Hawaii Growers

808HI

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Braddahs, anyone here see ants on their plants. I've notice some ants and was wondering if they could cause potential harm. Also, when and how do u guys water feed ur outdoor flowers. Do u guys flood them till water comes out the bottom of the pot then add ur nutrient filled water or do u guys just make ur tea and feed them? Much mahalos braddas, looking great everyone. Alojahz
 

beardofzeus

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I've seen those "little fire ants" on some of mine, they aren't the same as normal fire ants. Havent noticed any ill effects on plants, but they are quite painful if you get bit and leave welts for about a week. They are pretty hard to get rid of as well, as they are really tiny.

I usually give plants a root drench with nutes or tea and then finish with regular water till it seeps out the bottom.
 

beardofzeus

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How many of you outdoor guys monitor your ph? I've never had too big of problems with my plants so I never worried about it but I recently decided to pick up a ph meter after talking with two separate friends. I've been using it in my vegetable garden and noticed some difference with some bell peppers i'm growing. Turns out my regular feeding mixture was too acidic for the peppers.
 

Mohican

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My garden hose was putting out 8 pH water so now I add phosphoric acid to get the pH around 5.7 - same as my rain water.
 

grassified

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My garden hose was putting out 8 pH water so now I add phosphoric acid to get the pH around 5.7 - same as my rain water.

I got some GH PH down its phosphoric acid, how many drops per gallon do you use of that stuff do you estimate?

My 60$ cheap horrible milwaukee PH meter broke, will never buy their products again! It was like a 60$ McDonald's toy!

did you make any seeds off that malawi plant or just keep a clone? It looks great! Cannot wait to hear a smoke report!

heres a good smoke report of the same strain so you know what your in for!!! (pure heaven:joint:)

https://www.rollitup.org/smoke-reports/532147-malawi-landrace-sativa-130-days.html
 

DelSlow

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Hey guys, just wondering where you get your soil amendments from? Stuff like worm castings, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, etc. I'm kind of a hermit lolThanks!
 

Mohican

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Farm supply stores are the best - good people and good products without the hype :)

I put 3 mls of Phosphoric acid in my 5 gallon buckets and that gets me to around 6.5 - 5.9 pH. Hard water take smore acid to change the pH. I spent the money on a Blue Labs pH pen. Properly pHed water seems to really make a difference. Is volcanic soil more acidic? I know my Gardenia loves acid and iron.

The indoor turned out very mild with an easy stone. I was afraid to smoke it after all of the root problems. It was so sneeky I thought it did not have a stone and then I tried to work my garden and could not figure out which faucet to turn on for the hose I wanted. Sprayed myself pretty good! :P


Cheers,
Mo
 

beardofzeus

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For worm castings, It's very easy to setup your own worm bin for about $20. You can find people selling the proper worms (red wigglers, or indian blues) on craigslist, and you only need a small initial colony to get things started. I get a full tray of worm juice about every other week and I mix it with some rain water and just bubble it over night with some EWC's, molasses, and bunch of other stuff over night till its nice and foamy.
 

DelSlow

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Thanks guys. Any place in particular you guys recommend?

beardofzeus that is a good idea. I was thinking about making a worm bin.
 

Cooter@666

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For worm castings, It's very easy to setup your own worm bin for about $20. You can find people selling the proper worms (red wigglers, or indian blues) on craigslist, and you only need a small initial colony to get things started. I get a full tray of worm juice about every other week and I mix it with some rain water and just bubble it over night with some EWC's, molasses, and bunch of other stuff over night till its nice and foamy.
Dude...why buy worms?...just dig a whole and find some, there are no indigenous worms in Hawaii, most of the worms that are in Hawaii are European worms like you mentioned above, don't pay some dick face $20 an oz for fucking worms when you more than likely have them living in your garden.
 

beardofzeus

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I'm not a worm expert, but I have read that the common fat earthworms found in deeper soil are not the preferred type for composting. I had a friend try to use earthworms from his yard in a worm bin and he was unsuccessful. Red Wigglers and Indian blues have a bigger appetite and will eat through your compost quicker. Granted you can find red wigglers and indian blues around your yard as well, you have to know where to look and be able to identify the proper species. They tend to be found more towards the surface in piles of decaying leaves and stuff rather than in deeper soil and are smaller/faster than the common earthworm.

A single $20 investment for a lb of the proper worms is very reasonable considering they will deliver free EWC's for the rest of your life and its far cheaper than the ridiculous prices i've seen on locally made EWC's at Ohana. In urbanized areas like Oahu, i think most would find it difficult to round up enough of the proper species to properly establish a worm bin.
 

Cooter@666

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I'm not a worm expert, but I have read that the common fat earthworms found in deeper soil are not the preferred type for composting. I had a friend try to use earthworms from his yard in a worm bin and he was unsuccessful. Red Wigglers and Indian blues have a bigger appetite and will eat through your compost quicker. Granted you can find red wigglers and indian blues around your yard as well, you have to know where to look and be able to identify the proper species. They tend to be found more towards the surface in piles of decaying leaves and stuff rather than in deeper soil and are smaller/faster than the common earthworm.

A single $20 investment for a lb of the proper worms is very reasonable considering they will deliver free EWC's for the rest of your life and its far cheaper than the ridiculous prices i've seen on locally made EWC's at Ohana. In urbanized areas like Oahu, i think most would find it difficult to round up enough of the proper species to properly establish a worm bin.
The worms in Hawaii are composting worms...I have dug up 100's of worm and used them successfully...in a worm bin that i built myself..it fucking takes about 5 minutes to collect $20 worth of worm from my garden, if your comfortable throwing your money away...go head. BTW DS was asking where to get amendments, not make a fucking worm bin!...$20 dollars for a pound of worms? where? try $20 an ounce for worms, $20X16oz= $320 per pound....if you can find them at a better rate ...good for you...but they're free if if you dig them up yourself.

Okay lets look at this a little differently maybe you'll understand this: i also have a compost pile when i turn my compost i find red and blue worms living in my compost pile. What kind of worms are they
? If they're not composting worm wtf are they doing in there? C'mon dude this common sense.
 

beardofzeus

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woah...calm down. No need to rant like a asshole over nothing. Part of DS' question was where to get stuff like castings, I suggested they look into building their own worm bin. That's all.
 

Mohican

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Got any pics of your compost setup? I am trying to put one together using pallets. I also have an old compost grinder to break stuff up in to smaller bits.


Here are some pics to make you all smile :)





































Cheers,
Mo
 

DelSlow

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LOL my first post in a while and I cause drama. Not my intention.

I appreciate the links cooter! And I appreciate everyones input on the subject. I have seen red/blue looking worms while fucking around outside in the dirt so I guess I'll just grab a bunch of those.

Thanks again guys. I think I'm going shopping this weekend :leaf:
 

Cooter@666

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woah...calm down. No need to rant like a asshole over nothing. Part of DS' question was where to get stuff like castings, I suggested they look into building their own worm bin. That's all.
Brah that's a typical response from somebody who just got schooled....i'd be angry too, nobody likes being wrong!...I've been around this tread for quite awhile and i was just setting the record straight, If I'm an asshole for keeping the information on this thread accurate...then your right I'm an asshole....lol...no hard feeling here dude
 

Cooter@666

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LOL my first post in a while and I cause drama. Not my intention.

I appreciate the links cooter! And I appreciate everyones input on the subject. I have seen red/blue looking worms while fucking around outside in the dirt so I guess I'll just grab a bunch of those.

Thanks again guys. I think I'm going shopping this weekend :leaf:
Right on DelSlow...the best way to catch them is to mix some shredded paper with some compost and leave it in your garden for a few weeks, in time there will be 100's of composting worm just beneath the pile...it doesn't take much, a couple inches of the paper/compost in the area you're trying to harvest the worms, and keep the area fairly moist
 
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