Hawaii Growers

Doc/KK's YB/TW has entered the Dojo! (Plant height was 10" prior to flower)

I'm going to guess this plant will stretch to about 3'(ish) give or take a few inches. Sound about right Doc?

Got 64 gallons of SHM#4, coco, casting, and dolomite cooking up as we speak, Going to try the same approach to soil that Soma illustrated in his book. My approach is a little different, I'll top feeding with FF MC dry granules, for veg, then I'll be moving on to AACT's for flower.

I just loaded up two 32 gallon trash cans also using RO,Kellogg's,coco,Ewc,dolomite, hf t&v and some vermiculite as my base for subs SS.
It's been a couple days now and it's still cold to the touch, is it cooking or what, Thought this stuff was hot?!

It is breaking down, it won't get hot like the compost pile.....

SpliffAndMyLady said:

I just loaded up two 32 gallon trash cans also using RO,Kellogg's,coco,Ewc,dolomite, hf t&v and some vermiculite as my base for subs SS.
It's been a couple days now and it's still cold to the touch, is it cooking or what, Thought this stuff was hot?!

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brah what you made is "Sliff's soil"! give yourself some credit for thinking outside of the "Sub Cool SS" box! there's nothing wrong with Vic's soil mix, it works great (yes I'm giving credit to Vic for Sub's self-coined SS recipe)

Thanks Surf'd, did you recover okay from "da fin"? Hope your okole stay okay.


"Spliff's soil" is defined by getting down on the ground and digging, tilling around like a piggy and adding a tuna can of goodies here and their.lol
Hey Coot; Why don't you stick some stakes in your pots to strap those lower branches down horizontally. I mean it's more work, but if your feeling up to it I'm sure it will give you a little + in yield, some air flow too... or you could just bend them every otherer day by hand. They look vigurous

Sour D/Columbian Gold @ 8 weeks


Then @ 10 weeks

SpliffAndMyLady said:

Hey Coot; Why don't you stick some stakes in your pots to strap those lower branches down horizontally. I mean it's more work, but if your feeling up to it I'm sure it will give you a little + in yield, some air flow too... or you could just bend them every otherer day by hand. They look vigurous

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I don't do much staking unless i suspect my plants might be a little on the vampire side..lol Honestly for the most part i let my plants do whatever they want, at this point staking the lower branches would make them weaker, once the flowers start to develop the branches will be strong enough to support themselves with out any assistance.

I do prune off some the lower growth to enusre the flowers above them aren't robbing them me of any yield, but its at a minimum. I don't sell any of my medicine so yield isn't much of an issue for Ole Coot...lol. Airflow isn't any issue either, the Dojo has a vented roof, its also floor less and on casters, if the wind blows a cunt hair those bitches dance, the Dojo has awesome airflow

Eh Spliff,

If you have any SS left you should do a side by side for shits a giggles.... Spliff vs. SS....... Brah i get my mawnee on da Spliffstah!...lol

Automatic! I'm about to make up a canopy of sort for this long season,or poly tunnels and air beds. Sort of soma style, or should I say pepstyle?
...Decisions, decisions.

Attn: Hawaii Growers....
I was thinking since we have so many talented growers on this thread, that we should finally do some kind end-of-the long season harvest cup!!
It's 2013... and since 13 is significant in Marijuana folklore.. as M is the 13th letter of the alphabet,
it's no better time than to have our 1st annual ####### cup Someone think of a good name

I think sometime during the month of October... obviously we will never discuss the actual date here.
But we can post details of the event here afterwards- & post photos of the winning entries etc.

We should do it somewhere on the Big Island.. (ya we got more folks here now ) We have tons of great parks..
Possibly do a 2 day event where we camp.. cause you know those city boys from Oahu like Cooter are gonna want to come too

We can agree to rules as a community:
I would suggest-
Hawaiian-grown only to start.. (imagine if stuffs got legalized here, this could be bigger than HT cannabis cup... )
Maybe 3 categories.. Sativa/Sativa Dom, Indica/Indica Dom, Hawaiian Heritage (ex. kona gold, puna budder, maui wowie etc.)
Judges= all the participants
Entries will be only marked with the category(ex. S-3) and a sequential number so nobody will have an advantage..
we can figure out some kind of rating system.. ie 1-10, Aroma, Flavor, High

As far as participants go.. I would have to insist that you can have at least 2 (if not more) people on this Hawaii Growers thread that have met you and can vouch for you...
I hope I don't have to explain the rationale behind that... you can submit anon entries on behalf of friends who cannot or will not attend
I've already got 3-4 participants (inc myself) that I have talked to that are up for it... I'm willing to bet that PB,EH,DrG, & KK are in... Gonna have to call Cooter out too..
and of course some of you other bean chuckers
Could do this with at least 8 participants.. if everyone chipped in an entry fee we could have prizes..
Think about it~

Sheckster said:

Attn: Hawaii Growers....
I was thinking since we have so many talented growers on this thread, that we should finally do some kind end-of-the long season harvest cup!!
It's 2013... and since 13 is significant in Marijuana folklore.. as M is the 13th letter of the alphabet,
it's no better time than to have our 1st annual ####### cup Someone think of a good name

I think sometime during the month of October... obviously we will never discuss the actual date here.
But we can post details of the event here afterwards- & post photos of the winning entries etc.

We should do it somewhere on the Big Island.. (ya we got more folks here now ) We have tons of great parks..
Possibly do a 2 day event where we camp.. cause you know those city boys from Oahu like Cooter are gonna want to come too

We can agree to rules as a community:
I would suggest-
Hawaiian-grown only to start.. (imagine if stuffs got legalized here, this could be bigger than HT cannabis cup... )
Maybe 3 categories.. Sativa/Sativa Dom, Indica/Indica Dom, Hawaiian Heritage (ex. kona gold, puna budder, maui wowie etc.)
Judges= all the participants
Entries will be only marked with the category(ex. S-3) and a sequential number so nobody will have an advantage..
we can figure out some kind of rating system.. ie 1-10, Aroma, Flavor, High

As far as participants go.. I would have to insist that you can have at least 2 (if not more) people on this Hawaii Growers thread that have met you and can vouch for you...
I hope I don't have to explain the rationale behind that... you can submit anon entries on behalf of friends who cannot or will not attend
I've already got 3-4 participants (inc myself) that I have talked to that are up for it... I'm willing to bet that PB,EH,DrG, & KK are in... Gonna have to call Cooter out too..
and of course some of you other bean chuckers
Could do this with at least 8 participants.. if everyone chipped in an entry fee we could have prizes..
Think about it~

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Dude I'm in to it for the comradery alone! I'm not much a contest goer, but I'll submit an entry for the spirit of the event. Count me in! If the contest never manifests, I'm still coming over to visit you!

Is this gonna be restricted to outdoor grows only?

808killahz said:

Is this gonna be restricted to outdoor grows only?

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No restrictions as long as it's grown here...
Someone had asked me about organic vs inorganic too..
you figure there are advantages to growing different ways.. but many will argue growing outdoor organically will yield the best tasting and aromatic blends


Hey I want this to be a community decision amongst the regular folks here....
I consider myself a member of the community so I'm putting an idea up for discussion..
Right now is a good time to ponder doing something like this.. while folks are prepping for their upcoming long-season grows...

I want this to be a friendly competition and I believe it will bring out the best in everyone's growing skills.
It will be a good opportunity to exchange genetics and learn from each other too..

We've had some good get-togethers on Oahu and folks have met up in smaller groups all over.
but it would be nice to take it to the next level
I think a friendly competition would lead to getting a good group together...
Main thing is that everyone's privacy and anonymity is the #1 priority..
Don't plan on bringing your pals

I figure we would have to make a decision in August... straw count
we might all get too irie this summer and forget all about it...
just wanted to throw it out there now since folks are still shopping for beans as planting time approaches

I think this is an awesome idea. The wife and i have been wanting to go back to the big island (wife grew up there and i was born there) for a while now and this is the perfect excuse to do it. Lol.

Hey any news on HB150. Saw on hawaii news now earlier today that they were voting on it in the House today.

Hawaii Lawmakers to Debate Marijuana Legalization Friday...









HONOLULU, HI — Members of Hawaii’s House Judicary Committee will hear testimony Friday regarding House Bill 699, one of two bills filed this year that seek to legalize the commercial production, sale, and use of cannabis by those persons age 21 or older.
[UPDATE]: This hearing has been postponed until Friday, February 7, 2013 at 2:00 pm.

House Bill 699 has been scheduled for a hearing before the House Judiciary Committee on Friday, February 1st at 11am.
House Bill 699, The Personal Use of Marijuana Act, would legalize the possession of up to an ounce or less of marijuana and the private cultivation of a limited number of marijuana plants for adults 21 years of age and older.
HB 699 would also allow for the commercial cultivation and sale of marijuana.
The bill would regulate marijuana in a manner similar to alcohol by amending Chapter 329 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes.
The initiative does not change existing laws regarding driving under the influence of marijuana or the ability of employers to maintain their current employment policies. It also preserves the rights and responsibilities of patients and caregivers under Hawaii’s medical marijuana law.
“Most Hawaii voters recognize that marijuana prohibition has been just as ineffective and problematic as alcohol prohibition,” said Pam Lichty, president of the Honolulu-based Drug Policy Action Group. “By regulating and taxing marijuana like alcohol, our state can control its production and sale, generate millions of dollars in new tax revenue and savings, and allow law enforcement officials to focus on serious crimes.”
Polling conducted in January of 2013 by the ACLU of Hawaii reported that 57% of Hawaiian voters believe that marijuana should be “taxed, regulated, and legalized for adults.”
Only 39% of statewide voters were oppose legalization.
House Chairman, Rep. Joseph Souki, is sponsoring both measures. The other legalization bill is House Bill 150.
Hawaii is one of a growing number of states where lawmakers are considering full cannabis legalization. To date, lawmakers in five other states - Maine, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont - have either pre-filed or introduced legislation to legalize marijuana consumption for adults.

http://www.thedailychronic.net/2013/15193/hawaii-lawmakers-to-debate-marijuana-legalization-friday/

808killahz said:

Hey any news on HB150. Saw on hawaii news now earlier today that they were voting on it in the House today.

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The jackass of a chairman killed the bill because he said it would not have enough votes to pass the house. whatever the fuck that means? I dont get it, they didn't even vote and the article says "Key lawmakers in the Democratic-controlled House supported the measure, including the speaker and the majority leader." The fuck kinda bullshit excuse is that?

808killahz said:

Hey any news on HB150. Saw on hawaii news now earlier today that they were voting on it in the House today.

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It's a little confusing to me. HB150 and HB699 are basically the same bill. HB150 has not had a hearing scheduled yet while HB699 has had 3 hearings already. The measure has been "deferred" 3 times. Here is a "copy-paste" of the .gov website for HB699

Sort by Date Status Text
1/22/2013 H Pending introduction.
1/24/2013 H Introduced and Passed First Reading
1/24/2013 H Referred to JUD, FIN, referral sheet 4
1/29/2013 H Bill scheduled to be heard by JUD on Friday, 02-01-13 2:00PM in House conference room 325.
2/1/2013 H The committee(s) on JUD recommend(s) that the measure be deferred until 02-07-13.
2/4/2013 H Bill scheduled for decision making on Thursday, 02-07-13 2:00PM in conference room 325.
2/7/2013 H The committee(s) on JUD recommend(s) that the measure be deferred until 02-12-13 at 2:00PM.
2/8/2013 H Bill scheduled for decision making on Tuesday, 02-12-13 2:00PM in conference room 325.
2/12/2013 H The committee(s) on JUD recommend(s) that the measure be deferred.

It looks like HB667 (higher plant count, more meds, patient privacy, etc.) is moving along quite nicely. Although I do not know what the amendments are.



Also HB668 (Transfers departmental jurisdiction of the medical marijuana laws from the Department of Public Safety (DPS) to the Department of Health and requires DPS to assist with the transfer)