback ganja-experts. anyone really know this stuff?
 

undo

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that meathod is for roses and fruit bushes and such with a bark that can be peeled back to insert the bud. the realevent meathod for pot would bee grafting where stems are stripped of bark on one side and joined to a stem that has been treated the same. then they are taped together. yes you can have many varieties producing bud with only one root stock.
this could be very interesting if tests were done to find the srongest root stock and graft weeker less producing types to give them more growth.
 

locoman610

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OK 8am and I'm baked but this could be interesting. I wonder if I could graft my MJ to a fruit tree? Got plenty of apple pear and peach trees
 

jimisimmortal

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grafting weed onto a tomato works but is pointless,have you learnt about layering yet?now that definately worth the effort,the biggest plant ive ever seen with my own eyes was in a greenhouse in the centre and was topped to get 6 tops, then each top tied down in a different direction and layered,as soon as the layered branches hit about 2 1/2 foot they were layered again,each top got layered five times,resulting in 31 seperate root systems. T budding could b interesting tho,imagine havin a 100 strain plant,could arrange the different colours for a rainbow of buds lol
 

undo

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how can you graft cannabis to a tomato? they come from two diffarent familys it would be like grafting a fish to cow. The only plant in the same family as cannabis is hops. and i still think its doubtfull.
 

cwcorrea

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I have done this with citrus fruit trees and grapes. The MJ plant is a dicot and it could be done on plants that are mature with good woody tissue. The enviroment would have to be ideal and clean. Marijuana is capable of being grafted. T-cut, chip budding or a saw type direct graft can be done. The trick is lining up enough vascular tissue of the dicot. Dicots have their vascular tissue or cabium right under the bark or woody tissue. The xylem and phloem are the vascular tissue and they transport the nutrients and water back and forth in the plant. Xylem on the outside of the ring transports from roots to plant and phloem is on the inside of ring and transports sugars, water and nutes down. Both make up a ring that grows outward. As it grows it leaves behind dead vascular tissue in the center (rings in a tree.)

Each of these grafts takes a piece of the cabium from the bud or the tissue you want and lines it up with the cabium of the plane (root stock ) of the other so you get a vascular connection and it takes off and grows. Miss it and no luck. Even lining up a large branch and small branch, all you have to do is have some small portion of the cabiums touching and prevent disease from getting into the rest of the open plant.

You cant do this with plants that are moncots. It is very difficult to graft a monocot.

My experience would be best to have mature plants with very thick woody stock or stems and try a whip graft or a cleft graft. (all can be found in a search). A side wedge would be interesting because you can take a branch of what you want and graft it to a healthy root stock plant. Let it take and then you can cut off the main plant and let the graft grow. If it does not take, you still have a healthy root stock plant to try again.

Hope I did not bore you. Brings back all those foggy memories of something useful. Bake out.
 

Bractman

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how can you graft cannabis to a tomato? they come from two diffarent familys it would be like grafting a fish to cow. The only plant in the same family as cannabis is hops. and i still think its doubtfull.
they added Fish DNa to a tomato to mskr it more cold resistantbut they sucked ass and quickly where taken off the market. its scarry really not just jurassic park like but the whole BM food thing and soon no one could grow there own anythin if we dont watch out!1
 

wonderblunder

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I like the T-bonin and T-baggin remark. Very interesting concept, would like to see someone do it successfully, and by no means will it be me
 
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