++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

Warlock1369

Well-Known Member
No idea on the nutes. And who ever told you that is a moreon. You cant suck nutes thru the plant. But you do need to have the fan going. It replenishes the air. Plants need co2 in the light. So in a tent they will use up the 200-300 ppm of normal air very fast. So that the real reason alway moving the air. Also helps with the temps and humidity.

Ok hellraizer, got your message from the dead thread, to come here and ask questions of ya.....firstly - have you or anyone used growth technology products? Green fuse growth stimulator root/grow/bloom? Or Superdrive?

Secondly, on ventilating my tent. Someone once told me I need to create a partial vacuum so the out take fan is always sucking the nutes through the plant? Any knowledge of this?

I am growing White rhino in 5 gallon bubblers. 4 weeks on and lookin really nice. Any experience of White rhino anyone?
 

whitey51

Member
Awsome set up Warlock. One of the things that I like about Hydroponics is that it makes me feel like some mad scientist! You certainly look like you are applying science in your set up! The guy who told me about the ventilation actually does well at growing, but when he told me how much money he was spending on newts and soil, I did wonder about his suction theory. My ventilation is set off by a thermostat. So the fans run for ten minutes then cut off for ten minutes, it seems. Unless its hot outside then the fans are constantly on. Adding humidity this week so looking forward to the difference that makes.
 

jojodancer10

Well-Known Member
The bigger the plant the bigger the buds Wright? So table v.s buckets? All under a 1000watt light 9 buckets. Or 4x4 table with 15 plants
 

jojodancer10

Well-Known Member
Thats why I love talking to other growers
No BS. I was looking at my mom's and thought about putting her in flowering.
 

drgreentm

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The bigger the plant the bigger the buds Wright? So table v.s buckets? All under a 1000watt light 9 buckets. Or 4x4 table with 15 plants
im running the cap E&G 2 gal system (12 total) in a 4x8 tent under 2 1k's so i do like 6 under a 1k with about a 3-4 week veg. i havent really had a solid run with my 1k's but was averaging around 3 a plant. hoping for 4 at least a plant this run but we will see. imo buckets all the way bro, they are much more handy, i can move the plants wherever i want all by myself and quite quickly. just moving a 4x4 tray around sucks and if you tried to move it for any reason during a grow with 15 plants in it it would be insane.
 

Warlock1369

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Bigger plants don't mean bigger yeild. It's all in the grow. If you are wasting any part( nutes light space and technek) you don't maxamize yeild. I know people with 24" plants that yeild better then others with 5' plants. Why? A 5' plant needs alot of light to brake the canopy. While a 24" will use it all. Also have a guy that only dose 2 plants in a 8x14 room. He's getting almost 3-4 lb a plant. But can only do 2.3 grows a year. But he's happy with that.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
@white hey bro i think your buddy was trying to say you need a vacume in your tent so fresh air brings in co2 that the
Plant can feed on!

As for green fuse i have used it and found house and gardens root execarator to be better!
 

cerberus

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somebody's going DIY.. nice.

i was worried about your wort chiller till i clicked on her, i see a lot of people dumping copper pipes in their rez's.. lol

nice tech site's yo
 

jojodancer10

Well-Known Member
Bigger plants don't mean bigger yeild. It's all in the grow. If you are wasting any part( nutes light space and technek) you don't maxamize yeild. I know people with 24" plants that yeild better then others with 5' plants. Why? A 5' plant needs alot of light to brake the canopy. While a 24" will use it all. Also have a guy that only dose 2 plants in a 8x14 room. He's getting almost 3-4 lb a plant. But can only do 2.3 grows a year. But he's happy with that.
That's what I'm trying to figure out.a friend showed me some musk he bought and the nuggets were big I'm trying to figure how he did it.that tree had to be big.so I'm thinking about putting my mom in flowering a total of 9 mom's in buckets v.s. 15-20 plants on a table in pots.also the other idea is to put a lid on the table with net pots so the roots can be in food just like the buckets.before I do anything I wanted to run it by you Guy's
 

Warlock1369

Well-Known Member
It's all about veg and training. You can make monsters. But then agin if you don't have the light in flower buds don't get that big. Also have a few people that get major nugs but they dubble bud there shit. Take it to week 4 of flower then reveg. Then start all over. Humidity must be no higher then 40% doing this mold will happen otherwise.
 

phillipchristian

New Member
Another item i ordered is a set of wort chiller coils make for a simple way to chill that res :)

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/stainless-steel-immersion-wort-chiller-w-garden-hose-fittings-50-ft.html
Great find with that website Hell. Already ordering a few things. Thanks.

Check these guys out for Worth Coils. They seem to be a little cheaper although they only carry 3/8" coils. Can't imagine you'd need much more then that on a 25' coil. http://www.nybrewsupply.com/wort-chillers.html Website also has some other DIY supplies you might need like rolls of stainless coil and tubing.

I picked up 2 of these a few weeks ago for around $135 total including shipping.


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phillipchristian

New Member
They are great coils. Almost too efficient for nutrient reservoirs. Before I had the t-ball valve about 25% open to control the temps. On these things it's only about 10% open. You have no idea how pissed I was that I bought those Hydro Innovations Cool Coils for like $120 a piece. Those things are like 10' of coil max. Plus I like the worth coils cause you don't have to have any tubing or fittings/connections sitting in the res; only the coil.
 
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