Heisenbeans Genetics

Idk if ogr ever claimed he found fire og. But if you can still look at the threads in his forum. If memory serves I believe would answer questions as if it (fire og) was a different strain or pheno of og kush. So that is some what misleading.
Now having said that I certainly don’t condemn ogr or consider him a con.
I always thought he put out fire ass genetics. I was lucky enough to have a few of his offerings.
And back then you had to be damn fast cuz whenever there was a ogr or topdawg drop the bins would be sold out within 5 minutes at a place that’s not held in good regard now lol.
But at the time it was the only place I knew of to get ogr & topdawg.
Anyway it would hsve been nice if he just said this is just a cut of og kush I decided to call it fire og kush as to differentiate my breedings & crosses from others. Something along those lines i mean why not it wouldn’t have hurt his sales all that much cuz most all of his shit was very good.

barneyfife said:

Idk if ogr ever claimed he found fire og. But if you can still look at the threads in his forum. If memory serves I believe would answer questions as if it (fire og) was a different strain or pheno of og kush. So that is some what misleading.
Now having said that I certainly don’t condemn ogr or consider him a con.
I always thought he put out fire ass genetics. I was lucky enough to have a few of his offerings.
And back then you had to be damn fast cuz whenever there was a ogr or topdawg drop the bins would be sold out within 5 minutes at a place that’s not held in good regard now lol.
But at the time it was the only place I knew of to get ogr & topdawg.
Anyway it would hsve been nice if he just said this is just a cut of og kush I decided to call it fire og kush as to differentiate my breedings & crosses from others. Something along those lines i mean why not it wouldn’t have hurt his sales all that much cuz most all of his shit was very good.

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Raskal's og cut was being referred to as 'fire' by him on forums before I had ever seen an ograskal seed drop, long before wifi.

I agree, I don't recall him ever claiming he found that cut (could be wrong) was my impression it was another og kush cut that he held tightly/exclusively (with exception to who he got it from) and was discernible from other og as it was the 'fire' cut.

Thing is, he wasn't breeding to my knowledge when the cut was being referred to as 'fire' og so I'm not sure who he was misleading exactly? To be mislead others would have to assume it was something it was not, nothing demonstrates this intent.

CannaBruh said:

Raskal's og cut was being referred to as 'fire' by him on forums before I had ever seen an ograskal seed drop, long before wifi.

I agree, I don't recall him ever claiming he found that cut (could be wrong) was my impression it was another og kush cut that he held tightly/exclusively (with exception to who he got it from) and was discernible from other og as it was the 'fire' cut.

Thing is, he wasn't breeding to my knowledge when the cut was being referred to as 'fire' og so I'm not sure who he was misleading exactly? To be mislead others would have to assume it was something it was not, nothing demonstrates this intent.

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He flat out said it was og kush.the same kush that was getting handed out. He just renamed it cause it was the best cut he had.
Someone gave him a clone only called OG kush.

I'm sure at the time he didnt realize he would be using the same cut alot of other people were using to make seeds.

Like I said if someone gave me wedding cake and I renamed it to fire cake it would still be wedding cake. I'll just change the name so I have something different but in reality his was the same kush cut coming out of florida.

I watched him arguing with koma and it was a WTF moment. You just had to be there.

I didn't see anyone talking down about Raskal's growing ability.

Like I said if someone gave me wedding cake and I renamed it to fire cake it would still be wedding cake. I'll just change the name so I have something different but in reality his was the same kush cut coming out of florida.

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Except this isn't 'exactly' what you said.

Heisenbeans said:

Did you hear about OGR saying he renamed OG kush to fire OG. Said he got the cut from Florida and ut was dankest one he had in his room so he just renamed it.

What do you think about that. I was watching the video on IG and heard it come right out of his mouth. Be like me renaming wedding cake to fire cake or some shit and pretending like I found it.

I'm sure that happens alot more than we think.

I see strains all the time that look identical to other stuff with different names.

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^ see underlined, what are the implications of what it is you're saying when making this comparison?

What does that mean, pretending like I found it? Are you saying Ograskal did this? If yes, state your case, if no why make this comparison if not for defamatory reasons? Perhaps be more careful communicating as a seed vendor or your words might be misconstrued to being something that wasn't intended.

Nobody else seemed to care enough to speak up about it over the last what.. 10+ years ? @heisen wow I was going to tag you but I'm not sure even which one of the several to chose from. Not a slight, an observation.

CannaBruh said:

Except this isn't 'exactly' what you said.



^ see underlined, what are the implications of what it is you're saying when making this comparison?

What does that mean, pretending like I found it? Are you saying Ograskal did this? If yes, state your case, if no why make this comparison if not for defamatory reasons? Perhaps be more careful communicating as a seed vendor or your words might be misconstrued to being something that wasn't intended.

Nobody else seemed to care enough to speak up about it over the last what.. 10+ years ? @heisen wow I was going to tag you but I'm not sure even which one of the several to chose from. Not a slight, an observation.

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Thanks for pointing out that slight detail. Not even gonna explain cause everytime I log in this motherfuker I'm on trial.Your right man you got me. You win. Congrats.

For now on I'm just gonna answer questions pertaining to heisenbeans. Now I see why all the other breeders stay off these forums.

IG someone makes a goofy statement you just ignore em and go on down the line. Here someone has a problem with everything.

I asked someone a simple question that turned into a shit show. I got a line of haters just waiting to post links,pick apart everything I type, all the way back from the GP thread and being a moderator on THC farmer.

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Except this isn't 'exactly' what you said.



^ see underlined, what are the implications of what it is you're saying when making this comparison?

What does that mean, pretending like I found it? Are you saying Ograskal did this? If yes, state your case, if no why make this comparison if not for defamatory reasons? Perhaps be more careful communicating as a seed vendor or your words might be misconstrued to being something that wasn't intended.

Nobody else seemed to care enough to speak up about it over the last what.. 10+ years ? @heisen wow I was going to tag you but I'm not sure even which one of the several to chose from. Not a slight, an observation.

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Because the video was just made 4 days ago dummy for fuks sake. Did you not hear me that OG raskal went live on IG with koma and they was arguing back and forth about the history of the white and fire OG and ogr admitted it was a clone that he was gifted and he renamed it.

Not some shit he sifted through but a cut of OG kush that he RENAMED to fire OG.

But you got.me man. I give up. Congrats

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Except this isn't 'exactly' what you said.



^ see underlined, what are the implications of what it is you're saying when making this comparison?

What does that mean, pretending like I found it? Are you saying Ograskal did this? If yes, state your case, if no why make this comparison if not for defamatory reasons? Perhaps be more careful communicating as a seed vendor or your words might be misconstrued to being something that wasn't intended.

Nobody else seemed to care enough to speak up about it over the last what.. 10+ years ? @heisen wow I was going to tag you but I'm not sure even which one of the several to chose from. Not a slight, an observation.

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It means ogr renamed the cut to something else and acted like it’s something different and special above what it already is to rebrand it as his own. For example, it would be like if I renamed a wedding cake cut to fire cake or some shit.

Stop being thick on purpose fighting over details no one gives a shit about except people who didn’t bother to read the entire thread carefully because those answers you’re looking for are in the thread.

Maybe tag his advertiser account since this is his business thread.

It's simple.

You Heisen implied by comparison that ograskal claimed he found og kush when really he called an og kush cut he received the 'fire' og.

He didn't claim it was something it wasn't. If you disagree cite sources please?

It was a cut of og.

He called it 'fire' og. Nobody who was around at the time he was bringing it out on the forums was confused by it with SFV, Tahoe, Abusive, Ghost, etc etcetera

Years later, when making seeds, nobody was confused with what they were buying.

It was fire og the cut ograskal held whether it was the same as some other og is irrelevant, you could trace back to birth the fire cut being the one raskal held.

This is easy guys.

Take notes if you're going to run a seed company, some forum goer might come on here 10 years down the line and fling some ridiculous comparison that is misconstrued by a passerby as an insult when perhaps that wasn't the intent. However, it is what it is.

Well heisen I think the line of haters comes with the package. Let’s face it you can’t make everyone happy. And their are some that just aren’t going to be happy no matter what you do.
I’m very excited & can’t wait to get growing your seeds as I’m sure many others are.
Do you have pics of any of the other strains in flower that will be on the 1st drop?
Would love to see them.
What do you think of the blackberry banana og? Have any pics of her?

barneyfife said:

Well heisen I think the line of haters comes with the package. Let’s face it you can’t make everyone happy. And their are some that just aren’t going to be happy no matter what you do.
I’m very excited & can’t wait to get growing your seeds as I’m sure many others are.
Do you have pics of any of the other strains in flower that will be on the 1st drop?
Would love to see them.
What do you think of the blackberry banana og? Have any pics of her?

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I have pics of her but there from the guy I got her from. I'll be posting pics in the next couple weeks.

Out of what you have coming in the 1st drop which is your personal favorite to smoke?

Also how well does adub yield?

barneyfife said:

Out of what you have coming in the 1st drop which is your personal favorite to smoke?

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Wedding cake so far.

GreenHighlander said:

I hear the "Widow" cut of CnC from Greenpoint is the next fire OG.

Cheers

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The only thing I hear is balls bouncing against your chin. Sounding like sloppy mac n cheese.

GreenHighlander said:

Some advice for any seed company is not to ban people from their thread for simply speaking the truth.
I am not saying Heisen has done this. But others sure have on these forums and it stinks of scammers. Let even the haters hate.
Imagine running a "seed company" and having to try and delete and ban away the never ending shitty reviews and legit customer feedback.
You don;t wanna be like Gu right?

Cheers

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If you havent noticed no one gives a single flying fuck about your advice. It's about as good as your grows. Straight shit..

You should just stick to growing garbage strains like orgi and Amos other stupid garbage. That's right up your alley. Some second hand GPS shit..

whytewidow said:

If you havent noticed no one gives a single flying fuck about your advice. It's about as good as your grows. Straight shit..

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LOL How is that 9 year old girl with the seizures doing? You know the one you told everyone you bought GPS seeds for lol Got anymore good cry stories to copy and paste and send breeders begging for seeds? Or was that just a one time thing?
Just cause you have the new fire OG you think you are such hot shit.... hahahaha

Cheers

GreenHighlander said:

LOL How is that 9 year old girl with the seizures doing? You know the one you told everyone you bought GPS seeds for lol Got anymore good cry stories to copy and paste and send breeders begging for seeds? Or was that just a one time thing?
Just cause you have the new fire OG you think you are such hot shit.... hahahaha

Cheers

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First off it's a boy. And hes 16 douche bag. Sorry you cant grow well enough that no one give two fuck what you grow. I dont think I'm anyone. Jus someone who grows alot better than your garbage you're a chump and always will be. Grow that orgi. Lmfao. I bet you blew amos for the pack didnt you. While he was dressed up like one of Bruce's ladys. No one wants you any thread except chuckers p. So go back over there. And grow that shit.

Just arrived thank you very much

whytewidow said:

I bet you blew amos for the pack didnt you. While he was dressed up like one of Bruce's ladys.

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"I bet" you got off before you finished typing that.... Didn't you?