Help diagnose leave plant problems

Man these 2 are getting worse by the minute. Part of the pots say it’s time to water and some parts do not. Kinda love and hate the fabric pots. Or maybe I have groups of roots ? I have a lot of roots top bottom middle they are everywhere lol
 

myke

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Man these 2 are getting worse by the minute. Part of the pots say it’s time to water and some parts do not. Kinda love and hate the fabric pots. Or maybe I have groups of roots ? I have a lot of roots top bottom middle they are everywhere lol
Well you have to try something, grow and learn.Im just mixing my soil for my first organic run.I suspect ill have problems too just gotta move forward.
 
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Pls help i dont know what is wrong with my plant the new leaf started to change its apperance during flowering in the 1st week what can i do????
What have you been feeding it ? What soil? Indoor/outdoor? Or any other details will help someone try to help you
 
Well you have to try something, grow and learn.Im just mixing my soil for my first organic run.I suspect ill have problems too just gotta move forward.
I started trying a flush Which is not really for organic type grow but just in case of some salts from anything or a build up or just dry pockets in my 35 bags I did. Did a light dressing and it did seem to help. Then they got light so I started trying foliars before I was to into flower so I didn’t have to water. Not sure it helped at all. Watered and now I’m where I am. Been trying epsom, fish, silica, aloe keeping it light in folair and just trying to nourish them through the stress and see if they Greened up. Seem to get worse so tried that morbloom fish mix on 1 yesterday. Either same or worse at this point. So maybe go other way and just water with molasses, silica, Epsom and maybe some aloe just to help them in this stressful time and maybe they find a balance ? Man it’s so hard lol
 
Well you have to try something, grow and learn.Im just mixing my soil for my first organic run.I suspect ill have problems too just gotta move forward.
Yeah I think the npk in the promix organic is what was keeping them balanced. The slow release stuff and when it ran out i was either behind or ahead and started problems. They say slow release is bad but I think it’s what helped me in the beginning. Who knows. Was some new organic granules stuff. Once I read about store nutes like mg I stopped using it but thinking it may have been helping me.
 

myke

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Yeah I think the npk in the promix organic is what was keeping them balanced. The slow release stuff and when it ran out i was either behind or ahead and started problems. They say slow release is bad but I think it’s what helped me in the beginning. Who knows. Was some new organic granules stuff. Once I read about store nutes like mg I stopped using it but thinking it may have been helping me.
I have tomato plant outdoor that started in pro mix compost perlte,it started to yellow.Im now treating like a coco plant.Feed every 2 days with bloom nutes and calmag to runoff.Looks awesome now.
edit,,,,About 600 ppm with my tap water,its at about 120ppm.
 
I have tomato plant outdoor that started in pro mix compost perlte,it started to yellow.Im now treating like a coco plant.Feed every 2 days with bloom nutes and calmag to runoff.Looks awesome now.
What nutes were you using for the tomato plant ? Regular tomato bloom stuff ? My tomato plant same thing almost same mix with some added granulars and it did same thing I just gave it 2 doses of fish Fert and some end of my teas diluted more and it has been very happy. I can get my normal plants to turn around much easier but I also don’t do fuck all compared to what’s in my cannabis plants lol I also use the morbloom for them but they were blooming like crazy just needed some N mostly. 5-1-1 and 0-10-10 for the basic garden is usually all that is needed aside from some good soil and some slow release organic nuts premixed. I don’t go crazy with the normal garden.
 

myke

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What nutes were you using for the tomato plant ? Regular tomato bloom stuff ? My tomato plant same thing almost same mix with some added granulars and it did same thing I just gave it 2 doses of fish Fert and some end of my teas diluted more and it has been very happy. I can get my normal plants to turn around much easier but I also don’t do fuck all compared to what’s in my cannabis plants lol
Same nutes i use for coco,mine are just cheap stuff from hydro store.U could try one ,what do u have or what can u get?
 

myke

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The key maybe is your balance is off.Bottle nutes at least have the right ratios.Im just suggesting a fix have no idea if it will work.If you have good aeration then it will flush out all what you have.But if you have a heavy soil ewc etc you may cause more problems as your pots may not dry out.
 
Same nutes i use for coco,mine are just cheap stuff from hydro store.U could try one ,what do u have or what can u get?
Well aside from regular stores I have a hydro store near me I use and I order off amazon if it comes to Ontario. Liquid wise I could use the fish. I know it works for some. But this choice this late in flower is a important one. Already locked out best to let it ride. Needs food and I can add late worse case flush hard before harvest. Or feed em and burn then more. I really don’t like these decisions. My brain works much more in a ocd kinda way and the guessing and waiting is hard
 
The key maybe is your balance is off.Bottle nutes at least have the right ratios.Im just suggesting a fix have no idea if it will work.If you have good aeration then it will flush out all what you have.But if you have a heavy soil ewc etc you may cause more problems as your pots may not dry out.
I appreciate all your help. Just working through it as many times as I can. ThaNk you very much for helping.
 
I really thought they were deficient if I went by pictures but online same one has pictures used for other deficiencies so really hard to tell. A lot have said burn. So it is what it is I guess. Lol. It is suppose to rain a little tomrorow so worse case I have a day or 2 to figure out my next move. They are still flat or praying so not asking for water yet
 
Did you cook your mix before planting?
Off the hop, being new, thinking i didn't need much, not researching enough but i did build some sort of shitty organic soil lol. the very first mix i made which did sit for only about 2 weeks. it was promix organic soil, perlite, vermiculite, de, epsom salt, that organic granular slow release feed, kelp meal, and i watered it in with some molasses water in 2 garbage cans and covered them. Trying to remember if i did anything else or not, in the beginning my notes were vague compared to now. I did not know where to go at first and it was during covid so was looking at garden centers and such, took me a but to find a local hydro store. thought was the soil and added stuff would get me through most of it and id pick up what i could find as i went. That is why the fish emulsion came up first cause i could get it easily. Now I have what i needed in the beginning or most of and have been playing catch up which may or may not led to over doing something.
Plants were also amazing through stress LST, HST, bending, twisting, topping they got hammered and just grew amazing and so green. it was july 16 when the first plant started to get upset and has effected 3 and now mainly 2. I have done to much micro managing so to speak i think and feeling behind when maybe i was ok but again i don't know. After going over my list and printing it out i feel like i was doing stuff here there and everywhere
 

myke

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Off the hop, being new, thinking i didnt need much, not researching enough but i did build some sort of shitty organic soil lol. the very first mix i made which did sit for only about 2 weeks. it was promix organic soil, perlite, vermiculite, de, epsom salt, that organic granular slow release feed, kelp meal, and i watered it in with some molasses water in 2 garbage cans and covered them. Trying to remember if i did anything else or not, in the beginning my notes were vague compared to now. I did not know where to go at first and it was during covid so was looking at garden centers and such, took me a but to find a local hydro store. thought was the soil and added stuff would get me through most of it and id pick up what i could find as i went. That is why the fish emulsion came up first cause i could get it easily. Now I have what i needed in the beginning or most of and have been playing catch up which may or may not led to over doing something
As im new to this organic thing.So your stuff didnt break down properly throwing the balance off.Teas are your best bet,which one? lol.From what ive read so far kelp is a quick way to feed,if thats your problem.
Let us know what happens as im 60 days yet away from starting good luck.
 
I will. Have used kelp in all my teas. Added a bit let it aerate and used as a spray as well. It did wonders. But not this time. Lol. I have some thinking to do. Might just go plain Jane I have a week at least before my last organic feeding and a week after at least to do anything that can be flushed as a last resort but rather keep it as org aid as possible. Will update
 
Well those 2 have never moved so fast down hill. And I’ve only added stuff this week so I’m letting them dry out untill tomrorow and watering only. The new growth is ok but after it’s not new growth it’s affected. It’s getting bad.
I had another 3 given to me to fix. Lol. 1 was my cousin one that was stunted and dying and 2 were literally dead sticks that were flowering in July cause of lack of light. I was able to revive and now all 3 are thriving why can’t I fix mine. Even one of the clones I took is thriving. Lol
 

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Well F$&! Me. Doing an inspection I found what I believe to be white powdery mould. Cut off the leaf and bud I found it near and got rid of it quick. Think I will have to give them a spray before or after the rain now. Ffs. The humidity here has been high lately and cold to hot bouncing weather. Not good. Found some on my yard and sprayed it all and removed what I could but it probly got air born. There more on a tree near me so I’ll have to get it too. Man not sure how this season will end but it sure has been a journey.
 

myke

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Well F$&! Me. Doing an inspection I found what I believe to be white powdery mould. Cut off the leaf and bud I found it near and got rid of it quick. Think I will have to give them a spray before or after the rain now. Ffs. The humidity here has been high lately and cold to hot bouncing weather. Not good. Found some on my yard and sprayed it all and removed what I could but it probly got air born. There more on a tree near me so I’ll have to get it too. Man not sure how this season will end but it sure has been a journey.
Ya I’ve learned my lesson with PM. I start spraying in May. After ea rain you have to spray as the fungi side washes off. It’s a fine powder if you disturb a plant with it your spreading it around. I have had success with a strong h202 solution if caught early enough. It will probably kill any leaves you spray though.it was 8-10 ml to one litre water 29%
 
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