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Steve Man

Steve Man

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onechance1212 said:
O my system is hydro.
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If you are in hydro then 5.5! get to lowering and dont let it go above 6.1 6.2, it will float up over time and then just lower accordingly or until next feed. Is it rdwc or dwc? I like to make a batch of nutes to the side at the same ppm as the buckets i have them in and as they drink i fill them up with the side nutes. Keeps the ph pretty stable when it floats up into the 6 range and you have some space from where your plant is drinking you can just add the 5.5 nutes and bring them down
 
loftygoals

loftygoals

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You can't post random pics with minimal info and expect answers. Reading this thread 3 times is freaking infuriating.

You think it's heat stress? WHAT'S THE FREAKING TEMP?
You want to be sure it's not a nute problem? WHAT FREAKING NUTES ARE YOU FEEDING IT? AT WHAT STRENGTH? What's your water like?
You want to check if pH 5.8 is ok? You're running "hydro"? WHAT FREAKING HYDRO SYSTEM ARE YOU USING? NFT? DWC? Passive? WHAT?
Growing good yeah? HOW OLD ARE THEY? HOW LONG FLOWERING? I'm *guessing* 3-4 weeks. There is a significant deterioration in the past week's pics.

Reading it over I wonder if you have a combination of heat stress, nute burn, wind burn, calcium deficiency, overwatering symptoms/root rot... but WHO KNOWS?

This thread is over a week old and you've had no useful replies... because a useful reply would require mind reading. I'm going to bed before I kill myself. SMH
 
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JungleTime

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loftygoals said:
You can't post random pics with minimal info and expect answers. Reading this thread 3 times is freaking infuriating.

You think it's heat stress? WHAT'S THE FREAKING TEMP?
You want to be sure it's not a nute problem? WHAT FREAKING NUTES ARE YOU FEEDING IT? AT WHAT STRENGTH? What's your water like?
You want to check if pH 5.8 is ok? You're running "hydro"? WHAT FREAKING HYDRO SYSTEM ARE YOU USING? NFT? DWC? Passive? WHAT?
Growing good yeah? HOW OLD ARE THEY? HOW LONG FLOWERING? I'm *guessing* 3-4 weeks. There is a significant deterioration in the past week's pics.

Reading it over I wonder if you have a combination of heat stress, nute burn, wind burn, calcium deficiency, overwatering symptoms/root rot... but WHO KNOWS?

This thread is over a week old and you've had no useful replies... because a useful reply would require mind reading. I'm going to bed before I kill myself. SMH
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Yo thats what I was thinking lmfao. But apparently there "growing fine" and "she's pretty big" so apparently I dont know what im talking about. I'm just saying it looks to be ending the second week or starting the third like you said. And if thats the 2nd or 3rd week thats garbage. Not to be rude but just let this guy get a shitty .2 gpw of larf and then he'll start learning and listening.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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onechance1212 said:
Stunted? She's been growing fine. She's pretty big so Idk what u mean
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you have alot going on here and mag is definetly one of them and just adding more mag might not do jack shit untill we know what your running.

ironically, you have failed your user name.
If you were sent to the hospital from eating something poisonous, wouldn't you think your chances of survival would be much higher if the doctor knew what you ate?
 
Brandon Nebel

Brandon Nebel

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ive always wondered this too. i usually ph around 6.4 and most of the experts i defer to at my local grow shops recommend i start watering around 6.2 or 6.3, that .2 makes a huge difference in certain nutrient uptakes.
 
onechance1212

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Well I wasnt aware that these things y'all say matter actually did. You know when you go into auto zone and they ask what color your car is. That type of deal. 4 week in flower. Dwc and I'm using the pic for nutrients. Feedng nutes at 1 tablespoon per gallon as recommended on bottle. When i fill the system with fresh water i use half nutrients. the pH runs around 5.8 temp runs 82-84 during the day n 76 during the night. O yeah and the buckets they are in are orange. First grow so nobody ever told me lil things like this matter so my bad chill.
 

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SPLFreak808

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onechance1212 said:
Well I wasnt aware that these things y'all say matter actually did. You know when you go into auto zone and they ask what color your car is. That type of deal. 4 week in flower. Dwc and I'm using the pic for nutrients. Feedng nutes at 1 tablespoon per gallon as recommended on bottle. When i fill the system with fresh water i use half nutrients. the pH runs around 5.8 temp runs 82-84 during the day n 76 during the night. O yeah and the buckets they are in are orange. First grow so nobody ever told me lil things like this matter so my bad chill.
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You should mix that with grow or maybe just use grow by itself and bloom 2-3 times in flower. You should also be making sure ppm isn't rising.
 
dannyboy602

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The pH scale runs from 1 to 11, with lower numbers being acidic and higher numbers being alkaline. The cannabis plant prefers a pH environment of 5.5 to 6.5. When the pH environment rises in alkalinity above 7.5, the roots are not able to consume the available iron, copper, zinc, manganese, and boron ions in their vicinity, and when the pH lowers into acidity to less than 6 the roots are not able to access phosphoric acid, calcium, and magnesium because they lose their solubility.
 
onechance1212

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onechance1212

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dannyboy602 said:
The pH scale runs from 1 to 11, with lower numbers being acidic and higher numbers being alkaline. The cannabis plant prefers a pH environment of 5.5 to 6.5. When the pH environment rises in alkalinity above 7.5, the roots are not able to consume the available iron, copper, zinc, manganese, and boron ions in their vicinity, and when the pH lowers into acidity to less than 6 the roots are not able to access phosphoric acid, calcium, and magnesium because they lose their solubility.
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Thx. So would it be smart to let it bounce above 6 then lower. And if so how long should I keep it on each side of the scale. I'm assuming it takes the plant a lil to absorb the nutrients after getting to the correct ph
 
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JungleTime

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onechance1212 said:
Well I wasnt aware that these things y'all say matter actually did. You know when you go into auto zone and they ask what color your car is. That type of deal. 4 week in flower. Dwc and I'm using the pic for nutrients. Feedng nutes at 1 tablespoon per gallon as recommended on bottle. When i fill the system with fresh water i use half nutrients. the pH runs around 5.8 temp runs 82-84 during the day n 76 during the night. O yeah and the buckets they are in are orange. First grow so nobody ever told me lil things like this matter so my bad chill.
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I think you need to research a bit more.

You have a number of issues,
1. What nutes
2. What's the ppm
3. You need to cover the orange buckets up. Roots are sensitive to light. Won't really help now as there basically done growing roots at week 4. You want a strong foundation of roots before you flip.
4. Your temp is WAY too high. Optimal temp is 68 degrees for nute uptake. You probably already have root rot with temps upwards of 84 degrees.
5. Ima say your plant is burning up from too strong of a feed.
 
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JungleTime

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Veg nutes and flower nutes use totally different npk ratios. The product your feeding is ment to be used as a foliar spray rather than feeding through the roots lol. So like spraying the plant rather than dumping it into your buckets. That's high in nitrogen which you want to cut out when flowering
 
onechance1212

onechance1212

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JungleTime said:
Veg nutes and flower nutes use totally different npk ratios. The product your feeding is ment to be used as a foliar spray rather than feeding through the roots lol. So like spraying the plant rather than dumping it into your buckets. That's high in nitrogen which you want to cut out when flowering
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Like dam 68 how the fuck can you get it that low. I though 74-76 was idea temp. Thx about the information about the buckets had no clue I should cover them. So you speak about my nutrients being the wrong kind can you suggest some for me
 
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JungleTime

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onechance1212 said:
Like dam 68 how the fuck can you get it that low. I though 74-76 was idea temp. Thx about the information about the buckets had no clue I should cover them. So you speak about my nutrients being the wrong kind can you suggest some for me
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What most people use is jacks 321 which is basically the Lucas formula. Green genes has a video of it on youtube. It's jacks hydroponics which is 5-12-21 and cal nitrate 15.5-0.0. Cheapest nutes that gives quality results. Just youtube jacks hydroponics and you should find green genes. Watch a couple of his videos cause there's a fuck ton of information in them
 
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JungleTime

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And oh the temp issue, that's why most people don't do dwc. Air pumps generally heat the water and the only way to combat it is to lower your room temp or get a chiller. But chillers cost a shit.
 
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