Heisenbeans Genetics

Bakersfield said:

With your reputation of being a complete asshole on this forum, your going to be devoured if you don't get this shit right, the first time.

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True statement. If it's a fail, it'll be a feeding frenzy. But you have to admit, Heisenhomie has tightened up a bit on the a$$hole side. All this transparency w/ vids and such, and passing out a bunch of freebies before making uno dinero is, imo, just as you said, brofessor.....

Bakersfield said:

I think your on the right track.

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Bakersfield said:

I think your on the right track.
I commend you on your effort to garner hype towards your brand, but until you produce seed and test or untest your gear to the masses, your a nobody. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm no dick rider either. So we'll all see first hand how well your pollen killing formula works, once you get some beans released and grown.
With your reputation of being a complete asshole on this forum, your going to be devoured if you don't get this shit right, the first time.

I for one plan to grow some of your gear out and I'll be fair if it rocks or if it blows.
On another note:
Can you read the old Gorilla Bubble thread? Is there special "paid advertiser" privileges that let you read the Gorilla Bubble thread?
Well, I was involved in that thread and the herm issue was brought up, but by no means, was that the reason why that thread was shut down.

BTW, Gorilla Bubble has been tested at a higher THC % than Gorilla Glue #4.

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Homophobia and racist rants closed that thread, or something like that...

thenotsoesoteric said:

Homophobia and racist rants closed that thread, or something like that...

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Something like this, too:

antonioverde said: ↑
If your jimmies got rustled over a question good luck in this business. ....... you seem to get defensive quickly and take information sharing as a hit to your ego.

Here's some knowledge for you.

Become chill. Positive vibes only.

Quit being so defensive

Quit acting holier than thou when answering people.

Transparency is good but not when your grow has issues, even minor ones. Clean up before rolling camera. Don't come across like a bbad ass or douche bag. So macho in Vids. Remember some day you're gonna have accountants or librarians coming across your site wanting to order their first bean, and they liked Heisenberg so they want to buy from u. Your internet persona should be nice guy not meathead. Nice sells, meathead holds you back and counters your hard work.

Try drying whole plant for long slow dry. Dark,cool, longer dry. Smoother smoke.

Keep up the ambition and willingness to invest. U clearly have the desire to be the best.

I had the same talk with my friend E from dungeons vault like 5 years ago. He used to be a dick. Macho ego guy on forums.

Now he's living your dream.

I look forward to seeing your hard work pay off. You have slot of good ideas, and proper views on transparency etc. Don't ruin all that by being a dick.

You're welcome.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Homophobia and racist rants closed that thread, or something like that...

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Honestly, I don't remember the racist rants, but there was some derogatory sexual orientation terms being thrown around by Antonio.
If you say it, you have to own it.

I'll let someone else finish the story.

You guys trying to ruin heisen by telling him to chill out like they do Lahey on Trailer Park Boys with the liquor.

antonioverde said:

These cats have a business based on mixing pollen in water to pollinate..

Look up the firman pollen website look at their precision pollenation instructions...

Water kills pollen is stoner math.
In fact an old school method from old school breeders is to mix pollen in a jar with water then applying it to moms for precision pollination.

Fuck do I know we got canna jesus on deck? Thats your freebie for today... If you put your ego away you might learn some shit from all these old timers scratching their head going wtf is this guy doing.

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That's how my dad pollinated. He put pollen in a water bottle sprayer. And spray the fuck outta buds and hairs. I can remember setting in elementary class when we did the water kills pollen shit. I just thought to myself. Man my dad is jesus. Bc in school water kills pollen. In my dads grow room full of plants that I had jo idea what they were. He was doing the samething and making seeds. It was weird. But until i went to through school, and college. I never understood why they taught that us that. Bc it's not true. It does decrease viability. But not 100% as when it dries it made seeds in my dads flowers. I've never done it mix in water. I've done it mixed in flour to spread it thinner.

antonioverde said:

I rolled in here to see if you had legit fems I might cop but Id have just as much reliability that what im getting sold is what it is supposed to be as i would from bag seed.

I drop once or twice a year for the homies so i could care less about your misdirection on the gb tip bro. Stop selling lies like you told gu lol

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Then move along bro. No hard feelings

Bakersfield said:

Honestly, I don't remember the racist rants, but there was some derogatory sexual orientation terms being thrown around by Antonio.
If you say it, you have to own it.

I'll let someone else finish the story.

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I do remember the homophobic "humor" but the racist thing I may have confused with the old GGG thread.

Mainly I'm just here because the action.

whytewidow said:

That's how my dad pollinated. He put pollen in a water bottle sprayer. And spray the fuck outta buds and hairs. I can remember setting in elementary class when we did the water kills pollen shit. I just thought to myself. Man my dad is jesus. Bc in school water kills pollen. In my dads grow room full of plants that I had jo idea what they were. He was doing the samething and making seeds. It was weird. But until i went to through school, and college. I never understood why they taught that us that. Bc it's not true. It does decrease viability. But 100% as when it dries it made seeds in my dads flowers. I've never done it mix in water. I've done it mixed in flour to spread it thinner.

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Yup. And considering each banana can produce over 30k pollen grains... Well anyone who cares can do the math.
I brought it up to see if the shit was gonna be worth buying. Just like if i take a clone i want to be sure its what it is. You cant help somebody that considers himself above everyone else.

that's the name of the game here... grow the beans he sends and give them an honest review. if they don't turn out to be what i expected or what i'm looking for i will move on. if they turn out good, then great i'll buy some more.

i actually thought about the cross-pollination issue and decided that everything in the rooms is a clone-only elite, so at worst i will be growing some random elite cross haha.

antonioverde said:

Yup. And considering each banana can produce over 30k pollen grains... Well anyone who cares can do the math.
I brought it up to see if the shit was gonna be worth buying. Just like if i take a clone i want to be sure its what it is. You cant help somebody that considers himself above everyone else.

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Dude like ten other people already brought this up. If people read through the thread they would see that. So you did nothing but troll. Ironic

Goats22 said:

that's the name of the game here... grow the beans he sends and give them an honest review. if they don't turn out to be what i expected or what i'm looking for i will move on. if they turn out good, then great i'll buy some more.

i actually thought about the cross-pollination issue and decided that everything in the rooms is a clone-only elite, so at worst i will be growing some random elite cross haha.

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My thoughts exactly.

Edit: itd be a shame if I thought I was popping mac1 x wedding cake. And ended up with black bananas × wedding cake. Idgaf jus send me beans already @Heisenbeans lol

Same shit as taking one good cut to make beans and list them for sale under every catchy name out each year. Who cares its fire?

Goats22 said:

i actually thought about the cross-pollination issue and decided that everything in the rooms is a clone-only elite, so at worst i will be growing some random elite cross haha.

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I have a couple packs of Cannarado Tk91 crosses, that I figured would at least produce something decent, considering the stray pollen probably came from some "killer" unknown source, in Rado's love chamber.

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Same shit as taking one good cut to make beans and list them for sale under every catchy name out each year. Who cares its fire?

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don't get me wrong tony, i understand what you're saying for sure. you need to do your best to ensure what you are sending out is what you say it is. i agree as well. i was just speaking for myself and somewhat just making a joke because i know i am interested in most of the cuts he holds.

i know who you are and i know the opinion of you held by a lot of people i respect as growers over on IC. the GB grows were always nice to watch.

heisen has always been straight with me and i wish him success. i am happy to help test his gear out.

when it comes to the pollen convo i am too ignorant to provide an opinion so i am just gonna sit back and read and maybe learn a thing or two from someone.

Bakersfield said:

I have a couple packs of Cannarado Tk91 crosses, that I figured would at least produce something decent, considering the stray pollen probably came from some "killer" unknown source, in Rado's love chamber.

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Eeewwww TK91 makes the pants tight.... maybe bc I'm fat and over weight. But I love tk91 too. Lol

Ya know coming up im sure all of us were helped a long by others and we've all learned from each other and others mistakes. Tom Hill and others helped guide me as a breeder and countless others on grow skills.
How many disaster breeders have we all seen through the years? I started out kinda like heisen except my goal was to be the anti rez dog lol.
Hes got the motivation, skills, gumption and decent genetics to make good seeds but that attitude of im the best and i got the best trust me has never gone over well in our community and anyone who has been around knows its a disaster waiting to happen. If youre gonna sell seeds be legit, make sure you deliver what you promise and dont cut corners.
No breeder worth anything is running a room full of pollen dropping plants together. You simply cant guarantee shit that way. Then you are just doing a different version of what he complained about gu doing.
You aint short on money bro. Do it right. Frame up little private rooms for them dudes with their own little lights or get some small tents. Thats the easy fix to one hole in your game. Wether you want to admit it or not anybody thats been around and knows anything is gonna call that contamination out.
Just like you did gu for his perceived shortcomings.

The harder fix is that im so great trust me shit.

We got plenty of shitty breeders weve all been gotten by through the years. You got a chance to fix that shit now or be the next shitty breeder.

antonioverde said:

We got plenty of shitty breeders weve all been gotten by through the years. You got a chance to fix that shit now or be the next shitty breeder.

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But if that happened, he could always change his handle to HeisenBurbuja, and carry on as if it never happened, eh antonio?