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NedK

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Not exactly a newbie but even when I finished a few years ago was still learning .. looking to buy a new set up a better set up this time as first few grows were with a 1,2 x 2 complete set up bought of net .... this time would like a 2x2x2 tent better lights and shades ballasts and a good extraction fan and intake ?.... would like to try keep elec down and was initially thinking 3 x 600 in a 3 2 tent but wonder if this to much ..... so came the idea of 2x2 tent 2 x600w on light movers??........ or 4x 400w?? .....or any other suggestions pls ... was looking at doing aprox 16?20 cuttings topping and veg for 5/6 weeks? ..... looking to get all this together in next 2 weeks and will need to order some bits in so please any help.. advice... makes ... all appreciated and taken on board .... forgot to say growing in soil .... many thanks Ned. ..... sorry been pointed out to me sizes are in meters tks .......not looking to cut costs but not a pro either.
 
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moondance

moondance

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Hey NedK hw is it going can you let me know if your tent sizes are feet or not, then I could provide you with all kinds of suggestions.
 
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O okay meters cool, yeah that helps bunches man. I personally like to go bare bulb vertical, with 600 watters, I got my best yeilds and results that way. Air flow is by far and large where the money needs to be spent!!!!!!! Veg time is important 5 weeks is a bit long depending on your needs and heights that you can get away with, some plants love topping some do not these days - so know your strains - study anything on them you can f you have not grown them before. The 2 week stretch is real and happens, after the stretch no topping cliping or ruining budsites just saying, it will affect yeilds. I am a little rusty on the net as of now so I hope I helped a little and I will be back on later to answer some more!! MD
 
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A 1000W bulb should cover an 8 x 8 foot room. A 600W bulb should cover a 6 x 6 foot room. I think you are thinking too much lighting, especially this time of year in tents. I would be comfortable using one 1000W bulb in a 2 meter tent and a single 600W bulb in the smaller tent. You will have heat issues and need to have sufficient fan/extraction equipment in place before starting. Also, figure you need 3-4 times as much space for flowering as you do for vegging. So don't count on using the same space for both modes. Off the top of my head I would suggest figuring at least 4 square feet of floor space for each flowering plant.

Good luck, BigSteve.
 
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NedK

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moondance said:
O okay meters cool, yeah that helps bunches man. I personally like to go bare bulb vertical, with 600 watters, I got my best yeilds and results that way. Air flow is by far and large where the money needs to be spent!!!!!!! Veg time is important 5 weeks is a bit long depending on your needs and heights that you can get away with, some plants love topping some do not these days - so know your strains - study anything on them you can f you have not grown them before. The 2 week stretch is real and happens, after the stretch no topping cliping or ruining budsites just saying, it will affect yeilds. I am a little rusty on the net as of now so I hope I helped a little and I will be back on later to answer some more!! MD
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thank you for your time and advice ....
 
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NedK

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bigsteve said:
A 1000W bulb should cover an 8 x 8 foot room. A 600W bulb should cover a 6 x 6 foot room. I think you are thinking too much lighting, especially this time of year in tents. I would be comfortable using one 1000W bulb in a 2 meter tent and a single 600W bulb in the smaller tent. You will have heat issues and need to have sufficient fan/extraction equipment in place before starting. Also, figure you need 3-4 times as much space for flowering as you do for vegging. So don't count on using the same space for both modes. Off the top of my head I would suggest figuring at least 4 square feet of floor space for each flowering plant.

Good luck, BigSteve.
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well steve hows things .... fan kit been looking at 8" £400 and suppose to be very good ... also will have intake all sorted ... lights is where im stuck as was looking at a 3m x2m x2m tent and was gonna stick 3 x 600w in there but wondered was this to much elec use when taking fans and bits into consideration.... so am looking at weather a 2x2 would be better but still lighting is where I would like advice .... light movers??4 x400w? ..... 3x600w? ....
 
moondance

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My choice for the plants would be 3 - 600 watters, great for the plants, plenty of light, little less heat, and slight power savings versus 3000 watts
 
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moondance

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3 600's cover a good bit of ground, bulb ends and sockets dont give you any help but you know that already.
 
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"well steve hows things .... fan kit been looking at 8" £400 and suppose to be very good ... also will have intake all sorted ... lights is where im stuck as was looking at a 3m x2m x2m tent and was gonna stick 3 x 600w in there but wondered was this to much elec use when taking fans and bits into consideration.... so am looking at weather a 2x2 would be better but still lighting is where I would like advice .... light movers??4 x400w? ..... 3x600w? ...."

Once I took a good look at your numbers I can see that you aren't talking about ordinary grow tents. 9 x 6 x 6 feet is humongous. I wouldn't worry too much about the cost of juice as you can turn a profit from every watt used. Your big tent is well suited to support 2 x 600W or 1000W bulbs. Remember you want to have some space left empty so you can maneuver around and service your plants. So I would mount 2 bulbs in the big tent for flowering. Place them so that they slightly overlap penumbras, eh? I would forget the light movers, too. I have never seen them operate well unless in a large commercial set-up.

When I'm setting up a new room I like to lay out as many pots as I hope to have in the room at any one time. If you want to finish 10 at a time set out 10 large pots in the flower room and move them around until you see a pattern that allows for maximum coverage. You may discover that the number you picked may have to be scaled down some. My 8 x 8 flower room has one 1000W bulb and seems to cover it well. I allow for some space around the door (in case a box fan on the floor is needed) and in the corners.

Good luck, BigSteve.
 
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NedK

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bigsteve said:
"well steve hows things .... fan kit been looking at 8" £400 and suppose to be very good ... also will have intake all sorted ... lights is where im stuck as was looking at a 3m x2m x2m tent and was gonna stick 3 x 600w in there but wondered was this to much elec use when taking fans and bits into consideration.... so am looking at weather a 2x2 would be better but still lighting is where I would like advice .... light movers??4 x400w? ..... 3x600w? ...."

Once I took a good look at your numbers I can see that you aren't talking about ordinary grow tents. 9 x 6 x 6 feet is humongous. I wouldn't worry too much about the cost of juice as you can turn a profit from every watt used. Your big tent is well suited to support 2 x 600W or 1000W bulbs. Remember you want to have some space left empty so you can maneuver around and service your plants. So I would mount 2 bulbs in the big tent for flowering. Place them so that they slightly overlap penumbras, eh? I would forget the light movers, too. I have never seen them operate well unless in a large commercial set-up.

When I'm setting up a new room I like to lay out as many pots as I hope to have in the room at any one time. If you want to finish 10 at a time set out 10 large pots in the flower room and move them around until you see a pattern that allows for maximum coverage. You may discover that the number you picked may have to be scaled down some. My 8 x 8 flower room has one 1000W bulb and seems to cover it well. I allow for some space around the door (in case a box fan on the floor is needed) and in the corners.

Good luck, BigSteve.
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cheers steve .... flat out busy at mo get back to ya when i can ... but tks for all suggestions and help ...
 
moondance

moondance

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I love the parabolics they throw down so much light refective white is the shit dude, I will not change my veg setup ever again lol.
 
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