SurfdOut
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I don't think so....but I stay in the hills and am kinda disconnected....
Hawaii Growers
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Cooter@666
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Has anyone ever tried "Subcool's" soil recipe? I'm considering giving it a try. I find it interesting that you grow amazing MJ with super soil that doesn’t require a nute regiment, I use the FF trio and soluble’s but if you get a little heavy handed with it you torch your plants…I hate that! Super Soil, good genetics, and water….that my cup of tea if it really works J
SurfdOut
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Use the 2010 revised recipe and divide by 4, go heavy on the worm castings....just use 1lbs for the meals....fits into one 55gal rubbish bin perfectly...cook as long as possible.....try to get the best castings can.....Aaron at Green Hands has castings from that Ewa guy who uses rabbits...exspensive though..contact Ewa dude directly...better yet make your own worm bin...
SurfdOut
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"Developed by DJ Short's son, 'JD', the Whitaker Blues is a true Oregon Heritage cross. The mother of the Whitaker Blues is currently referred to as 'Quimby'; an old-school, West Coast staple cut reminiscent of a classic, early indica lineage -- strong and sleepy in its effect.
Quimby was crossed with DJ Short's personal Blueberry father, making the Whitaker Blues appear approx. 80% indica and 20% sativa in structure. It is a stout plant, short branching, sporting large compact buds loaded with resin-very vigorous and productive indoors with hues of violet and blue at its 55-62 day finish. Finished buds have a pungent/sweet velvety grap and slight vanilla flavor. Effect is strong with slight initial stimulation inspiring increased appetite (munchies) and a sedative after-effect."
Quimby was crossed with DJ Short's personal Blueberry father, making the Whitaker Blues appear approx. 80% indica and 20% sativa in structure. It is a stout plant, short branching, sporting large compact buds loaded with resin-very vigorous and productive indoors with hues of violet and blue at its 55-62 day finish. Finished buds have a pungent/sweet velvety grap and slight vanilla flavor. Effect is strong with slight initial stimulation inspiring increased appetite (munchies) and a sedative after-effect."
Cru31,
My lights were costing me,and still is costing me roughly around $350.00 to $425.00 a month here on the Big Island. I'm glad you moved into the world of CO2. Do you plan to be a commercial grower? If not why the CO2 emersion? Especially if you worry about heat being thrown off y your HPS bulb. CO2 doesn't work until it 84 or 85 degrees in room, you are aware of that right?
Cru3l
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Yes, I'm going to raise my temps to high 70's, low 80s. No plans to be a commercial grower, I really enjoy learning all aspects of growing
Cooter@666
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Shoots!...eh btw what do you use or recommend for the base soil? I usually use FFOF and Kelloggs Patio Plus (1:1 ratio) with added perlite, I dont want to use the FFOF any longer. Do you thing the Kelloggs Patio Plus is good enough as the stand alone base soil?
Hawaiian kind
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Aloha Guys Just been so busy with so much these days I wanted to chime in on a few things:
1-Puna What Kush Do you want i have all of them and would be glad to send them to you most of it is lame add's for places and head shops but a ok read. I can send them over if you want or stop in the shop when your in the big city ill give them to you. I did the Kushcon and after that they let go the Head guy for the mag Not sure if there going to keep it going?
Cru3l- Nice Job Bro Looks Like you got things going. When you use co2 make sure you have good air movement as Co2 falls fast and wasted at the bottom and place your tube into a good air flow to distribute.
Cooter I like Kelloggs its a great soil just a little chunky with bark now and then. Try Roots organic Greenfields Its the same make up of FFOF but better. My all time best soil Besides making it myself comes from ALL MIX BIO BIZZ but now there are new sunshine mixes out that are Fing great and cheap i have a 2cft bag for 19.95 but it is compressed so it fills 4cft I get a news contaner of soil in about a week if any of you want to try it let me know you saw it on here and ill give you $3 off a bag of any thing
Worm castings are not cheap but if you want i will sell anyone on here a puond price of $2 or 10 puonds for 18.95 so 1.85 a pound just let anyone in the shop know you saw the price here.
Sorry I have been busy and dont get to get on here very much but miss the good chatter
FYI- Green Hands OF Aloha will Have a huge customer Day with lots of free Gear and give aways I have aboout 3 pallets of systems lights cloners and nutrentds to give away just trying to look at a date that will work so look for it and be there for lots of free gear. I think its going to be in June and its all day with bands food and FREE STUFF!! also ED Rosenthal may attend if all works out.
Class coming up on april 28th May have a few speacial Guest from the mainland " Nutrent guys from Green planet wholesale, Owner of Sunpulse lighting and a grow speacelist from Cap controllers/ R & M supply. Look on our web site for more details
ALOHA and Mahalo
HK
1-Puna What Kush Do you want i have all of them and would be glad to send them to you most of it is lame add's for places and head shops but a ok read. I can send them over if you want or stop in the shop when your in the big city ill give them to you. I did the Kushcon and after that they let go the Head guy for the mag Not sure if there going to keep it going?
Cru3l- Nice Job Bro Looks Like you got things going. When you use co2 make sure you have good air movement as Co2 falls fast and wasted at the bottom and place your tube into a good air flow to distribute.
Cooter I like Kelloggs its a great soil just a little chunky with bark now and then. Try Roots organic Greenfields Its the same make up of FFOF but better. My all time best soil Besides making it myself comes from ALL MIX BIO BIZZ but now there are new sunshine mixes out that are Fing great and cheap i have a 2cft bag for 19.95 but it is compressed so it fills 4cft I get a news contaner of soil in about a week if any of you want to try it let me know you saw it on here and ill give you $3 off a bag of any thing
Worm castings are not cheap but if you want i will sell anyone on here a puond price of $2 or 10 puonds for 18.95 so 1.85 a pound just let anyone in the shop know you saw the price here.
Sorry I have been busy and dont get to get on here very much but miss the good chatter
FYI- Green Hands OF Aloha will Have a huge customer Day with lots of free Gear and give aways I have aboout 3 pallets of systems lights cloners and nutrentds to give away just trying to look at a date that will work so look for it and be there for lots of free gear. I think its going to be in June and its all day with bands food and FREE STUFF!! also ED Rosenthal may attend if all works out.
Class coming up on april 28th May have a few speacial Guest from the mainland " Nutrent guys from Green planet wholesale, Owner of Sunpulse lighting and a grow speacelist from Cap controllers/ R & M supply. Look on our web site for more details
ALOHA and Mahalo
HK
Cooter@666
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Thanks HK...I'll be in your shop this weekend to pick up some soil and other goodies from you
Cooter, I used it three years ago. The startup cost was roughly around $500.oo for what Sub tells you to get for his super soil mix. Perhaps it works in Oregon & Cali. but here it was lacking trememdously. I'm an organic dirt farmer. I know growing 100% organic you won't get any major weight, just quality. Let me just put it this way "Coot", there is 101 soil recipes out there that are better than Sub's nad at half the price. Keep that in mind.Thanks HK...I'll be in your shop this weekend to pick up some soil and other goodies from you
Cooter@666
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Shoots Braddah Puna!....I'll be doing a little experimentation then :0…. In your experience what would you use (or add to the soil) to boost the yield?
SurfdOut
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Have to agree to disagree on that one Puna, I've always been organic and made teas and shit with my rabbits, horses, and cows and compost pile, but was quite happy with Subs 2010 recipe. What did you find lacking? While I do prefer no animal by-product, I did find the meals made locally and organic. How did it cost you $500, even at making the full batch?
I have a grow documenting this soil on THC Farmer under the grow journals "Outdoor Deadheads".
I'd love to hear more about what you didn't like about this soil.
Thanks for your input Puna, as I highly value all your good advice, and love reading your posts....
I have a grow documenting this soil on THC Farmer under the grow journals "Outdoor Deadheads".
I'd love to hear more about what you didn't like about this soil.
Thanks for your input Puna, as I highly value all your good advice, and love reading your posts....
watersrunning
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oh man i can't waitt!! have you experience with growing it?? i seen a thread with a pics from start to finish and it didn't look like i could take many clones off of it but i want to mother her and clone her because I only had one free seed of her.....
Mahalo!
pepperbelly
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GHOA ....put me down for a pallett of roots organic 707 baby ...that stuff is bomb .E nuff nutrients to feed a plants for 6 weeks .....gets umto 30" and outside they go !
How did it come to around $500.00 ,you ask? Most of ingredients were 50pd. bags, with the exception of Humic acid & Aozomite[sp]. My biggest problem with his super soil was it was based on layering. Layering if not done properly could cause plant burn,etc.,etc..
I gotta tell you , I went into this experiment with open arms. but anytime I try something new, I always do a side by side grow. Old versus new,...always! I never noticed surge in growth whatsoever. On the contrary. I ended up adding nutrients to the mix. Why? Did my roots not make it down to other layers? I don't know. But I was truly disappointed, but didn't curse Subcools name at all. With growing over the years(started in 74) came many disappointments. But every-time I failed, I came back stronger the next time!
Bottom-line, I'm , I'm addicted to growing, and I gotta express my feelings at times.
Right now we are living in "Harsh times",so the GOP tells us. I' just think "Cooter" could benefit just as much from a cheaper recipe, than using Sub's. I mean are you guys paying attention to the national news? Sorry if any of you are Republicans, because this party is trying to kill off the middle class. FDR would roll over in his grave if he knew what's going on. Trying to blame labor union for our woes is bullshit! Financial investment Banks are the reason our country is in the shit we find ourselves in. Not one person went to prison for the Wall St. collapse,..thanks
Sorry, I have a problem with this shit going on in our national news. I hope all you registered blue card holders are pro active in the cannabis community. Just growing & smoking isn't good enough. Have you seen the new June issue of High Times yet? Great article on Montana's grow community. Yet are you aware that the state of Montana is trying to repeal the medical cannabis law there? Everything there now depends on the Gov. of Montana. It's gonna be close, he's a gun touting liberal. But Gov. Sweitzer has been getting a lot of pressure from the right. If Montana falls, it will mean the start of a domino effect. Every right wing Nazi will think they can do the same thing in their state. So I hope you all are card holders that aren't apathetic?
Sorry about rant "B"