HASH!!! how was it for you?

bobbyhopefeild

Active Member
now, i hav always considered hash to be far less good quality and potency than good bud. I liv in england and all hash we get isnt half as good as bud, theres different grades of course but all in all the potency just isnt as strong as bud. but someone recently told me this..

' Basically hash is collected trichomes. Normally the trichomes would be collected from mature plants/plant matter. That means other than some very small amount of plant matter along with the trichomes, everything you are smoking is trichomes, that is what makes hash so potent.'

now personally i don't believe this as unless you live in the mountains of afghanistan where weed grows wild and you can afford to use top quality bud to make hash, hash is made from top leaf and just isnt as good.
but
what do you think? is hash better than bud in your area? where do you liv and is hash more or less exspensive that gud bud?
cheers riu-ers!
 

dull1554

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personally i use my trim for butter but my buddy makes bubble hash from his trim and popcorn buds.. normally about an ounce of hash every time he crops out(32 plants)

and wither or not its made from trim or buds its still just trichomes
 

JoNny Pot sMokeR

Active Member
Yeah man good bubble hash is kinda hard to beat. every one talks about the afghan hash. the turkish blonde, and the red are some of the best smoke i have ever put in my lungs. Lebenon has some super fire hash too. I have been working in the middle east for the last 8 years. and i live in Eastern Europe about 6 hours for turkey. Im gonna make a batch myself this year only my 2nd time making my own. but last time it turned out pretty good. Im gonna try 8 hash bags instead of 5 this time.
 

whiteflour

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All depends on what you get. Personally I like to smoke weed, and just used hash as a topper, but I get some killer shit out here in cali that is definitely better than weed it goes on.

Black hash - worst of the worst probably isn't as good as weed, tastes like eating from a cows ass, and is very heavy smoke. Often makes me want to puke.

Caviar (red hash) - Basically kif, looks like salmon eggs, crumbles when broken and is about as good or better than any weed. not a real heavy smoke and my favorite.

Purple hash - Pretty sure this is from purple chitral and is some of the best hash I've had. Kind of crumbly, melts under heat, but like the black hash it's heavy and choky.

Honeycomb - co2 extracted (or so they say). Looks like a green crack cookie with a swiss cheese look. Melts in your hand and smokes sweet. pretty expensive like $40+/gm.
 

bobbyhopefeild

Active Member
so somehow pure trichomes are less potent than trichomes found on bud? if its pure trichomes why is it a solid black lump?
 

dull1554

Well-Known Member
so somehow pure trichomes are less potent than trichomes found on bud? if its pure trichomes why is it a solid black lump?
no no no, proper hash is always better(stronger) then the bud it came from. ive had some pretty aweful hash too. if it was a solid black lump it wasnt bubble hash, maybe iso hash or something along those lines.

the bubble hash i get is full melt, it comes pressed into a quarter sized puck and it is normally dark blonde/light brown in color and it maintains a sandy/sticky texture, my hash pipe is a normal brass pipe with 10 SS screens in it so when the full melt hash melts it burns up by the time its made its way through the screens instead of just pooling up at the bottom of the bowl
 

bobbyhopefeild

Active Member
All depends on what you get. Personally I like to smoke weed, and just used hash as a topper, but I get some killer shit out here in cali that is definitely better than weed it goes on.

Black hash - worst of the worst probably isn't as good as weed, tastes like eating from a cows ass, and is very heavy smoke. Often makes me want to puke.

Caviar (red hash) - Basically kif, looks like salmon eggs, crumbles when broken and is about as good or better than any weed. not a real heavy smoke and my favorite.

Purple hash - Pretty sure this is from purple chitral and is some of the best hash I've had. Kind of crumbly, melts under heat, but like the black hash it's heavy and choky.

Honeycomb - co2 extracted (or so they say). Looks like a green crack cookie with a swiss cheese look. Melts in your hand and smokes sweet. pretty expensive like $40+/gm.


well all we get in england is a standard black hash that is crap in potency and sometimes smells a bit like diesel. theres also a crumbly blonde hash that seems really clean but doesnt hav any strength. and occasionally theres 'squidgey black' about which is fucking terrible hash no potency and will make your lungs scream. Ive never even heard or seen of any of those other hashes your talking about and ive been smoking the devilsl lettuce for a bout 7 years.
1 time in my entire schmoking life i hav stumbled across some really nice hash called 'charis' but even then if wasnt as good as premium bud

i think the hash in england is just shit
 

Brick Top

New Member
now, i hav always considered hash to be far less good quality and potency than good bud. I liv in england and all hash we get isnt half as good as bud, theres different grades of course but all in all the potency just isnt as strong as bud. but someone recently told me this..

' Basically hash is collected trichomes. Normally the trichomes would be collected from mature plants/plant matter. That means other than some very small amount of plant matter along with the trichomes, everything you are smoking is trichomes, that is what makes hash so potent.'

now personally i don't believe this as unless you live in the mountains of afghanistan where weed grows wild and you can afford to use top quality bud to make hash, hash is made from top leaf and just isnt as good.
but
what do you think? is hash better than bud in your area? where do you liv and is hash more or less exspensive that gud bud?
cheers riu-ers!
Even before you mentioned you live in England I was thinking to myself that you must live in England.

When it comes to commercial pot & hash England has on average had pretty low quality examples of both for a fairly long time. That is a large reason why the skunk craze was such a major deal and how, at least in some circles/areas, skunk became more of a class or grade of pot than a collection of various 'skunk' strains. It can even somewhat shown in the movie “Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels” when they mention "skunk-class" in regards to a stolen crop.

If you compare top quality pot and top quality hash, lets say hash made from the very same pot, the hash will be more potent by volume and it could be FAR more potent by volume depending on how it was made.

Hash is just trichome heads collected from pot plants. You separate the trichome heads from the plant matter and what you have left is hash. Since THC is created in trichome heads, if you are smoking plant matter that itself does not contain any THC and the plant matter has some trichome heads on it containing THC or if you are smoking almost totally nothing but trichome heads, that of course contain THC, and there is the absolute minimum amount of plant matter that does not contain THC being smoked …. what sort of difference would you expect?

Try looking at it like this: If you have a certain volume amount and maybe 90% of it is made up of matter that does not contain any THC or other cannabinoids and compare it to an exact same volume amount of matter that is maybe 90% trichomes, meaning filled with THC and other cannabinoids, when you smoke it for each single hit/puff/tug/toke will you be taking in more THC and other cannibinoids if it is the 90% plant matter without trichomes matter you are smoking or the 90% trichome matter you are smoking?

In each hit/puff/tug/toke you take when smoking hash you take in far more THC and other cannibinoids than you do smoking pot because the trichome heads have been removed from the plant matter and are then in a very highly condensed form compared to when smoking pot.

If you smoked low quality hash it was low quality because it came from low quality pot and likely was made using a system where you only end up with one grade of hash and that will be whatever each batch averages in quality when quality of pot and amount of plant matter left in the hash are combined.

If you want to experience quality has purchase a set of high quality ‘bubble bags’ and a strain of pot of the general type you like .. meaning indica, cross or sativa, and purchase the highest quality genetics you can afford.

With all the seedbanks to pick from and the various strains in the various breeder lines someone does not have to live in; "the mountains of afghanistan where weed grows wild" to find top quality strains. Personally I would prefer something from Vietnam or some other mainly sativa growing area of the world over anything from Afghanistan, but that's just me. The point is that quality genetics are available to anyone and everyone almost anywhere in the world if they have an Internet connection and a few bucks.

Collect your trimmings after you harvest, and if you want the very best of hash use the entire plant(s) .. but some are incapable of doing that and had to have bud and hash … and use your ‘bubble bag’ set. To give you some idea of yield, for 100 grams of trim from quality genetics you should end up with roughly 10 grams of hash.

For those who might not know what ‘bubble bags’ are, they are a set/series of waterproof bags with mesh bottoms where the mesh grows continually smaller (measured in microns) from bag to bag. You combine your trimmings with water and ice in the ‘work bag’ that has been placed in a 5-gallon bucket and you mix/blend like you are making a cake. The process knocks the trichomes off the plant matter they are attached to.

When finished mixing you pour the contents of the ‘work bag’ into the other bags that have been put one inside of each other in the correct mesh measurement order going from the widest mesh first to the finest mesh bag on the bottom.

One at a time you remove each bag and scrape the goo found, which is hash, off the screen on the bottom of each bag. The first bag(s) will have some increased amount of plant matter so the quality will be good but not the top of the pops, but quality will increase with each bag until you get to the bag just before the last. That is where your best hash will come from. There will be the very least amount of plant matter and the largest number of trichomes by volume.

The final screen, the one logic would want to tell you should produce the highest grade hash, most times will give you something on average roughly a bit better than the average grade you get from the range in quality you end up with from each bag. The finest screen catches a lot of broken trichome heads and the resin will drain or partially drain from them reducing the amount of THC, and other cannabinoids, so it is a step down or backwards in quality from the previous bag’s collected hash. How big of a step down or backwards will vary, but it will contain a number of broken trichome heads and that equates to lower quality.

Make some hash like that, start with the very best genetics you can afford and then make ‘bubble hash’ and after you sample what comes from the screen with the second smallest micron mesh get back to me about hash and pot and what is higher quality or better etc.

You said; "now personally i don't believe this." That is of course your prerogative. It is also your prerogative to believe the world is flat and that the moon is made of blue cheese if that is what you would like to believe to be true. Myself, I would love to believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the missile shield and strippers with a heart of gold .... but those things are not real, they are not facts ... just the same as your belief about hash and pot is not real and it is not factual.

Evidently you have created your belief structure using a cause and effect, connecting the dots sort of system but you failed you realize that what was cause and effect to you and what dots you had to connect were totally different than elsewhere in the world ..... and if that is not enough they run totally contrary to proven fact.

In other words it is clear that what you have experienced in both pot and hash has not been the best representation or example of each and it has skewed your perspective making it seem totally accurate to you when it is actually totally inaccurate.
 

bobbyhopefeild

Active Member
thanks for the pics, i hav never seen hash like anything other than black lump or a brown lump, thats really interesting, i never considered other countries having really different types of hash. its looks kinda like unrefined sugar or something or like honeycomb. lol you should send me some, i wanna try that shit.
 

Brick Top

New Member
i never considered other countries having really different types of hash.

That is, in a nutshell, a prime example of why there are so many bits of misinformation and half-truths and myths and urban legends and misperceptions about growing, about strains and in this case about hash. It is the; “i never considered” part.

Many people make decisions of what something is or is not, what is true or false, factual or not, good or bad, better or best, right or wrong, how things work or do not work and why and they create misperceptions for themselves based on an extremely small sampling of something and on very small amounts of information that is always rated or judged by a persons senses only and not based on anything actually tested and proven or even compared to what is average around the rest of the world.
 

bobbyhopefeild

Active Member
Even before you mentioned you live in England I was thinking to myself that you must live in England.

When it comes to commercial pot & hash England has on average had pretty low quality examples of both for a fairly long time. That is a large reason why the skunk craze was such a major deal and how, at least in some circles/areas, skunk became more of a class or grade of pot than a collection of various 'skunk' strains. It can even somewhat shown in the movie “Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels” when they mention "skunk-class" in regards to a stolen crop.

If you compare top quality pot and top quality hash, lets say hash made from the very same pot, the hash will be more potent by volume and it could be FAR more potent by volume depending on how it was made.

Hash is just trichome heads collected from pot plants. You separate the trichome heads from the plant matter and what you have left is hash. Since THC is created in trichome heads, if you are smoking plant matter that itself does not contain any THC and the plant matter has some trichome heads on it containing THC or if you are smoking almost totally nothing but trichome heads, that of course contain THC, and there is the absolute minimum amount of plant matter that does not contain THC being smoked …. what sort of difference would you expect?

Try looking at it like this: If you have a certain volume amount and maybe 90% of it is made up of matter that does not contain any THC or other cannabinoids and compare it to an exact same volume amount of matter that is maybe 90% trichomes, meaning filled with THC and other cannabinoids, when you smoke it for each single hit/puff/tug/toke will you be taking in more THC and other cannibinoids if it is the 90% plant matter without trichomes matter you are smoking or the 90% trichome matter you are smoking?

In each hit/puff/tug/toke you take when smoking hash you take in far more THC and other cannibinoids than you do smoking pot because the trichome heads have been removed from the plant matter and are then in a very highly condensed form compared to when smoking pot.

If you smoked low quality hash it was low quality because it came from low quality pot and likely was made using a system where you only end up with one grade of hash and that will be whatever each batch averages in quality when quality of pot and amount of plant matter left in the hash are combined.

If you want to experience quality has purchase a set of high quality ‘bubble bags’ and a strain of pot of the general type you like .. meaning indica, cross or sativa, and purchase the highest quality genetics you can afford.

With all the seedbanks to pick from and the various strains in the various breeder lines someone does not have to live in; "the mountains of afghanistan where weed grows wild" to find top quality strains. Personally I would prefer something from Vietnam or some other mainly sativa growing area of the world over anything from Afghanistan, but that's just me. The point is that quality genetics are available to anyone and everyone almost anywhere in the world if they have an Internet connection and a few bucks.

Collect your trimmings after you harvest, and if you want the very best of hash use the entire plant(s) .. but some are incapable of doing that and had to have bud and hash … and use your ‘bubble bag’ set. To give you some idea of yield, for 100 grams of trim from quality genetics you should end up with roughly 10 grams of hash.

For those who might not know what ‘bubble bags’ are, they are a set/series of waterproof bags with mesh bottoms where the mesh grows continually smaller (measured in microns) from bag to bag. You combine your trimmings with water and ice in the ‘work bag’ that has been placed in a 5-gallon bucket and you mix/blend like you are making a cake. The process knocks the trichomes off the plant matter they are attached to.

When finished mixing you pour the contents of the ‘work bag’ into the other bags that have been put one inside of each other in the correct mesh measurement order going from the widest mesh first to the finest mesh bag on the bottom.

One at a time you remove each bag and scrape the goo found, which is hash, off the screen on the bottom of each bag. The first bag(s) will have some increased amount of plant matter so the quality will be good but not the top of the pops, but quality will increase with each bag until you get to the bag just before the last. That is where your best hash will come from. There will be the very least amount of plant matter and the largest number of trichomes by volume.

The final screen, the one logic would want to tell you should produce the highest grade hash, most times will give you something on average roughly a bit better than the average grade you get from the range in quality you end up with from each bag. The finest screen catches a lot of broken trichome heads and the resin will drain or partially drain from them reducing the amount of THC, and other cannabinoids, so it is a step down or backwards in quality from the previous bag’s collected hash. How big of a step down or backwards will vary, but it will contain a number of broken trichome heads and that equates to lower quality.

Make some hash like that, start with the very best genetics you can afford and then make ‘bubble hash’ and after you sample what comes from the screen with the second smallest micron mesh get back to me about hash and pot and what is higher quality or better etc.

You said; "now personally i don't believe this." That is of course your prerogative. It is also your prerogative to believe the world is flat and that the moon is made of blue cheese if that is what you would like to believe to be true. Myself, I would love to believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the missile shield and strippers with a heart of gold .... but those things are not real, they are not facts ... just the same as your belief about hash and pot is not real and it is not factual.

Evidently you have created your belief structure using a cause and effect, connecting the dots sort of system but you failed you realize that what was cause and effect to you and what dots you had to connect were totally different than elsewhere in the world ..... and if that is not enough they run totally contrary to proven fact.

In other words it is clear that what you have experienced in both pot and hash has not been the best representation or example of each and it has skewed your perspective making it seem totally accurate to you when it is actually totally inaccurate.
well thankyou for that 15 page sleeping pill, i waded through half of it and realised im not as lame as you are, i really dont care that much which is stronger, hash or weed, i hav a life and it doesnt revolve around posting info about weed.
 

d.s.m.

Well-Known Member
well thankyou for that 15 page sleeping pill, i waded through half of it and realised im not as lame as you are, i really dont care that much which is stronger, hash or weed, i hav a life and it doesnt revolve around posting info about weed.
Then why did you start this thread?
 

Airwave

Well-Known Member
If you smoke hash in the uk you must be crazy. Why do you think you find plastic in the middle of a lump? Because they throw all kinds of shit in there to make up the weight, that's why.
Only once have I ever had any good hash. It was called 'Gold Seal' and it only came around a few times a year.
 

bobbyhopefeild

Active Member
If you smoke hash in the uk you must be crazy. Why do you think you find plastic in the middle of a lump? Because they throw all kinds of shit in there to make up the weight, that's why.
Only once have I ever had any good hash. It was called 'Gold Seal' and it only came around a few times a year.
yea i agree, ive only ever exsperienced good hash once and so my perspective is skewed towards thinking almost all hash is pretty much shit and ive had hash b4 with lumps of plastic in it.
 
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