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Okay i'm going to start off by saying thank you for opening this thread!

RIU i have an issue I popped some bag seed and yes I know there is no insurance there but hey whats done is done anyways. This been has been different from the start. It is a tricotyledonous defect. And is growing in sets of three instead of the orthodox DI-cotyledon. That isn't my issue but im wondering if the extra set of leaves are causing the plant to struggle to grow efficiently. It is two weeks old yesterday and is 2inches tall, pale green, canoeing on the primary leaves and has a weird black strip growing along the perimeter of the leaves.

This isn't my first time at this although I am a hydroponics hobbyist and am trying a soil grow which is proving different and frustrating to see potential deficiencies so early on.

Here are some images. What do you think?
Abandonment = failure and not an option.. what else should i do?

What kind of soil is it in and what is the PH of water? I would not consider trashing that plant at all yet, it looks stressed and the stunting could be a concern but it looks like it will be fine if giving time, sometimes a plant can get a little stressed if the soil is hot or PH is a little off, but it's an easy fix once you figure it out. The triploid thing is rare but from what I understand it is not a bad thing really.

No way I trash that plant. Have to agree with the above ^^^^^^^^^^^^ post. Need more info ( lights/soil/nutes etc etc ) to make a better diagnosis, but no way I trash that plant yet.

very rarely do they ever have trinode all the way threw growth, Ive had a few trinodes seedlings grow out in to normal plants

if it is indeed tripliod then its a great chance it will take much longer to flower, than if it wasnt ...but more potent

thanks for the fast replies, soil is a mix of scott's garden soil and some cheap soil but i added the cheap soil in the mix because it had limestone, perlite and peatmoss. I figured the added limestone will benefit the plant by adding calcium. I have it vegging with an 8 band 180w led light about 5 inches from the plant. (which hasn't been a problem in hydroponics for me). Will flower with the 180 and a 300w 9 band led. Temp range is 70f to 82f max no nutes added as of yet. I am going to try this true organic using hardwood ash, banana peel water, eggshell dust, molasses and liquid karma. Adding worm castings to help convert nutrients via micro bacterial cultures.

I have grown atleast 10 or so and have never seen this happen and the fact that it has started so early concerns me.

youngbuzz101 said:

thanks for the fast replies, soil is a mix of scott's garden soil and some cheap soil but i added the cheap soil in the mix because it had limestone, perlite and peatmoss. I figured the added limestone will benefit the plant by adding calcium. I have it vegging with an 8 band 180w led light about 5 inches from the plant. (which hasn't been a problem in hydroponics for me). Will flower with the 180 and a 300w 9 band led. Temp range is 70f to 82f max no nutes added as of yet. I am going to try this true organic using hardwood ash, banana peel water, eggshell dust, molasses and liquid karma. Adding worm castings to help convert nutrients via micro bacterial cultures.

I have grown atleast 10 or so and have never seen this happen and the fact that it has started so early concerns me.

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Scott's brand is the same brand that makes Miracle Gro, not that means a damn thing. I've grown some dank in moister control Miracle Gro.

So then what do you think the issue is? I have taken some better quality pictures on my Fuji i'll up load those momentarily.

Here are the update photos. I watered the plant lightly with my aquarium water, I figure there are many microbes that will be beneficial to the plant in the water. I figured it was already F'd up so what do I have to loose. Oh and the ph of my tap water ranges from 6.8 - 7.2 depending on the day.

looks like nitrogen burn and hot soil... those soils run hot due to the slow release nitrogen.

thank you hyroot. How do you suppose i cool the soil? Should i flush it?

Not to second guess you but wouldn't nitrogen burns preliminary be darkening of the leaves? Since mine lacked in color I automatically ruled that out. Can you explain how I can better understand this issue to avoid it in the future. I have done my research and bought a couple horticulture books but to me its confusing all the deficiencies look the same to me.

looks like too much n and a molybdenum def after a second look. flush and foliar spray with kelp. I dont give any nutes to seedlings until they hav 3 -4 full nodes after the petiole leaves

okay cool +rep will do if i can find kelp lol. I haven't feed her any nutes but I figure it was already incorporated in my soil. I will flush her now.

how about if I cant get a kelp spray are there any other alternatives?

Anything that has potassium. You can get dry kelp meal pretty cheap. Soak for a day or 2 (aerate optional) then strain. Use water for foliar. Then you can re-use the kelp meal. 1/4 cup per half gal of water.

great to know thanks.

When you flush tine release nutes it only intensifies them.. I believe you either repot or wait and see if they make it through.

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cool yeah im going to have to replant she is looking ROUGH this morning!!

update
This is possibly the worst soil ever.