Heathly use of a Vaporizer

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johnexp

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hello, iv been using a vaporizer for about 3months now. its fantastic. I own an extreme vaporizer and I use the bag everyday.

I was just reading up somewhere and read stuff about temps you should burn at etc, Just wanting to know if I'm doing it all right? Is it really healthy even if I use it multiple times a day?

Usually what I do is, I chop up about half a gram of pot. put it in the bowl. let it heat for about 10mins usually, meaning i just leave it in the bowl, while it sits on the temp i set it at. no fan on.

I always burn the first bag at 180degrees. I fill it all the way up til it can't really grow any more.
Now I can put it into the chop bowl again and it will be a browny colour but still green in alot of it.
I usually just leave it in there and have a 2nd bag off it. This time letting it burn at 200degrees.
By this bag, im smashed and all is good but I still notice its a brown colour and _sometimes_ theres bits of green still left. Not much though... and I always do it again with that stuff, I burn the 3rd bag at 230degrees, it doesn't taste all that well, the freshness is all gone definatly. I have the 3rd bag later on and chop up more green, let it heat and go off somewhere, come back do it all over.

So I get all up 3 full bags of vapor out of half a gram of pot. and i get really really baked.

I wondering is it healthy if I did this for a long time, even when using a vaporizer and should I be really getting 3 bags out of my chop.
Im left with pretty much burned pot. its dark brown/black. I just thought it was a waste to chuck it away while it still had green in it.

edit: and also, I have given some of this black stuff to a mate, it was dry, he was stressn LOL. he told me it got him stoned, not very but it still had something
any thoughts???
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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you know, ive been smoking a long time, and to this day have only smoked a vape less than a handful of times. i still dont know much about the whole thing and have been seriously considering getting one.

would love to see some thoughts and details on this
 
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johnexp

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KlosetKing said:
you know, ive been smoking a long time, and to this day have only smoked a vape less than a handful of times. i still dont know much about the whole thing and have been seriously considering getting one.

would love to see some thoughts and details on this
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ok dude, theyre fucking wikid.

i used to smoke bongs all the time, flat, with dirty tabacco mixed with it (im in australia, it was pretty much normal to do it) i dont even smoke tabacco so it was just terrible taste for me.

i hated how the water would splash up, or the dirty bongs (home made ones, with a garden hose and shit.) it was fucked going over peoples places smoking from their dirty bong when every yobos mouth has been on it.
I only had 1 glass bong in my life and i broke it cleaning it.

ever since i got this vape its been great. the taste is so great. just relaxing pulling a bag works great, and its straight pot which was a change for me, its barely harsh unless u turn the temp up. first time using it i remember burning 1st bag at like 210degrees, holy shit, took me a long time to even finish the bag. it rips ya.

When i first got one, i bought a cheap one for 80$, it was a glass dome one with a whip. it was absolutly terrible, sure it would get you high, but barely. I was very disappointed in it so i read up on it and the real best way to use a vaporizer is with the bag effect, like a volcano. I bought an alternate to the volcano, the extreme vaporizer.
it is an all in one, whip/bag action. ive only used the whip a few times, not really my style i rkn. i love the bag effect, once you truely use one and not use a bong for a few days you wont even go back to smoking. its great, you load it up with vapor, take it off. you can then walk around the whole house, or whereever with the bag, inhaling great tasting vapor that is healthy i think.

1 bag will get you high, 2 bags gets u as high as having a few bongs. i havnt used a bong since i got it. about 3 months.

i love it
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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yep my 2ft Phire (Bahamut) gets a lot of use these days, especially when iam out and burning the black shit. curious as to what side-effects vapes do have. i know for sure its better than smoking, but is there really NO negative side-effects? i mean it really doesnt do ANYTHING to your lungs? it just seems to good to be true you know
 
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johnexp

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ahh, thats the question ^/^

i cant even find anything saying there are negative effects, besides maybe a low quality vaporizer or plastic being used.
 
MacGuyver4.2.0

MacGuyver4.2.0

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As with ANY high quality vape, if you have smoke, you just burned your green. Vapes are meant to extract the essential oils out , not burn them and get smoke. You can do that with a pipe or bong. I have used a Vapor Brothers vape for quite a few years now, and prefer it over any other method. Only downside is if your bud is too dry(same as for a joint or pipe) You *have* to have some moisture left in the bud in order to get good vaporization. We even flavor some of our med hits with lavender, spearmint or mint leaves on top of the whip bowl. Makes a real smooth tasting relaxing hit as well. ;)
 
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johnexp

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MacGuyver4.2.0 said:
As with ANY high quality vape, if you have smoke, you just burned your green. Vapes are meant to extract the essential oils out , not burn them and get smoke. You can do that with a pipe or bong. I have used a Vapor Brothers vape for quite a few years now, and prefer it over any other method. Only downside is if your bud is too dry(same as for a joint or pipe) You *have* to have some moisture left in the bud in order to get good vaporization. We even flavor some of our med hits with lavender, spearmint or mint leaves on top of the whip bowl. Makes a real smooth tasting relaxing hit as well. ;)
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so are you saying im burning my weed on the 3rd bag. I was just under the impression that if theres still green, it would still have thc in it and thus not doing another bag would be wasting it.

and I never thought of it as smoke? I thought it would just be vapor as its not exactly as thick as smoke is...

also the 3rd bag still even gives me a decent hit even if i came back to it 3 hours later not high
 
MacGuyver4.2.0

MacGuyver4.2.0

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Vapor will condense and settle as it cools. Smoke is NOT laden with moisture (smoke is by product of combustion) and it will NOT condense quickly or settle as easy. Sorry, but it sounds like you have bags of smoke. Most people who have Volcanos or others with collection bags simply do not know *how* to vape properly I'm afraid. Some veteran vape users on this site have provided input on the topic here:

https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/25229-proper-way-use-vaporizer.html
 
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johnexp

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well, I would think if it was smoke, wouldn't it taste different? like all that plant matter buring along with the THC?
Tastes like vapor to me, when you smoke the left over stuff in a bong it has a smooth taste to it and must still have a little bit of thc in it since 2 people have used my leftovers from a bong and said it worked fine.


the link u gave me doesn't really help at all. only one reference really on how they use it with the bags and they claim to get 10-12 bags out of a full session... wtf... working it out they say they burn it at 190 and work it up to 210... i go from 180-200-230, 3 bags... i dont see how this stuff could be smoke :/

i thought all a vaporizer does is get to a high enough temperature to "evaporate" the THC in weed but it still creates smoke. But it is a different kind of smoke that is much easier and healthier on the lungs which is actually vapor, it isn't thick like smoke, smells different, tastes different and disappears quickly. I know i can make this thing do a 1st bag, i could burn it at 200degreesC and the thing would be like a huge white cloud trapped in it, u smoke it, u can see alot of vapor exhaling and it disappears in seconds. i know this because i could smoke it in my room with my grandma sitting outside my window, i could blow it in the room and it would disappear b4 it could even reach the window. it was so ninja like. but in a stoner way. you know. but seriously, i could make this thing do 1st bag, huge cloud of visable vapor and it would still have green left in the session. its not smoke. burning it at 180 gives it a little bit of visabiliy, burning at 200 gives it a little more, 3rd prob gives it the most, what I thought i was doing was on the 3rd, id just burn it at a high up temp because it will evaporate what THC is left in it.
 
MacGuyver4.2.0

MacGuyver4.2.0

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Most of the Volcanos users and others are *not* true med users but simply stoners looking for something other than a bong to pass around at parties.

One of the main benefits of using a good quality vape is that you do NOT have to use alot of bud, actually alot less than you would with a pipe or bong.

Here's the Vape 101 for anyone who wants to learn:

Heated air turns the cannabinoids(active ingredients) into a gas. In this process none of the vegetable matter is burned. The boiling point of THC is much lower than that of the toxins so this means you can get the THC in form of vapor, while leaving the toxins with the veggies.

http://www.maps.org/mmj/Gieringer-vaporizer.pdf

A site with video by a professor illustrating proper vape use:
http://www.isseiproductions.com/demoD11_Vaporizers101a.html
 
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johnexp

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yeah, ive seen that video.

since this week, ive tried a different method which is working fine.

i now get 4 bags out of half a gram or less (1 bowl session).

i burn at 180 degrees carrying onto 190 then 200 then lastly 210.

i let the weed heat for 10mins before i start filling the bag with vapor.

i believe im doing it fine now after what I've read on other sites. I may have been a bit overkill on the last 230degree bag which is why it turns it to black. burning the 4th bag at 210 now just makes it a dark brown and no real black colour.

im using a quality vaporizer (extreme vaporizer)
i have found no evidence that using a vaporizer in the long term or short can cause any side effects at all. I havent found any so I'm going to guess no one really knows or there isn't.
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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I use a Volcano Digital, in F I go from 365F, to 375F, to 382F, and on the last bowl 392F...


Kind of what I figured out to get the full spectrum of cannabinoids, From what I recall its like THC vaporizes as 365, where CDN at like 378ish, and CBD at 392... I might have had the CBD & CBN mixed up though
 
XxHazexX

XxHazexX

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johnexp said:
hello, iv been using a vaporizer for about 3months now. its fantastic. I own an extreme vaporizer and I use the bag everyday.

I was just reading up somewhere and read stuff about temps you should burn at etc, Just wanting to know if I'm doing it all right? Is it really healthy even if I use it multiple times a day?

Usually what I do is, I chop up about half a gram of pot. put it in the bowl. let it heat for about 10mins usually, meaning i just leave it in the bowl, while it sits on the temp i set it at. no fan on.

I always burn the first bag at 180degrees. I fill it all the way up til it can't really grow any more.
Now I can put it into the chop bowl again and it will be a browny colour but still green in alot of it.
I usually just leave it in there and have a 2nd bag off it. This time letting it burn at 200degrees.
By this bag, im smashed and all is good but I still notice its a brown colour and _sometimes_ theres bits of green still left. Not much though... and I always do it again with that stuff, I burn the 3rd bag at 230degrees, it doesn't taste all that well, the freshness is all gone definatly. I have the 3rd bag later on and chop up more green, let it heat and go off somewhere, come back do it all over.

So I get all up 3 full bags of vapor out of half a gram of pot. and i get really really baked.

I wondering is it healthy if I did this for a long time, even when using a vaporizer and should I be really getting 3 bags out of my chop.
Im left with pretty much burned pot. its dark brown/black. I just thought it was a waste to chuck it away while it still had green in it.

edit: and also, I have given some of this black stuff to a mate, it was dry, he was stressn LOL. he told me it got him stoned, not very but it still had something
any thoughts???
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stop roasting your weed and smoke it.but ive always wondered after you've released all the THc's what do you do with the left over??
 
ColoradoLove

ColoradoLove

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350-360 degrees

5 volcano bags off about a bowls worth, and the bud is still green when I'm done - minimal browning, if any

You can use the "used" pot for baking, works really well
 
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jsgamber

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Save your spent weed including any stems (even the dark shit)!!

I collect in a small mason jar and crush it into a powder as I go. When it get's half full (I'm not that patient) I'll pour in 91% alcohol (from CVS) and shake it up for about an hour and strain it through a brown coffee filter. I put the weed back in the jar and repeat one more time (the alcohol does not get nearly as cloudy. I'll do one final filter into a flat glass dish and set the dish in a pan of simmering water until all the alcohol (and the 9% distilled water) evaporates. Then I start adding butter (half a stick at first) until I get a nice yellow green color. I then pour everything into a small glass container and viola Cannabutter in about 2 1/2 hours.

Sometimes I make popcorn right away and butter it with my new mixture....wheeee!

I use a standard glass loaf pan and I get a nice thick layer of hash oil on the bottom. That's why your friends still get high on your spent weed! Next time invite them over for popcorn. It will taste MUCH better and the high will start after about 30 to 45 minutes and it's usually a great body high!

peace
 
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johnexp

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XxHazexX said:
stop roasting your weed and smoke it.but ive always wondered after you've released all the THc's what do you do with the left over??
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im not roasting my weed you twat.

i resell the leftovers, i smoke for free.

thanks Sr. Verde and ColoradoLove. pretty much same results as me cept mine is degrees Celsius im guessing yours is degrees Fahrenheit.
 
monsoon

monsoon

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johnexp said:
i resell the leftovers, i smoke for free.
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I can't believe you can find people to buy your vaped weed hahahaha

The leftovers are great for baking. One time, my friend packed up about 20 gel caps with vaped weed and eating 15 of them had me blasted for the entire day. (There was about .33g - .5g dry vaped weed in each cap)
 
poplars

poplars

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LOL sorry but you can't get blasted from dry bud in a capsul . . . thats hilarious.

have fun with that, though.

but as far as this thread goes, I vape 100% of the time, love my herbalaire :D
 
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